I believe its going to happen, and history will repeat its self. Remember WWII? Nazi Germany going in to Australia? Nazi Germany wanted everyone in Australia to register there guns. Soon after the government said "Oh, well we think it would be just better if everyone handed in there guns" soon freedom of speech was taken away, and alot more. From 1938-1943 Hitler was making Australia a Dictator country. No one ever new until it was already done.

We as a nation need to stand up, while we can. Take back what was lost, and become the Freedom Country again.

This is exactly what will happen to US (other then another government moving, etc. I also know theres alot of 12 year olds on here who dont like to read long things, but honestly read it, you will learn alot!):

Heil wrote I believe its going to happen, and history will repeat its self. Remember WWII? Nazi Germany going in to Australia? Nazi Germany wanted everyone in Australia to register there guns. Soon after the government said "Oh, well we think it would be just better if everyone handed in there guns" soon freedom of speech was taken away, and alot more. From 1938-1943 Hitler was making Australia a Dictator country. No one ever new until it was already done.

We as a nation need to stand up, while we can. Take back what was lost, and become the Freedom Country again.

This is exactly what will happen to US (other then another government moving, etc. I also know theres alot of 12 year olds on here who dont like to read long things, but honestly read it, you will learn alot!):

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I am a witness to history.

I cannot tell you that Hitler took Austria by tanks and guns; it would distort history.

If you remember the plot of the Sound of Music, the Von Trapp family escaped over the Alps rather than submit to the Nazis. Kitty wasnt so lucky. Her family chose to stay in her native Austria. She was 10 years old, but bright and aware. And she was watching.

We elected him by a landslide 98 percent of the vote, she recalls.

She wasnt old enough to vote in 1938 approaching her 11th birthday. But she remembers.

Everyone thinks that Hitler just rolled in with his tanks and took Austria by force.

No so.

Hitler is welcomed to Austria

In 1938, Austria was in deep Depression. Nearly one-third of our workforce was unemployed. We had 25 percent inflation and 25 percent bank loan interest rates.

Farmers and business people were declaring bankruptcy daily. Young people were going from house to house begging for food. Not that they didnt want to work; there simply werent any jobs.

My mother was a Christian woman and believed in helping people in need. Every day we cooked a big kettle of soup and baked bread to feed those poor, hungry people about 30 daily.

We looked to our neighbor on the north, Germany, where Hitler had been in power since 1933. she recalls. We had been told that they didnt have unemployment or crime, and they had a high standard of living.

Nothing was ever said about persecution of any group Jewish or otherwise. We were led to believe that everyone in Germany was happy. We wanted the same way of life in Austria. We were promised that a vote for Hitler would mean the end of unemployment and help for the family. Hitler also said that businesses would be assisted, and farmers would get their farms back.

Ninety-eight percent of the population voted to annex Austria to Germany and have Hitler for our ruler.

We were overjoyed, remembers Kitty, and for three days we danced in the streets and had candlelight parades. The new government opened up big field kitchens and
everyone was fed.

After the election, German officials were appointed, and, like a miracle, we suddenly had law and order. Three or four weeks later, everyone was employed. The government made sure that a lot of work was created through the Public Work Service.

Hitler decided we should have equal rights for women. Before this, it was a custom that married Austrian women did not work outside the home. An able-bodied husband would be looked down on if he couldnt support his family. Many women in the teaching profession were elated that they could retain the jobs they previously had been re- quired to give up for marriage.

Then we lost religious education for kids

Our education was nationalized. I attended a very good public school.. The population was predominantly Catholic, so we had religion in our schools. The day we elected Hitler (March 13, 1938), I walked into my schoolroom to find the crucifix replaced by Hitlers picture hanging next to a Nazi flag. Our teacher, a very devout woman, stood up and told the class we wouldnt pray or have religion anymore. Instead, we sang Deutschland, Deutschland, Uber Alles, and had physical education.

Sunday became National Youth Day with compulsory attendance. Parents were not pleased about the sudden change in curriculum. They were told that if they did not send us, they would receive a stiff letter of warning the first time. The second time they would be fined the equivalent of $300, and the third time they would be subject to jail.

And then things got worse.

