Once again, I'll refer you back to my previous post. In Britain, the last mass shooting at a school was 40 years ago. We haven't had one since we put a ban in place afterwards. Yes, there's always going to be psychotic murderers out there, but, I'd feel much safer if I knew those phycho's didn't have a gun in their hand (which I do feel safe because I know they can't go to the nearest store and pick up an assault rifle).

Point is, you Americans can sit back and just watch these mass shootings of innocent kids go on and at the end of the day, all you care about are your guns. I mean, how many more shootings of presidents or innocent people will it take before you ban them?

What good is that doing for you guys. Sitting back and watching kids die? And it isnt easy just to get rid of guns, there would be so much more problems.

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Uncertainty wrote We better ban cars, and sex, and fast food then, cause STDs, diabetes, and car accidents kill people too. Come on guys, look at the statistics, guns only amount to 40% of homicides in the US. Death is just something that happens. It tragic when 20 children get shot, or 70 people get shot at a movie theater, but attempting to ban firearms isnt going to help the situation. If somebody feels the need to kill a bunch of people, stricter gun laws wont stop them from doing it. Even if guns were completely removed from society murder is still going to be something we are going to have to deal with.

Ok, so why don't we don't unban Assault rifles for civilian use than? it's not like that ban has helped anyone. Oh wait, IT HAS. Sure, there's no way to truly stop gun violence, but there are steps to tone it down. And "Guns only amount to 40% of gun homicides in the U.S." You say that like it's nothing. There are real people....

Civilians can still own assault rifles, they just cant be fully automatic. I understand that they are people, but the majority of that 40% will still exist after an assault rifle ban. Only 2% of shootings are committed with assault rifles. Thats not even half a percent of murders.

To be classified as an assault rifle, a weapon has to be a selective fire (Full auto, burst, Single) weapon. And the reason for banning Assault WEAPONS (Assault weapons are once again, banned!) is not to stop common street muggings, but to stop mass shootings. People need to understand that banning high capacity high power rifles is to stop tragedies such as Sandy Hook. If you want to be protected from a street killing, conceal a medium caliber handgun. Prior to contrary ignorant American belief, you don't need an AR-15 to kill something.

No, because the only weapons used in the Sandy Hook shooting were handguns.

Weapons used in shooting -
#1. Bushmaster .223 caliber-- model XM15-E2S rifle with high capacity 30 round magazine.

#2. Glock 10 mm handgun

#3. Sig-Sauer P226 9mm handgun

The rifle was found on or near the scene. It wasn't fired at anyone. It was all done with handguns.

The Izhmash Canta-12 12 gauge Shotgun was found in Lanza's car. the Bushmaster was proven to be the weapon to kill all 26 victims, and the bullet cases found matched those of the Bushmaster.

Honestly, who cares about what gun was used. ALL guns should be banned from civilian use. End of. It'd stop the gun crime rate massively.

Americans would go crazy and go out and buy every gun known to man before the law would even come into place. Some people that I know are already getting ready for that. It isn't a smart idea to ban guns. It's the schools that need to fix their security. I don't doubt that there are kids in that school that are in gangs, so this could've been gang related (I live in Georgia and the Atlanta area is pretty rough.) The kid could've easily hurt the other kid with something like a knife, so should we ban knives too because they have a possibility to be used as a weapon? Are they too dangerous for America too? The point is, people use guns for many good things, then there are people like this that use them for bad. Guns don't kill people, people kill people.

Once again, I'll refer you back to my previous post. In Britain, the last mass shooting at a school was 40 years ago. We haven't had one since we put a ban in place afterwards. Yes, there's always going to be psychotic murderers out there, but, I'd feel much safer if I knew those phycho's didn't have a gun in their hand (which I do feel safe because I know they can't go to the nearest store and pick up an assault rifle).

Point is, you Americans can sit back and just watch these mass shootings of innocent kids go on and at the end of the day, all you care about are your guns. I mean, how many more shootings of presidents or innocent people will it take before you ban them?

