Vampiric wrote

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Vampiric wrote

-HaaZe wrote

Vampiric wrote

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Vampiric wrote No, this is just the stereotypical, narrow minded view that so many people have when they think of someone on benefits.
YES there are that minority that sits on their arse all day doing f*ck all and getting money from the state, and they are scum.
Although this minority has made it more difficult for people who genuinely need benefits.
My mum is on benefits due to no fault of her own and she gets treated like a said example because of the benefits stereotype and it's unfair.

Overall yes it is a good system, although more methods need to be put in place that target the real benefit scoungers instead of penalizing and interrogating every benefit claimer with no valid reason than the fact that they're claiming or trying to claim benefits.

But why is your mum on benefits? is she unable to work due to a condition?
And i was generally directing this at people who do F all as you said, they need to take more care about who they give these benefits to.

In a way you're right, there are people out there who ARE physically able to work. Although it isn't as easy to get a job as it is to tell someone to get one. Infact it is extremely difficult. And in alot of cases, when someone in this position does get a job, it is far away, meaning they have to spend alot of their earnings on travel expenses and are actually better off not having a job at-all, both financially and physically & mentally.

There are also people who can't work due to things such as depression and PTSD such as my mum.
These are the people who are often forced into finding a job because from they eyes of the Jobcentre, they are physically 'able' to work. Thus making their condition made worse and also having their situation made worse.
This along with the fact that so many people claim they have things like depression when they actually don't, making it even more difficult for the people who DO have those disorders.

Well, i think it's hard to separate the able from the un-able and where to draw the line, i think that people should be forced to get a job, but in a calm, long period way, like they are helped with their problems, and are helped to get back on their feet and gradually build up to getting a job.
I wish your mum the best with her problems, i know my auntie experienced depression too.

Absolutely, what is lacking in the benefit system is emotional support for people.
That is the main thing that people need for them to have the motivation to get out there and also be in a position to get out there and for it to be beneficial to them.
And cheers buddy, yeah it's no fun :|

I think if the amount of money that is being given out to people on benefits is reduced, it would motivate people into getting a job, i think that motivation combined with emotional and physical health help would give people more of a chance to be employed.

Nah, the amount of benefits is already next to nothing, my mum has something crazy like 100 quid a week, and that's for bills, food and rent.
It actually stops her from being able to go out and even think about trying to find a job because she simply can't afford to get to places.
Although some people DO claim loads of benefits and get more than they would if they worked.
A bloke who worked at my dads company left because he worked it out that he'd be getting more money from living on benefits than being at work.
So in cases like that, yes it should definitely be reduced.

Yeah, those people who do actually get paid a lot more than needed do need to be reduced, they need to make the system better, instead of giving out benefits willy-nilly, it gives the younger generation less of a work ethic in my opinion.

It's a good thing in certain situations but it is being misused a lot. People have no motivation in this country to go get a job so they sit around claiming ridiculous benefits and then claim foreigners are stealing all the jobs.

Here is something that really p*sses me off, a Somalian family given a 2m house for free and thousands of pounds worth of benefits.
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I knew a kid at my old school who's dad stayed at home gambling online and was claiming numerous benefits and brought a brand new car.

skeptakol wrote It's a good thing in certain situations but it is being misused a lot. People have no motivation in this country to go get a job so they sit around claiming ridiculous benefits and then claim foreigners are stealing all the jobs.

Here is something that really p*sses me off, a Somalian family given a 2m house for free and thousands of pounds worth of benefits.
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I knew a kid at my old school who's dad stayed at home gambling online and was claiming numerous benefits and brought a brand new car.

I agree, i think it's stupid that people sit around and then claim people are stealing there jobs without even trying...

Yeah, you shouldn't be given a mansion as a reward for how many kids you can pop out. That family deserves nothing.

Incendiary wrote Yeah, you shouldn't be given a mansion as a reward for how many kids you can pop out. That family deserves nothing.

I agree, they should work to support their kids.

The tax payers money and the UK government .... Grrr ,If you think our benefits system is wrong you should check out our foreign aid policies !... It makes me want to puke.

While I see the point you are trying to get across, sometimes benefits in the UK are around for good reason, such as people with problems mentally and physically, those with disabilities, etc. There's also those who are single parents who may have nobody to look after their children. But I do agree, it annoys me to see those without problems of any sort just sit there and scrounge money from the Government, i.e. Unemployed Benefit, or more known as the dole. These type of people will however soon realize that they cannot continue to live on the dole as it will get them nowhere at all in life. But you however need to keep in mind about these type of people making up stupid excuses, such as, "I can't get a job as Muslims are coming into the country and taking our jobs. Durkurdur"