The first two hours consisted of political indoctrination. The rest of the day we had sports. As time went along, we loved it. Oh, we had so much fun and got our sports equipment free.

We would go home and gleefully tell our parents about the wonderful time we had.

My mother was very unhappy, remembers Kitty. When the next term started, she took me out of public school and put me in a convent. I told her she couldnt do that and she told me that someday when I grew up, I would be grateful. There was a very good curriculum, but hardly any fun no sports, and no political indoctrination.

I hated it at first but felt I could tolerate it. Every once in a while, on holidays, I went home. I would go back to my old friends and ask what was going on and what they were doing.

Their loose lifestyle was very alarming to me. They lived without religion. By that time, unwed mothers were glorified for having a baby for Hitler.

It seemed strange to me that our society changed so suddenly. As time went along, I realized what a great deed my mother did so that I wasnt exposed to that kind of humanistic philosophy.

In 1939, the war started, and a food bank was established. All food was rationed and could only be purchased using food stamps. At the same time, a full-employment law was passed which meant if you didnt work, you didnt get a ration card, and, if you didnt have a card, you starved to death.

Women who stayed home to raise their families didnt have any marketable skills and often had to take jobs more suited for men.

Soon after this, the draft was implemented.

It was compulsory for young people, male and female, to give one year to the labor corps, remembers Kitty. During the day, the girls worked on the farms, and at night they returned to their barracks for military training just like the boys.

They were trained to be anti-aircraft gunners and participated in the signal corps. After the labor corps, they were not discharged but were used in the front lines.

When I go back to Austria to visit my family and friends, most of these women are emotional cripples because they just were not equipped to handle the horrors of combat.

Three months before I turned 18, I was severely injured in an air raid attack. I nearly had a leg amputated, so I was spared having to go into the labor corps and into military service.

When the mothers had to go out into the work force, the government immediately established child care centers.

You could take your children ages four weeks old to school age and leave them there around-the-clock, seven days a week, under the total care of the government.

The state raised a whole generation of children. There were no motherly women to take care of the children, just people highly trained in child psychology. By this time, no one talked about equal rights. We knew we had been had.

Before Hitler, we had very good medical care. Many American doctors trained at the University of Vienna..

After Hitler, health care was socialized, free for everyone. Doctors were salaried by the government. The problem was, since it was free, the people were going to the doctors for everything.

When the good doctor arrived at his office at 8 a.m., 40 people were already waiting and, at the same time, the hospitals were full.

If you needed elective surgery, you had to wait a year or two for your turn. There was no money for research as it was poured into socialized medicine. Research at the medical schools literally stopped, so the best doctors left Austria and emigrated to other countries.

As for healthcare, our tax rates went up to 80 percent of our income. Newlyweds immediately received a $1,000 loan from the government to establish a household. We had big programs for families.

All day care and education were free. High schools were taken over by the government and college tuition was subsidized. Everyone was entitled to free handouts, such as food stamps, clothing, and housing.

We had another agency designed to monitor business. My brother-in-law owned a restaurant that had square tables.

Government officials told him he had to replace them with round tables because people might bump themselves on the corners. Then they said he had to have additional bathroom facilities. It was just a small dairy business with a snack bar. He couldnt meet all the demands.

Soon, he went out of business. If the government owned the large businesses and not many small ones existed, it could be in control.

We had consumer protection, too

We were told how to shop and what to buy. Free enterprise was essentially abolished. We had a planning agency specially designed for farmers. The agents would go to the farms, count the livestock, and then tell the farmers what to produce, and how to produce it.

In 1944, I was a student teacher in a small village in the Alps. The villagers were surrounded by mountain passes which, in the winter, were closed off with snow, causing people to be isolated.

So people intermarried and offspring were sometimes retarded. When I arrived, I was told there were 15 mentally retarded adults, but they were all useful and did good manual work.

I knew one, named Vincent, very well. He was a janitor of the school. One day I looked out the window and saw Vincent and others getting into a van.

I asked my superior where they were going. She said to an institution where the State Health Department would teach them a trade, and to read and write. The families were required to sign papers with a little clause that they could not visit for 6 months.

They were told visits would interfere with the program and might cause homesickness.