You don't live in America, you have never seen the lack of security in hundreds of schools. Our second amendment protects the rights to have guns. We don't need Obama to come in and try to change the Constitution. We just need more security in schools. :coffee:

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Once again, I'll refer you back to my previous post. In Britain, the last mass shooting at a school was 40 years ago. We haven't had one since we put a ban in place afterwards. Yes, there's always going to be psychotic murderers out there, but, I'd feel much safer if I knew those phycho's didn't have a gun in their hand (which I do feel safe because I know they can't go to the nearest store and pick up an assault rifle).

Point is, you Americans can sit back and just watch these mass shootings of innocent kids go on and at the end of the day, all you care about are your guns. I mean, how many more shootings of presidents or innocent people will it take before you ban them?

What good is that doing for you guys. Sitting back and watching kids die? And it isnt easy just to get rid of guns, there would be so much more problems.

Ugh, why can't you ignorant people comprehend that if there were no guns, you wouldn't need guns to protect yourselves. Yes, it'll be difficult, but surely that's better in the long run?

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Uncertainty wrote We better ban cars, and sex, and fast food then, cause STDs, diabetes, and car accidents kill people too. Come on guys, look at the statistics, guns only amount to 40% of homicides in the US. Death is just something that happens. It tragic when 20 children get shot, or 70 people get shot at a movie theater, but attempting to ban firearms isnt going to help the situation. If somebody feels the need to kill a bunch of people, stricter gun laws wont stop them from doing it. Even if guns were completely removed from society murder is still going to be something we are going to have to deal with.

Ok, so why don't we don't unban Assault rifles for civilian use than? it's not like that ban has helped anyone. Oh wait, IT HAS. Sure, there's no way to truly stop gun violence, but there are steps to tone it down. And "Guns only amount to 40% of gun homicides in the U.S." You say that like it's nothing. There are real people....

Civilians can still own assault rifles, they just cant be fully automatic. I understand that they are people, but the majority of that 40% will still exist after an assault rifle ban. Only 2% of shootings are committed with assault rifles. Thats not even half a percent of murders.

To be classified as an assault rifle, a weapon has to be a selective fire (Full auto, burst, Single) weapon. And the reason for banning Assault WEAPONS (Assault weapons are once again, banned!) is not to stop common street muggings, but to stop mass shootings. People need to understand that banning high capacity high power rifles is to stop tragedies such as Sandy Hook. If you want to be protected from a street killing, conceal a medium caliber handgun. Prior to contrary ignorant American belief, you don't need an AR-15 to kill something.

No, because the only weapons used in the Sandy Hook shooting were handguns.

Weapons used in shooting -
#1. Bushmaster .223 caliber-- model XM15-E2S rifle with high capacity 30 round magazine.

#2. Glock 10 mm handgun

#3. Sig-Sauer P226 9mm handgun

The rifle was found on or near the scene. It wasn't fired at anyone. It was all done with handguns.

The Izhmash Canta-12 12 gauge Shotgun was found in Lanza's car. the Bushmaster was proven to be the weapon to kill all 26 victims, and the bullet cases found matched those of the Bushmaster.

Honestly, who cares about what gun was used. ALL guns should be banned from civilian use. End of. It'd stop the gun crime rate massively.

Americans would go crazy and go out and buy every gun known to man before the law would even come into place. Some people that I know are already getting ready for that. It isn't a smart idea to ban guns. It's the schools that need to fix their security. I don't doubt that there are kids in that school that are in gangs, so this could've been gang related (I live in Georgia and the Atlanta area is pretty rough.) The kid could've easily hurt the other kid with something like a knife, so should we ban knives too because they have a possibility to be used as a weapon? Are they too dangerous for America too? The point is, people use guns for many good things, then there are people like this that use them for bad. Guns don't kill people, people kill people.

