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Not a lot of Christians know this but, there's 3 Heavens.

The first; The Firmament, the Sky, clouds and birds.
The second; Where the stars, Sun and Moon are.
The third; Where God and his alter ego, Jesus, live among dead martyrs and Saints.

In the Bible, Elijah was taken up to the third heaven and John of Patmos, writer of Revelations, claimed he saw Heaven through an open door.

Really, Heaven is indescribable, John of Patmos' recollection may or may not be accurate, so don't base your belief on it, he was known to be quite a strange writer.
However, there are some parts of the scriptures that give a little insight.
Everything else you've heard is simply speculation that cannot be proven Biblically or physically and is most likely just theological propaganda created by the Church to try and convert people.

Here's some of what the Bible says about it though;

Angels from the third heaven chant "Holy, Holy, Holy" over the throne of God and through the Heavens, John described them as beasts with many eyes and six wings. Nice.

John gives the best description of Heaven as he basically says that it is Jerusalem but made of solid gold and that it is 'precious like a Jewel' and he also describes a 'Great Mountain'.
He says that Jerusalem has a 200 foot thick wall with 12 gates, 12 angels on each gate and it has the names of the 12 tribes of Israel inscribed on each gate.
The city has 12 foundations all with names of each 12 apostles on them.
The angel that John walked with had a huge measuring stick made of Gold o.O
The city is measured to be 1,400 miles long, wide and tall.
No temples in the city because the only temple is God's.
No night time because the light of God outshines the sun.

The thing I find rather eerie is, why would it need a 200 foot thick wall? >_>

Sorry for the long post.

You believe in finding proof and reasoning, so what proof does the bible have behind it to lead you to believe heaven and it's 3 sectors are real?

Lightyear wrote

Xilent wrote

Lightyear wrote

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Not a lot of Christians know this but, there's 3 Heavens.

The first; The Firmament, the Sky, clouds and birds.
The second; Where the stars, Sun and Moon are.
The third; Where God and his alter ego, Jesus, live among dead martyrs and Saints.

In the Bible, Elijah was taken up to the third heaven and John of Patmos, writer of Revelations, claimed he saw Heaven through an open door.

Really, Heaven is indescribable, John of Patmos' recollection may or may not be accurate, so don't base your belief on it, he was known to be quite a strange writer.
However, there are some parts of the scriptures that give a little insight.
Everything else you've heard is simply speculation that cannot be proven Biblically or physically and is most likely just theological propaganda created by the Church to try and convert people.

Here's some of what the Bible says about it though;

Angels from the third heaven chant "Holy, Holy, Holy" over the throne of God and through the Heavens, John described them as beasts with many eyes and six wings. Nice.

John gives the best description of Heaven as he basically says that it is Jerusalem but made of solid gold and that it is 'precious like a Jewel' and he also describes a 'Great Mountain'.
He says that Jerusalem has a 200 foot thick wall with 12 gates, 12 angels on each gate and it has the names of the 12 tribes of Israel inscribed on each gate.
The city has 12 foundations all with names of each 12 apostles on them.
The angel that John walked with had a huge measuring stick made of Gold o.O
The city is measured to be 1,400 miles long, wide and tall.
No temples in the city because the only temple is God's.
No night time because the light of God outshines the sun.

The thing I find rather eerie is, why would it need a 200 foot thick wall? >_>

Sorry for the long post.

You believe in finding proof and reasoning, so what proof does the bible have behind it to lead you to believe heaven and it's 3 sectors are real?

Hold on,

You've made a topic asking for opinions, not proof or facts. Woops, thought this was your topic, I'm half asleep, sorry.
Obviously the Bible is not proof of anything, it is a faith based book.
There would be no point in proof of anything religious because it would destroy the concept of 'Faith', the thing that Religion is based on.

Xilent wrote

Lightyear wrote

Xilent wrote

Lightyear wrote

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Not a lot of Christians know this but, there's 3 Heavens.

The first; The Firmament, the Sky, clouds and birds.
The second; Where the stars, Sun and Moon are.
The third; Where God and his alter ego, Jesus, live among dead martyrs and Saints.

In the Bible, Elijah was taken up to the third heaven and John of Patmos, writer of Revelations, claimed he saw Heaven through an open door.