As time passed, letters started to dribble back saying these people died a natural, merciful death. The villagers were not fooled. We suspected what was happening. Those people left in excellent physical health and all died within 6 months. We called this euthanasia.

Next came gun registration. People were getting injured by guns. Hitler said that the real way to catch criminals (we still had a few) was by matching serial numbers on guns. Most citizens were law-abiding and dutifully marched to the police station to register their firearms. Not long afterwards, the police said that it was best for everyone to turn in their guns. The authorities already knew who had them, so it was futile not to comply voluntarily.

No more freedom of speech. Anyone who said something against the government was taken away. We knew many people who were arrested, not only Jews, but also priests and ministers who spoke up.

Totalitarianism didnt come quickly, it took 5 years from 1938 until 1943, to realize full dictatorship in Austria. Had it happened overnight, my countrymen would have fought to the last breath. Instead, we had creeping gradualism. Now, our only weapons were broom handles. The whole idea sounds almost unbelievable that the state, little by little eroded our freedom.

This is my eyewitness account.

Its true. Those of us who sailed past the Statue of Liberty came to a country of unbelievable freedom and opportunity.

America is truly is the greatest country in the world. Dont let freedom slip away.

After America, there is no place to go.

Kitty Werthmann

What exactly have we loss though? We still have all of out rights and we are giving minorities the same rights as well. Our president is far from being a dictator, you can see that for yourself.

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shadow1 wrote

Yin wrote

shadow1 wrote

Voglia wrote

Yang wrote

Voglia wrote Maybe banning a certain gun type, isn't the way to go? What if they made it harder to acquire such weaponry. Not everyone is going to need a use for an Assault Rifle. The excuse of using it for protection, shouldn't be in place. A 9mm is just as useful if not more than an assault rifle, due to the mobility and compact size.

Heres a scenario for you:

What if blackouts or a riot breaks out? In the LA Riots,several people used AR 15 assault rifles to defend themselves.If they of had a 9mm pistol it wouldn't be the same gunfight.

Better to be safe than sorry...

You are correct, it is better to be safe than sorry in case something of that nature breaks out. But if it had to be done, which one would you choose. Make owning an Assault Rifle illegal or having better check-ups before proceeding with the selling of an assault rifle?

Its hard to think of what this country has come to, having restrictions put on, that tears us farther away from that Second Amendment that we have been given at birth. I can't see as to why all of America has to suffer for someone elses demented decision? It's upsetting to think that a Gun ban is brought up after every publicized shooting. People are killed from gang fights pretty much daily, we don't hear of them, or have a big commotion about gun bans. They just move right along with that guys burial, and pretend it never happend.

Yes, its sad to think that a man would have the drive to kill so many kids under 10 years of age. But don't we need weapons to protect us from people like this? Shouldn't schools make it so they have better security? Theres so many factors that can play into this, instead of jumping to the conclusion and heading straight for Gun Bans.

But still why do we need guns? We do not need them. Mostly everybody who owns one is mentally incapable to own one and still begging to keep guns are just going to cause more deaths. We are the only country in the world to have the most amount of deaths per year by guns, both by police and individuals. If we live in a country controlled by guns, then we will be seeing the bottom in no time.

I told you why, to protect ourselves from a tyrannical government. Germany took their guns and look what happened. The people didn't have guns and they couldn't stop it. Guns actually save people too. Take guns away, you leave those that could have been protected vulnerable. This is mainly revolving around the fact that our founding fathers must have seen the future, because if our guns get taken away, government will run rampant. Government will not longer fear the people. A government that fears the people is freedom. People that fear the government is tyranny. This isn't about your everyday shootings and/or self defence. It's much bigger. This is making sure we still have our freedom and our control over the country.

Ok ok, im going to let you say that, but im going to ask, if we did have such a tyrannical government that wishes to destroy us, that what can a measly assault rifle do to a stealth bomber?

A stealth bomber isn't going to level the population of the citizens. It's going to take more than that to dwindle the population. Unless they pull out something from Area 51 or something, our numbers should be able to take them. Their vehicles would be a problem, no doubt, but not impossible to get by. I'm sure a black market or rouge soldiers can get a couple as well. If countries dislike America like they say they do, they could help us as well if things go down. I really, REALLY hate to be this conspiracy theorist, but things just aren't adding up to me. I apologize if I seem insane, but I am just concerned by what I am seeing and what I know could potentially happen. I personally can't stop it even if it went down, so I guess I should really stop worrying. It's going to happen with or without me if it does happen at all.