Once again, I'll refer you back to my previous post. In Britain, the last mass shooting at a school was 40 years ago. We haven't had one since we put a ban in place afterwards. Yes, there's always going to be psychotic murderers out there, but, I'd feel much safer if I knew those phycho's didn't have a gun in their hand (which I do feel safe because I know they can't go to the nearest store and pick up an assault rifle).

Point is, you Americans can sit back and just watch these mass shootings of innocent kids go on and at the end of the day, all you care about are your guns. I mean, how many more shootings of presidents or innocent people will it take before you ban them?

You don't live in America, you have never seen the lack of security in hundreds of schools. Our second amendment protects the rights to have guns. We don't need Obama to come in and try to change the Constitution. We just need more security in schools. :coffee:

I don't know the American amendments, but doesn't the first amendment allow you to live freely and peacefully or something? How can you be fine with the second amendment knowing that there's someone out there purchasing an automatic machine gun, who's about to shoot innocent people?

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Uncertainty wrote We better ban cars, and sex, and fast food then, cause STDs, diabetes, and car accidents kill people too. Come on guys, look at the statistics, guns only amount to 40% of homicides in the US. Death is just something that happens. It tragic when 20 children get shot, or 70 people get shot at a movie theater, but attempting to ban firearms isnt going to help the situation. If somebody feels the need to kill a bunch of people, stricter gun laws wont stop them from doing it. Even if guns were completely removed from society murder is still going to be something we are going to have to deal with.

Ok, so why don't we don't unban Assault rifles for civilian use than? it's not like that ban has helped anyone. Oh wait, IT HAS. Sure, there's no way to truly stop gun violence, but there are steps to tone it down. And "Guns only amount to 40% of gun homicides in the U.S." You say that like it's nothing. There are real people....

Civilians can still own assault rifles, they just cant be fully automatic. I understand that they are people, but the majority of that 40% will still exist after an assault rifle ban. Only 2% of shootings are committed with assault rifles. Thats not even half a percent of murders.

To be classified as an assault rifle, a weapon has to be a selective fire (Full auto, burst, Single) weapon. And the reason for banning Assault WEAPONS (Assault weapons are once again, banned!) is not to stop common street muggings, but to stop mass shootings. People need to understand that banning high capacity high power rifles is to stop tragedies such as Sandy Hook. If you want to be protected from a street killing, conceal a medium caliber handgun. Prior to contrary ignorant American belief, you don't need an AR-15 to kill something.

No, because the only weapons used in the Sandy Hook shooting were handguns.

Weapons used in shooting -
#1. Bushmaster .223 caliber-- model XM15-E2S rifle with high capacity 30 round magazine.

#2. Glock 10 mm handgun

#3. Sig-Sauer P226 9mm handgun

The rifle was found on or near the scene. It wasn't fired at anyone. It was all done with handguns.

The Izhmash Canta-12 12 gauge Shotgun was found in Lanza's car. the Bushmaster was proven to be the weapon to kill all 26 victims, and the bullet cases found matched those of the Bushmaster.

Honestly, who cares about what gun was used. ALL guns should be banned from civilian use. End of. It'd stop the gun crime rate massively.

Germany started a very strict gun law and you see what happened there. As a civilian I have just as much right to carry a gun as our police and military. Our Constitution begins with "We the people" for a reason. We, as a whole, are above our government. If our government starts to make laws that the people don't agree with and that go against the Constitution, as the NDAA does, we have every right to ensure that we can take back our government from corrupt hands. I, in general, don't really care what guns were used. I think any type of extra ban on guns will be unconstitutional. There are already thousands of gun laws that just should be enforced, but they're not. America is becoming the place that sacrifices freedom for comfort. I don't agree with it.

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Once again, I'll refer you back to my previous post. In Britain, the last mass shooting at a school was 40 years ago. We haven't had one since we put a ban in place afterwards. Yes, there's always going to be psychotic murderers out there, but, I'd feel much safer if I knew those phycho's didn't have a gun in their hand (which I do feel safe because I know they can't go to the nearest store and pick up an assault rifle).

