You're leaving out some very key information.

People didn't believe the Nazi's because they lied so much [that was part of it], it was also because Germany was in economic turmoil at the time and the people were turning to extremist parties such as the communists.
Hitler also gained a lot of support because after the loss of World War 1 it became a well believed rumor that Jews had stabbed Germany in the back, he blamed the Jews because of his distorted view of Social Darwinism, this gave him a lot of support, without these views, I don't think he could have made it to where he did.
If the Reichstag fire hadn't of happened, no matter who was responsible, the Communist party would have won the most seats in the German Parliament unless the Nazi's pulled a miracle.
Hitler either got extremely lucky [Which I think happened] or he started the fire himself, which isn't provable.
Hitler was only able to instill complete control over the German people through the use of Article 47.
It basically meant he could pass any bills he wanted without consulting the German Parliament.

This would never, ever be allowed by citizens or any Government today.

Lightyear wrote You're leaving out some very key information.

People didn't believe the Nazi's because they lied so much [that was part of it], it was also because Germany was in economic turmoil at the time and the people were turning to extremist parties such as the communists.
Hitler also gained a lot of support because after the loss of World War 1 it became a well believed rumor that Jews had stabbed Germany in the back, he blamed the Jews because of his distorted view of Social Darwinism, this gave him a lot of support, without these views, I don't think he could have made it to where he did.
If the Reichstag fire hadn't of happened, no matter who was responsible, the Communist party would have won the most seats in the German Parliament unless the Nazi's pulled a miracle.
Hitler either got extremely lucky [Which I think happened] or he started the fire himself, which isn't provable.
Hitler was only able to instill complete control over the German people through the use of Article 47.
It basically meant he could pass any bills he wanted without consulting the German Parliament.

This would never, ever be allowed by citizens or any Government today.

Well, it wouldnt be aloud by us? It is happening today, The rockefellers and the builderberg group can and have pushed bills through congress. Like the federal reserve act. Back to Hitler, I personally believe that he started the fire, for a reason. Problem Reaction Solution. The problem, The fire, Reaction, Blame it on the communists to gain more seats in the german parliment, Solution, Hitler gains control with everyone thinking its the right thing.

-iTurtle- wrote

Lightyear wrote You're leaving out some very key information.

People didn't believe the Nazi's because they lied so much [that was part of it], it was also because Germany was in economic turmoil at the time and the people were turning to extremist parties such as the communists.
Hitler also gained a lot of support because after the loss of World War 1 it became a well believed rumor that Jews had stabbed Germany in the back, he blamed the Jews because of his distorted view of Social Darwinism, this gave him a lot of support, without these views, I don't think he could have made it to where he did.
If the Reichstag fire hadn't of happened, no matter who was responsible, the Communist party would have won the most seats in the German Parliament unless the Nazi's pulled a miracle.
Hitler either got extremely lucky [Which I think happened] or he started the fire himself, which isn't provable.
Hitler was only able to instill complete control over the German people through the use of Article 47.
It basically meant he could pass any bills he wanted without consulting the German Parliament.

This would never, ever be allowed by citizens or any Government today.

Well, it wouldnt be aloud by us? It is happening today, The rockefellers and the builderberg group can and have pushed bills through congress. Like the federal reserve act. Back to Hitler, I personally believe that he started the fire, for a reason. Problem Reaction Solution. The problem, The fire, Reaction, Blame it on the communists to gain more seats in the german parliment, Solution, Hitler gains control with everyone thinking its the right thing.

Then again, Hitler was an opportunist.
Most of the things that helped him during the war happened simply because he acted at just the right time.
Why could this have been any different?

Although he had motive, the one you just described, so did the Communist who was arrested at the scene.
Van der Lubbe was mentally unstable and an extremist communist, he had a criminal record for Arson and he didn't mind getting caught [he accepted sole responsibility for a failed strike at his old work place].
To me, this seals the deal that he acted alone for the Communist underground, people say he could have been influenced into starting the fire by the SA but, I can't see someone with extreme views of that magnitude, who didn't mind punishment, changing the course of History in favor of his enemy.

This well keep a lot of people thinking including me