But what reason is there to worry or fear. There is no reason at all to fear anything in this universe as it will lead to anger which will lead to hate which will lead to the destruction of ones self. In this conspiracy were discussing, either way, with or without guns, the so called tyrannical government can still do anything they want to us if they find us as a threat. They will send a fire squad into your house with armour that can deflect bullets and cannot be pierced by any type of blade. Yes, they can and will send a stealth bomber that will go over your house if you threaten them. Your buffer time gets shorter by the day, so your dreams and fears will come true if you constantly live your life in them.

Lol, to be honest I have asked myself the same thing. I just feel the need to speak about this. I can't seem to keep my nose out of it. I've really tried, lol. I know what they have and it bothers me more than I lead on actually. I have actually said that what they are doing could actually be for our overall benefit as well. For us to succeed as a species, we most likely either need one or two world governments and one or two currency systems. As a species, the NWO that everyone fears would need to happen. It would be the step right before we find away to get off of this planet before the end. I feel this needs to happen, but doesn't mean I like it. There really is no reason to fear, but just worried if this causes some type of civil war or a civil uprising. These are all personal opinions and have no real reason to believe it, just feels right to me.

it wont matter we have mexico so close to us which has lot's of gun so criminal will allway's get gun's banned or not so the government banning gun's will leave us defenseless.It's not like the UK or Australia. also it wont matter if they ban assault weapons because they will be sold online used and at gun show used.

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Heil wrote I believe its going to happen, and history will repeat its self. Remember WWII? Nazi Germany going in to Australia? Nazi Germany wanted everyone in Australia to register there guns. Soon after the government said "Oh, well we think it would be just better if everyone handed in there guns" soon freedom of speech was taken away, and alot more. From 1938-1943 Hitler was making Australia a Dictator country. No one ever new until it was already done.

We as a nation need to stand up, while we can. Take back what was lost, and become the Freedom Country again.

This is exactly what will happen to US (other then another government moving, etc. I also know theres alot of 12 year olds on here who dont like to read long things, but honestly read it, you will learn alot!):

Click to View Content

I am a witness to history.

I cannot tell you that Hitler took Austria by tanks and guns; it would distort history.

If you remember the plot of the Sound of Music, the Von Trapp family escaped over the Alps rather than submit to the Nazis. Kitty wasnt so lucky. Her family chose to stay in her native Austria. She was 10 years old, but bright and aware. And she was watching.

We elected him by a landslide 98 percent of the vote, she recalls.

She wasnt old enough to vote in 1938 approaching her 11th birthday. But she remembers.

Everyone thinks that Hitler just rolled in with his tanks and took Austria by force.

No so.

Hitler is welcomed to Austria

In 1938, Austria was in deep Depression. Nearly one-third of our workforce was unemployed. We had 25 percent inflation and 25 percent bank loan interest rates.

Farmers and business people were declaring bankruptcy daily. Young people were going from house to house begging for food. Not that they didnt want to work; there simply werent any jobs.

My mother was a Christian woman and believed in helping people in need. Every day we cooked a big kettle of soup and baked bread to feed those poor, hungry people about 30 daily.

We looked to our neighbor on the north, Germany, where Hitler had been in power since 1933. she recalls. We had been told that they didnt have unemployment or crime, and they had a high standard of living.

Nothing was ever said about persecution of any group Jewish or otherwise. We were led to believe that everyone in Germany was happy. We wanted the same way of life in Austria. We were promised that a vote for Hitler would mean the end of unemployment and help for the family. Hitler also said that businesses would be assisted, and farmers would get their farms back.

Ninety-eight percent of the population voted to annex Austria to Germany and have Hitler for our ruler.

We were overjoyed, remembers Kitty, and for three days we danced in the streets and had candlelight parades. The new government opened up big field kitchens and
everyone was fed.

After the election, German officials were appointed, and, like a miracle, we suddenly had law and order. Three or four weeks later, everyone was employed. The government made sure that a lot of work was created through the Public Work Service.