Point is, you Americans can sit back and just watch these mass shootings of innocent kids go on and at the end of the day, all you care about are your guns. I mean, how many more shootings of presidents or innocent people will it take before you ban them?

What good is that doing for you guys. Sitting back and watching kids die? And it isnt easy just to get rid of guns, there would be so much more problems.

Ugh, why can't you ignorant people comprehend that if there were no guns, you wouldn't need guns to protect yourselves. Yes, it'll be difficult, but surely that's better in the long run?

What about all the guns that people already own? You think the military is going to rush into millions of peoples homes and find every gun and destroy it? Just the thought scares me. The riots and protests would be insane.. No need to call us ignorant when we are just debating. :facepalm:

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Once again, I'll refer you back to my previous post. In Britain, the last mass shooting at a school was 40 years ago. We haven't had one since we put a ban in place afterwards. Yes, there's always going to be psychotic murderers out there, but, I'd feel much safer if I knew those phycho's didn't have a gun in their hand (which I do feel safe because I know they can't go to the nearest store and pick up an assault rifle).

Point is, you Americans can sit back and just watch these mass shootings of innocent kids go on and at the end of the day, all you care about are your guns. I mean, how many more shootings of presidents or innocent people will it take before you ban them?

What good is that doing for you guys. Sitting back and watching kids die? And it isnt easy just to get rid of guns, there would be so much more problems.

Ugh, why can't you ignorant people comprehend that if there were no guns, you wouldn't need guns to protect yourselves. Yes, it'll be difficult, but surely that's better in the long run?

People won't just give them up, they will fight for their life. It would cause so much more problems, then there are still knifes. Like I said earlier, the American society, would probably collapse of something dramatic like this.

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Uncertainty wrote We better ban cars, and sex, and fast food then, cause STDs, diabetes, and car accidents kill people too. Come on guys, look at the statistics, guns only amount to 40% of homicides in the US. Death is just something that happens. It tragic when 20 children get shot, or 70 people get shot at a movie theater, but attempting to ban firearms isnt going to help the situation. If somebody feels the need to kill a bunch of people, stricter gun laws wont stop them from doing it. Even if guns were completely removed from society murder is still going to be something we are going to have to deal with.

Ok, so why don't we don't unban Assault rifles for civilian use than? it's not like that ban has helped anyone. Oh wait, IT HAS. Sure, there's no way to truly stop gun violence, but there are steps to tone it down. And "Guns only amount to 40% of gun homicides in the U.S." You say that like it's nothing. There are real people....

Civilians can still own assault rifles, they just cant be fully automatic. I understand that they are people, but the majority of that 40% will still exist after an assault rifle ban. Only 2% of shootings are committed with assault rifles. Thats not even half a percent of murders.

To be classified as an assault rifle, a weapon has to be a selective fire (Full auto, burst, Single) weapon. And the reason for banning Assault WEAPONS (Assault weapons are once again, banned!) is not to stop common street muggings, but to stop mass shootings. People need to understand that banning high capacity high power rifles is to stop tragedies such as Sandy Hook. If you want to be protected from a street killing, conceal a medium caliber handgun. Prior to contrary ignorant American belief, you don't need an AR-15 to kill something.

No, because the only weapons used in the Sandy Hook shooting were handguns.

Weapons used in shooting -
#1. Bushmaster .223 caliber-- model XM15-E2S rifle with high capacity 30 round magazine.

#2. Glock 10 mm handgun

#3. Sig-Sauer P226 9mm handgun

The rifle was found on or near the scene. It wasn't fired at anyone. It was all done with handguns.

The Izhmash Canta-12 12 gauge Shotgun was found in Lanza's car. the Bushmaster was proven to be the weapon to kill all 26 victims, and the bullet cases found matched those of the Bushmaster.

Honestly, who cares about what gun was used. ALL guns should be banned from civilian use. End of. It'd stop the gun crime rate massively.

