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Okay so on Electronic Exspress they want $679.97 I can get the same Laptop at a Different Store for $450, but I wanna know if it's worth it?

I Need it for the following:

CAD
GFX
VFX
3D Modeling & Rendering
Game Design & Development
Dubstep/Music Production

And yes If I buy it, I'm going to eventually upgrade the RAM to atleast 8GB

But anyways here's the Specs from Electronic Exspress:



-Description of Acer AS57509851 / AS5750-9851:
The Acer Aspire AS5750 Notebook excels beyond your daily computing needs with excellent top end performance, the latest connectivity and impressive graphics. This stylish PC gets it all done with a powerful 2nd generation Intel CoreTM i7 Processor, while boundary-free wireless and web cam keep you in touch at all times. Enjoy rich HD entertainment at home or on the road on the gorgeous 15.6" widescreen LCD display with Intel HD 3000 graphics. Throw in cool convenience features and you have everything you need within reach to power through daily tasks and enjoy your media wherever you are.

Intel CoreTM i7-2630QM Processor 2.0GHz with Turbo Boost Technology up to 2.9GHz
Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit
Microsoft Office Starter 2010
15.6" HD Widescreen CineCrystalTM LED-backlit Display
Mobile Intel HM65 Express Chipset
4096MB DDR3 Dual-Channel 1066MHz Memory
Intel HD Graphics 3000
640GB 5400RPM SATA Hard Drive
8X DVD-Super Multi Double-Layer Drive
1.3 Megapixel HD Webcam
Multi-in-1 Digital Media Card Reader
802.11b/g/n Wi-Fi CERTIFIEDTM
10/100/1000 Gigabit Ethernet LAN
Dolby Advanced Audio v2 audio enhancement
High Definition Audio Support
3 - USB 2.0 Ports
1 - HDMITM Port with HDCP Support
Multi-Gesture Touchpad
Dedicated Numeric Keypad
Media Control Function Keys
6-cell Li-ion Battery (4400 mAh)
5.74 lbs. | 2.6 kg. (system unit only)

Here is the List that was under the Features Tab:

-Acer AS57509851 :: Features
Operating System Windows 7
LCD Display (In.) 15.6"
Processor Intel Core i7-2630QM
Processor Speed (GHz) 2.0GHz
Cache Memory 6 MB L3
RAM Memory 4 GB
Hard Drive Capacity 640 GB
Optical Storage 8X DVD-Super Multi Double-Layer Drive
Graphics Controller Intel HD Graphics 3000
Video Memory 128 MB
Battery 6-Cell
Battery Life Up to 4.5-hours
Aspect Ratio 16:9 Aspect Ratio
Maximum Resolution 1366 x 768
Web Cam 1.3 Megapixel HD Webcam
Wireless 802.11 b/g/n
USB Interface USB 2.0
USB Ports 3
LAN Ports 10/100/1000
Video Ports VGA/HDMI
Memory Card 2-in-1 Digital


So... Is it worth it?
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That's kind of crap, but I wont stop you from buying it. Do whatever you want man.
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yeah. you could guaranteed build a better PC online for cheaper.

i would decline that offer
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Strafing wrote That's kind of crap, but I wont stop you from buying it. Do whatever you want man.


I Only need it for School, I already have two custom Desktops w/ i7 Extreme and i7, 30GB Ram & 18GB Ram on the other.

I Dont need a Gaming Pc, read what I Said I needed it for
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not the best but it would get the job done
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Any 3D modelling will require 8GB RAM to run smoothly. I'd recommend either making a desktop or just buying supported ram for your model
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My opinion is if your getting a Laptop to make GFX and design games, DONT. Look online for a Desktop pc sure it will be that little bit more expensive but it will last for longer and get the job done fasted.
If you do take my advice into consideration only go with a Exterem proccessor and 4+Core.
Thats my advice Take it or leave it.
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LMAO.
You have a desktop with 30GB and 18GB Ram ? I'm inclined not to believe that at all.

Anyways, for what you claim to need to do, a laptop won't do a thing for you. Wheres your head at?

If you have (which I doubt 100%) two computers already with an extreme edition and a normal i7, you shouldn't need another computer for all that fancy stuff.
You're full of it dude, if I could...
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i would suggest alienware its good for gaming and its fast for everything else
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iwatchelmo wrote i would suggest alienware its good for gaming and its fast for everything else


..No, simply no.