Hitler decided we should have equal rights for women. Before this, it was a custom that married Austrian women did not work outside the home. An able-bodied husband would be looked down on if he couldnt support his family. Many women in the teaching profession were elated that they could retain the jobs they previously had been re- quired to give up for marriage.

Then we lost religious education for kids

Our education was nationalized. I attended a very good public school.. The population was predominantly Catholic, so we had religion in our schools. The day we elected Hitler (March 13, 1938), I walked into my schoolroom to find the crucifix replaced by Hitlers picture hanging next to a Nazi flag. Our teacher, a very devout woman, stood up and told the class we wouldnt pray or have religion anymore. Instead, we sang Deutschland, Deutschland, Uber Alles, and had physical education.

Sunday became National Youth Day with compulsory attendance. Parents were not pleased about the sudden change in curriculum. They were told that if they did not send us, they would receive a stiff letter of warning the first time. The second time they would be fined the equivalent of $300, and the third time they would be subject to jail.

And then things got worse.

The first two hours consisted of political indoctrination. The rest of the day we had sports. As time went along, we loved it. Oh, we had so much fun and got our sports equipment free.

We would go home and gleefully tell our parents about the wonderful time we had.

My mother was very unhappy, remembers Kitty. When the next term started, she took me out of public school and put me in a convent. I told her she couldnt do that and she told me that someday when I grew up, I would be grateful. There was a very good curriculum, but hardly any fun no sports, and no political indoctrination.

I hated it at first but felt I could tolerate it. Every once in a while, on holidays, I went home. I would go back to my old friends and ask what was going on and what they were doing.

Their loose lifestyle was very alarming to me. They lived without religion. By that time, unwed mothers were glorified for having a baby for Hitler.

It seemed strange to me that our society changed so suddenly. As time went along, I realized what a great deed my mother did so that I wasnt exposed to that kind of humanistic philosophy.

In 1939, the war started, and a food bank was established. All food was rationed and could only be purchased using food stamps. At the same time, a full-employment law was passed which meant if you didnt work, you didnt get a ration card, and, if you didnt have a card, you starved to death.

Women who stayed home to raise their families didnt have any marketable skills and often had to take jobs more suited for men.

Soon after this, the draft was implemented.

It was compulsory for young people, male and female, to give one year to the labor corps, remembers Kitty. During the day, the girls worked on the farms, and at night they returned to their barracks for military training just like the boys.

They were trained to be anti-aircraft gunners and participated in the signal corps. After the labor corps, they were not discharged but were used in the front lines.

When I go back to Austria to visit my family and friends, most of these women are emotional cripples because they just were not equipped to handle the horrors of combat.

Three months before I turned 18, I was severely injured in an air raid attack. I nearly had a leg amputated, so I was spared having to go into the labor corps and into military service.

When the mothers had to go out into the work force, the government immediately established child care centers.

You could take your children ages four weeks old to school age and leave them there around-the-clock, seven days a week, under the total care of the government.

The state raised a whole generation of children. There were no motherly women to take care of the children, just people highly trained in child psychology. By this time, no one talked about equal rights. We knew we had been had.

Before Hitler, we had very good medical care. Many American doctors trained at the University of Vienna..

After Hitler, health care was socialized, free for everyone. Doctors were salaried by the government. The problem was, since it was free, the people were going to the doctors for everything.

When the good doctor arrived at his office at 8 a.m., 40 people were already waiting and, at the same time, the hospitals were full.

If you needed elective surgery, you had to wait a year or two for your turn. There was no money for research as it was poured into socialized medicine. Research at the medical schools literally stopped, so the best doctors left Austria and emigrated to other countries.

As for healthcare, our tax rates went up to 80 percent of our income. Newlyweds immediately received a $1,000 loan from the government to establish a household. We had big programs for families.

All day care and education were free. High schools were taken over by the government and college tuition was subsidized. Everyone was entitled to free handouts, such as food stamps, clothing, and housing.

We had another agency designed to monitor business. My brother-in-law owned a restaurant that had square tables.

Government officials told him he had to replace them with round tables because people might bump themselves on the corners. Then they said he had to have additional bathroom facilities. It was just a small dairy business with a snack bar. He couldnt meet all the demands.