Really, Heaven is indescribable, John of Patmos' recollection may or may not be accurate, so don't base your belief on it, he was known to be quite a strange writer.
However, there are some parts of the scriptures that give a little insight.
Everything else you've heard is simply speculation that cannot be proven Biblically or physically and is most likely just theological propaganda created by the Church to try and convert people.

Here's some of what the Bible says about it though;

Angels from the third heaven chant "Holy, Holy, Holy" over the throne of God and through the Heavens, John described them as beasts with many eyes and six wings. Nice.

John gives the best description of Heaven as he basically says that it is Jerusalem but made of solid gold and that it is 'precious like a Jewel' and he also describes a 'Great Mountain'.
He says that Jerusalem has a 200 foot thick wall with 12 gates, 12 angels on each gate and it has the names of the 12 tribes of Israel inscribed on each gate.
The city has 12 foundations all with names of each 12 apostles on them.
The angel that John walked with had a huge measuring stick made of Gold o.O
The city is measured to be 1,400 miles long, wide and tall.
No temples in the city because the only temple is God's.
No night time because the light of God outshines the sun.

The thing I find rather eerie is, why would it need a 200 foot thick wall? >_>

Sorry for the long post.

You believe in finding proof and reasoning, so what proof does the bible have behind it to lead you to believe heaven and it's 3 sectors are real?

Hold on,

You've made a topic asking for opinions, not proof or facts. Woops, thought this was your topic, I'm half asleep, sorry.
Obviously the Bible is not proof of anything, it is a faith based book.
There would be no point in proof of anything religious because it would destroy the concept of 'Faith', the thing that Religion is based on.

So why does a book based on faith/emotions guide how you should live?

Lightyear wrote

Xilent wrote

Lightyear wrote

Xilent wrote

Lightyear wrote

Click to View Content

Not a lot of Christians know this but, there's 3 Heavens.

The first; The Firmament, the Sky, clouds and birds.
The second; Where the stars, Sun and Moon are.
The third; Where God and his alter ego, Jesus, live among dead martyrs and Saints.

In the Bible, Elijah was taken up to the third heaven and John of Patmos, writer of Revelations, claimed he saw Heaven through an open door.

Really, Heaven is indescribable, John of Patmos' recollection may or may not be accurate, so don't base your belief on it, he was known to be quite a strange writer.
However, there are some parts of the scriptures that give a little insight.
Everything else you've heard is simply speculation that cannot be proven Biblically or physically and is most likely just theological propaganda created by the Church to try and convert people.

Here's some of what the Bible says about it though;

Angels from the third heaven chant "Holy, Holy, Holy" over the throne of God and through the Heavens, John described them as beasts with many eyes and six wings. Nice.

John gives the best description of Heaven as he basically says that it is Jerusalem but made of solid gold and that it is 'precious like a Jewel' and he also describes a 'Great Mountain'.
He says that Jerusalem has a 200 foot thick wall with 12 gates, 12 angels on each gate and it has the names of the 12 tribes of Israel inscribed on each gate.
The city has 12 foundations all with names of each 12 apostles on them.
The angel that John walked with had a huge measuring stick made of Gold o.O
The city is measured to be 1,400 miles long, wide and tall.
No temples in the city because the only temple is God's.
No night time because the light of God outshines the sun.

The thing I find rather eerie is, why would it need a 200 foot thick wall? >_>

Sorry for the long post.

You believe in finding proof and reasoning, so what proof does the bible have behind it to lead you to believe heaven and it's 3 sectors are real?

Hold on,

You've made a topic asking for opinions, not proof or facts. Woops, thought this was your topic, I'm half asleep, sorry.
Obviously the Bible is not proof of anything, it is a faith based book.
There would be no point in proof of anything religious because it would destroy the concept of 'Faith', the thing that Religion is based on.

So why does a book based on faith/emotions guide how you should live?

It doesn't, I'm atheist, but answering from a Religious perspective, I would say that they follow it because they haven't read it, and if they did they would convert.
Unless they strongly believe in 'Everything happens for a reason' or 'God works in mysterious [and evidently psychotic] ways'

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That something nobody will ever know.

But I found this on YouTube a long time ago.

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