Americans would go crazy and go out and buy every gun known to man before the law would even come into place. Some people that I know are already getting ready for that. It isn't a smart idea to ban guns. It's the schools that need to fix their security. I don't doubt that there are kids in that school that are in gangs, so this could've been gang related (I live in Georgia and the Atlanta area is pretty rough.) The kid could've easily hurt the other kid with something like a knife, so should we ban knives too because they have a possibility to be used as a weapon? Are they too dangerous for America too? The point is, people use guns for many good things, then there are people like this that use them for bad. Guns don't kill people, people kill people.

Once again, I'll refer you back to my previous post. In Britain, the last mass shooting at a school was 40 years ago. We haven't had one since we put a ban in place afterwards. Yes, there's always going to be psychotic murderers out there, but, I'd feel much safer if I knew those phycho's didn't have a gun in their hand (which I do feel safe because I know they can't go to the nearest store and pick up an assault rifle).

Point is, you Americans can sit back and just watch these mass shootings of innocent kids go on and at the end of the day, all you care about are your guns. I mean, how many more shootings of presidents or innocent people will it take before you ban them?

You don't live in America, you have never seen the lack of security in hundreds of schools. Our second amendment protects the rights to have guns. We don't need Obama to come in and try to change the Constitution. We just need more security in schools. :coffee:

I don't know the American amendments, but doesn't the first amendment allow you to live freely and peacefully or something? How can you be fine with the second amendment knowing that there's someone out there purchasing an automatic machine gun, who's about to shoot innocent people?

The only "Automatic Weaponary" that we have is from your country smuggling it in ours and selling it. Americans can only buy Semi Automatic Weapons

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Once again, I'll refer you back to my previous post. In Britain, the last mass shooting at a school was 40 years ago. We haven't had one since we put a ban in place afterwards. Yes, there's always going to be psychotic murderers out there, but, I'd feel much safer if I knew those phycho's didn't have a gun in their hand (which I do feel safe because I know they can't go to the nearest store and pick up an assault rifle).

Point is, you Americans can sit back and just watch these mass shootings of innocent kids go on and at the end of the day, all you care about are your guns. I mean, how many more shootings of presidents or innocent people will it take before you ban them?

What good is that doing for you guys. Sitting back and watching kids die? And it isnt easy just to get rid of guns, there would be so much more problems.

Ugh, why can't you ignorant people comprehend that if there were no guns, you wouldn't need guns to protect yourselves. Yes, it'll be difficult, but surely that's better in the long run?

What about all the guns that people already own? You think the military is going to rush into millions of peoples homes and find every gun and destroy it? Just the thought scares me. The riots and protests would be insane.. No need to call us ignorant when we are just debating. :facepalm:

I have no idea how the American government would handle banning guns. But they should do it. Blah blah blah it's against my rights. What about those kids who were shot innocently? They HAD rights, and now, because some crazy kid was able to buy a gun at a store, took away their rights.

Okay, I'm going to give you a hypothetical question, say one of your parents, or close relatives was shot dead for NO reason, would you be or against guns? Give me an honest answer.

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Uncertainty wrote We better ban cars, and sex, and fast food then, cause STDs, diabetes, and car accidents kill people too. Come on guys, look at the statistics, guns only amount to 40% of homicides in the US. Death is just something that happens. It tragic when 20 children get shot, or 70 people get shot at a movie theater, but attempting to ban firearms isnt going to help the situation. If somebody feels the need to kill a bunch of people, stricter gun laws wont stop them from doing it. Even if guns were completely removed from society murder is still going to be something we are going to have to deal with.

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Do you just realize what you just said? Guns amount to 40 PERCENT of ALL HOMICIDES in the US. 40 percent is basically half of all homicides. By introducing more gun control, you cut down on the 40% of homicides in the US, by a huge amount. If I told you that half the people that die from homicides each year can be saved by introducing gun control, why not do it?

Thats with ALL guns though, and guns will never be completely eliminated from our society. I said that in relation to assualt rifles, the thing they are actually placing a ban on. I realize 40% is a ton of people, but i was just pointing out that you cant stop murder by eliminating guns.