Soon, he went out of business. If the government owned the large businesses and not many small ones existed, it could be in control.

We had consumer protection, too

We were told how to shop and what to buy. Free enterprise was essentially abolished. We had a planning agency specially designed for farmers. The agents would go to the farms, count the livestock, and then tell the farmers what to produce, and how to produce it.

In 1944, I was a student teacher in a small village in the Alps. The villagers were surrounded by mountain passes which, in the winter, were closed off with snow, causing people to be isolated.

So people intermarried and offspring were sometimes retarded. When I arrived, I was told there were 15 mentally retarded adults, but they were all useful and did good manual work.

I knew one, named Vincent, very well. He was a janitor of the school. One day I looked out the window and saw Vincent and others getting into a van.

I asked my superior where they were going. She said to an institution where the State Health Department would teach them a trade, and to read and write. The families were required to sign papers with a little clause that they could not visit for 6 months.

They were told visits would interfere with the program and might cause homesickness.

As time passed, letters started to dribble back saying these people died a natural, merciful death. The villagers were not fooled. We suspected what was happening. Those people left in excellent physical health and all died within 6 months. We called this euthanasia.

Next came gun registration. People were getting injured by guns. Hitler said that the real way to catch criminals (we still had a few) was by matching serial numbers on guns. Most citizens were law-abiding and dutifully marched to the police station to register their firearms. Not long afterwards, the police said that it was best for everyone to turn in their guns. The authorities already knew who had them, so it was futile not to comply voluntarily.

No more freedom of speech. Anyone who said something against the government was taken away. We knew many people who were arrested, not only Jews, but also priests and ministers who spoke up.

Totalitarianism didnt come quickly, it took 5 years from 1938 until 1943, to realize full dictatorship in Austria. Had it happened overnight, my countrymen would have fought to the last breath. Instead, we had creeping gradualism. Now, our only weapons were broom handles. The whole idea sounds almost unbelievable that the state, little by little eroded our freedom.

This is my eyewitness account.

Its true. Those of us who sailed past the Statue of Liberty came to a country of unbelievable freedom and opportunity.

America is truly is the greatest country in the world. Dont let freedom slip away.

After America, there is no place to go.

Kitty Werthmann

What exactly have we loss though? We still have all of out rights and we are giving minorities the same rights as well. Our president is far from being a dictator, you can see that for yourself.

True. But if you read the bio of WW2 from Kitty Werthmann, you notice things seem allot like the US. As I stated above, the dates ranged from 1938-1943. When Nazi Germany came into power, and Australia decided to let Germany take over, they though it was going to be awesome, and they where going to grow once again. But little by little, Hitler started taking crucial things away. No one had ever took notice, or even bothered to care. I feel in a few years that's exactly what will happen with the US. We are too fed up with the News, and TV, and political bullshit to really see whats going on. We are literally drowning ourself.

Like I said, we need to stand up, BEFORE things start to change.

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shadow1 wrote

Yin wrote

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Voglia wrote Maybe banning a certain gun type, isn't the way to go? What if they made it harder to acquire such weaponry. Not everyone is going to need a use for an Assault Rifle. The excuse of using it for protection, shouldn't be in place. A 9mm is just as useful if not more than an assault rifle, due to the mobility and compact size.

Heres a scenario for you:

What if blackouts or a riot breaks out? In the LA Riots,several people used AR 15 assault rifles to defend themselves.If they of had a 9mm pistol it wouldn't be the same gunfight.

Better to be safe than sorry...

You are correct, it is better to be safe than sorry in case something of that nature breaks out. But if it had to be done, which one would you choose. Make owning an Assault Rifle illegal or having better check-ups before proceeding with the selling of an assault rifle?

Its hard to think of what this country has come to, having restrictions put on, that tears us farther away from that Second Amendment that we have been given at birth. I can't see as to why all of America has to suffer for someone elses demented decision? It's upsetting to think that a Gun ban is brought up after every publicized shooting. People are killed from gang fights pretty much daily, we don't hear of them, or have a big commotion about gun bans. They just move right along with that guys burial, and pretend it never happend.