There are a whole list of reasons to not go with an Alienware computer or an Apple product as a whole. One of the only "advantages" they have and why they are so popular is due to their aesthetics and marketing. Dell and Apple are huge players and companies and have the budget to pump out ads and commericals all over the place and persuade people to go with their product. But there are a lot of things the consumer does not know and is very crucial. From my point of view, I think Alienware computers look like something that came out of a Toys-r-us store, but Apple on the other hand and their computers do look elegant (not talking about build quality, pure looks from above) - and that's one of the main reasons they can charge $1,000's of dollars and have them fly off shelves. Now, to the consumer they think this is a beast of a machine, particularly for editing for some reason, which is completely false. But from a computer enthusiasts point of view, this is a really bad investment. Dell and Apple have a long reputation of stuffing last generation, outdated, underpowerd hardware into a nice looking shell (to some) and charge more for it compared to a better specd custom build for example with better and more reliable parts. But some people don't want to spend an hour and learn how to build a PC and they see these ignorant fellos on Youtube for example who don't know a clue about what they are talking about thinking and blabbering on how this is such a good machine and saying it's really good for your budget, when it's not, AT ALL.

Alienware/pre-built computers from major players (HP, Acer, Gateway (owned by HP), and Lenovo) - there are many more, those are the ones that I can think of on the top of my head.Their PSUs... My God... I could write a 50 page report on these companies are POS and don't care about the consumer and have no quality control, but I'll make it short. They spend as little as they can on this part (which is essentially the heart of your system and if it dies, it can bring your other expensive components down with it). The end result of this catastrophe is a really sub-par 300-350w PSU that can barely pull the system it's running. They have horrible efficiencies, ripple regulation and rails. There is one major review on Anandtech actually reviewing a similar PSU and they basically just say it delivers half of the advertised wattage, gets very loud, and does not hit bronze efficiency for example (worse for hydro bill). I can't stress that skimping out on the PSU is the BIGGEST mistake you could possibly do. It will also hender and set road blocks for upgrading your components. (I.E - I want to upgrade my video card, oh wait, I have a POS PSU that can actually explode and kill parts if stressed enough).

Now their motherboard, same thing as the PSU - they put the absolute cheapest stuff they can find. I could only assume they are really fragile and flimsy. I know for a fact that HP makes their own MOBO's and imported Foxconn boards a while ago. It's basically what you see is what you get. No overclocking friendly features such as a beefy power phase with attractive heatsinks, no support for multiple video cards, lack of SATA connectors so there is HDD/SSD limitations and they are usually green boards that are down right ugly. Their I/O panels aren't very eye opening either.

AMD/Intel CPUs are all the same around the block - I.E a 2500k in a HP desktop will be the same as a 2500k in custom build - the same usually goes for RAM. Only advantage of selecting your own RAM is the selection of different speeds, timings, latencies, colors, and heatsinks even though they do nothing.

Their cases are usually glossy plastic with 1 weak 120mm at the back side of the case that are usually dead silent for a reason; they do nothing. The cases are usually very small and compact, but the downside to this is no features, as usuall, this is a common trend amung pre-configured and built PC's. No toollees for upgrading, only fit M-ATX form factor, fit only low profile video cards and have no room for ventilation, and no cable management system so you end up with a bunch of non sleeved yellow power cabled in the middle of the case being held up by one zip tie (very generous, I know).

And after they install this, they charge double and advertise it to customers who don't know a lot about computer hardware and say this is some ''BF3 beast'' when in the real world, a 5670 isn't even going to boot up BF3.

If you're still "scared" of building it yourself, there are still many options out there, one of them being NCIX and their PC building service - YOU select the parts (they obviously have to be compatible with each other) and they will charge $50 to build it for YOU from the ground up (cable management and temperature testing included). CyberpowerPC is the second option, but they are limited and more pricey.

In my opinon, a Fractal R3 or Bitfenix Shinobi looks far greater than some multi-colored Alienware junk.

YOU ARE PAYING FOR THE NAME AND SOME LEDS! THAT IS ALL! They price it at such a high point because they know ignorant, usually pre-pubescent children will ask their parents to buy it and they know it sells.
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