Yes, its sad to think that a man would have the drive to kill so many kids under 10 years of age. But don't we need weapons to protect us from people like this? Shouldn't schools make it so they have better security? Theres so many factors that can play into this, instead of jumping to the conclusion and heading straight for Gun Bans.

But still why do we need guns? We do not need them. Mostly everybody who owns one is mentally incapable to own one and still begging to keep guns are just going to cause more deaths. We are the only country in the world to have the most amount of deaths per year by guns, both by police and individuals. If we live in a country controlled by guns, then we will be seeing the bottom in no time.

I told you why, to protect ourselves from a tyrannical government. Germany took their guns and look what happened. The people didn't have guns and they couldn't stop it. Guns actually save people too. Take guns away, you leave those that could have been protected vulnerable. This is mainly revolving around the fact that our founding fathers must have seen the future, because if our guns get taken away, government will run rampant. Government will not longer fear the people. A government that fears the people is freedom. People that fear the government is tyranny. This isn't about your everyday shootings and/or self defence. It's much bigger. This is making sure we still have our freedom and our control over the country.

Ok ok, im going to let you say that, but im going to ask, if we did have such a tyrannical government that wishes to destroy us, that what can a measly assault rifle do to a stealth bomber?

A stealth bomber isn't going to level the population of the citizens. It's going to take more than that to dwindle the population. Unless they pull out something from Area 51 or something, our numbers should be able to take them. Their vehicles would be a problem, no doubt, but not impossible to get by. I'm sure a black market or rouge soldiers can get a couple as well. If countries dislike America like they say they do, they could help us as well if things go down. I really, REALLY hate to be this conspiracy theorist, but things just aren't adding up to me. I apologize if I seem insane, but I am just concerned by what I am seeing and what I know could potentially happen. I personally can't stop it even if it went down, so I guess I should really stop worrying. It's going to happen with or without me if it does happen at all.

But what reason is there to worry or fear. There is no reason at all to fear anything in this universe as it will lead to anger which will lead to hate which will lead to the destruction of ones self. In this conspiracy were discussing, either way, with or without guns, the so called tyrannical government can still do anything they want to us if they find us as a threat. They will send a fire squad into your house with armour that can deflect bullets and cannot be pierced by any type of blade. Yes, they can and will send a stealth bomber that will go over your house if you threaten them. Your buffer time gets shorter by the day, so your dreams and fears will come true if you constantly live your life in them.

Lol, to be honest I have asked myself the same thing. I just feel the need to speak about this. I can't seem to keep my nose out of it. I've really tried, lol. I know what they have and it bothers me more than I lead on actually. I have actually said that what they are doing could actually be for our overall benefit as well. For us to succeed as a species, we most likely either need one or two world governments and one or two currency systems. As a species, the NWO that everyone fears would need to happen. It would be the step right before we find away to get off of this planet before the end. I feel this needs to happen, but doesn't mean I like it. There really is no reason to fear, but just worried if this causes some type of civil war or a civil uprising. These are all personal opinions and have no real reason to believe it, just feels right to me.

The NWO actually does seem interesting and is the only evidence this country has and im guessing it goes towards freemasonry, so i do actually support the NWO. What is the greatest illusion that blinds us all? I will give you a hint, There's separate countries but one world we all live on. Give up? We are all the same species and different governments has caused quarrels between each race. If we were all just once race under one government, that we will never be blinded by that again.

if they ban guns their will be such a high demand for them criminals will just smuggle them in then sell them for a high profit

Banning things in America or any world super power never goes well. Cocaine is illegal yet I can drive a few blocks and get as much as I want. Same will be true for guns.

Now would you rather licensed gun shops that do background checks and register the weapon in ones name selling fire arms, or the guy in a van that smuggled them in from Mexico. Once you ban something, the market for whatever it is goes straight to criminal organizations.

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Voglia wrote Maybe banning a certain gun type, isn't the way to go? What if they made it harder to acquire such weaponry. Not everyone is going to need a use for an Assault Rifle. The excuse of using it for protection, shouldn't be in place. A 9mm is just as useful if not more than an assault rifle, due to the mobility and compact size.

Heres a scenario for you:

What if blackouts or a riot breaks out? In the LA Riots,several people used AR 15 assault rifles to defend themselves.If they of had a 9mm pistol it wouldn't be the same gunfight.

Better to be safe than sorry...

You are correct, it is better to be safe than sorry in case something of that nature breaks out. But if it had to be done, which one would you choose. Make owning an Assault Rifle illegal or having better check-ups before proceeding with the selling of an assault rifle?

Its hard to think of what this country has come to, having restrictions put on, that tears us farther away from that Second Amendment that we have been given at birth. I can't see as to why all of America has to suffer for someone elses demented decision? It's upsetting to think that a Gun ban is brought up after every publicized shooting. People are killed from gang fights pretty much daily, we don't hear of them, or have a big commotion about gun bans. They just move right along with that guys burial, and pretend it never happend.

Yes, its sad to think that a man would have the drive to kill so many kids under 10 years of age. But don't we need weapons to protect us from people like this? Shouldn't schools make it so they have better security? Theres so many factors that can play into this, instead of jumping to the conclusion and heading straight for Gun Bans.

But still why do we need guns? We do not need them. Mostly everybody who owns one is mentally incapable to own one and still begging to keep guns are just going to cause more deaths. We are the only country in the world to have the most amount of deaths per year by guns, both by police and individuals. If we live in a country controlled by guns, then we will be seeing the bottom in no time.

I told you why, to protect ourselves from a tyrannical government. Germany took their guns and look what happened. The people didn't have guns and they couldn't stop it. Guns actually save people too. Take guns away, you leave those that could have been protected vulnerable. This is mainly revolving around the fact that our founding fathers must have seen the future, because if our guns get taken away, government will run rampant. Government will not longer fear the people. A government that fears the people is freedom. People that fear the government is tyranny. This isn't about your everyday shootings and/or self defence. It's much bigger. This is making sure we still have our freedom and our control over the country.

Ok ok, im going to let you say that, but im going to ask, if we did have such a tyrannical government that wishes to destroy us, that what can a measly assault rifle do to a stealth bomber?

A stealth bomber isn't going to level the population of the citizens. It's going to take more than that to dwindle the population. Unless they pull out something from Area 51 or something, our numbers should be able to take them. Their vehicles would be a problem, no doubt, but not impossible to get by. I'm sure a black market or rouge soldiers can get a couple as well. If countries dislike America like they say they do, they could help us as well if things go down. I really, REALLY hate to be this conspiracy theorist, but things just aren't adding up to me. I apologize if I seem insane, but I am just concerned by what I am seeing and what I know could potentially happen. I personally can't stop it even if it went down, so I guess I should really stop worrying. It's going to happen with or without me if it does happen at all.

But what reason is there to worry or fear. There is no reason at all to fear anything in this universe as it will lead to anger which will lead to hate which will lead to the destruction of ones self. In this conspiracy were discussing, either way, with or without guns, the so called tyrannical government can still do anything they want to us if they find us as a threat. They will send a fire squad into your house with armour that can deflect bullets and cannot be pierced by any type of blade. Yes, they can and will send a stealth bomber that will go over your house if you threaten them. Your buffer time gets shorter by the day, so your dreams and fears will come true if you constantly live your life in them.

Lol, to be honest I have asked myself the same thing. I just feel the need to speak about this. I can't seem to keep my nose out of it. I've really tried, lol. I know what they have and it bothers me more than I lead on actually. I have actually said that what they are doing could actually be for our overall benefit as well. For us to succeed as a species, we most likely either need one or two world governments and one or two currency systems. As a species, the NWO that everyone fears would need to happen. It would be the step right before we find away to get off of this planet before the end. I feel this needs to happen, but doesn't mean I like it. There really is no reason to fear, but just worried if this causes some type of civil war or a civil uprising. These are all personal opinions and have no real reason to believe it, just feels right to me.

Yin,i agree with you 100% on every single thing you have said in this post, i think exactly the same way

Rated wrote Now would you rather licensed gun shops that do background checks and register the weapon in ones name selling fire arms, or the guy in a van that smuggled them in from Mexico. Once you ban something, the market for whatever it is goes straight to criminal organizations.

Actually, Mexico has very strict gun laws making it almost impossible for a civilian to own a gun. Also 90% of all the guns in Mexico are from the U.S.