r00t wrote You'll need to remove all the thermal paste on the CPU and cooler, (isopropyl alcohol and something lint-free like a coffee filter are useful for this), apply new thermal paste with a pea-sized dot in the center of the CPU, and then install the cooler again making sure you're doing everything correctly. I suggest looking over the manual to make sure you're mounting properly.

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r00t wrote 4 GHz is the stock turbo speed and if you haven't overclocked it yourself, the stock cooler should be performing fine. Try taking the cooler off and mounting it again.

I don't know how it was overclocked (im not good at all this) But I used the AMD Overdrive utility to reduce the clock speed on all cores to 3.4GHz (The Base Clock Speed) And it's still idling at about 60 degrees celsius. Could remounting the Fan really make a difference? If so I'll do it and post back results.

It can do yes - it might not be placed correctly, or there may have been a bubble in the thermal paste meaning you get less heat transfer to the CPU cooler. If need be, you can always apply new thermal paste. I've done that in the past and it's solved any problems I had with heating.

So do i need to buy new thermal paste or what? If I take it off will I be able to use my computer still if i do need more thermal paste?

When you take off the cooler, you'll be able to tell if you need new thermal paste. However, as the computer is only a few weeks old, it's highly unlikely. Possible though, as you've been running it at super high temperatures.

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You need new thermal paste. You can pick some up in most, if not all, computer stores. They should all stock it. It doesn't have to be expensive, arctic silver do some nice thermal paste, and so do cooler master.

You always need new paste if you're re-applying!

Looks like i'll have to go out and buy new thermal paste then. IS there any chance that there could be something else wrong? I got the system put together by a company called vibox as it worked out cheaper for them to make it for me. It seems really strange that a company with such high ratings could mess up on something so simple...

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r00t wrote You'll need to remove all the thermal paste on the CPU and cooler, (isopropyl alcohol and something lint-free like a coffee filter are useful for this), apply new thermal paste with a pea-sized dot in the center of the CPU, and then install the cooler again making sure you're doing everything correctly. I suggest looking over the manual to make sure you're mounting properly.

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r00t wrote 4 GHz is the stock turbo speed and if you haven't overclocked it yourself, the stock cooler should be performing fine. Try taking the cooler off and mounting it again.

I don't know how it was overclocked (im not good at all this) But I used the AMD Overdrive utility to reduce the clock speed on all cores to 3.4GHz (The Base Clock Speed) And it's still idling at about 60 degrees celsius. Could remounting the Fan really make a difference? If so I'll do it and post back results.

It can do yes - it might not be placed correctly, or there may have been a bubble in the thermal paste meaning you get less heat transfer to the CPU cooler. If need be, you can always apply new thermal paste. I've done that in the past and it's solved any problems I had with heating.

So do i need to buy new thermal paste or what? If I take it off will I be able to use my computer still if i do need more thermal paste?

When you take off the cooler, you'll be able to tell if you need new thermal paste. However, as the computer is only a few weeks old, it's highly unlikely. Possible though, as you've been running it at super high temperatures.

If it looks like this: [ Register or Signin to view external links. ]

You need new thermal paste. You can pick some up in most, if not all, computer stores. They should all stock it. It doesn't have to be expensive, arctic silver do some nice thermal paste, and so do cooler master.

You always need new paste if you're re-applying![/spoil]
Looks like i'll have to go out and buy new thermal paste then. IS there any chance that there could be something else wrong? I got the system put together by a company called vibox as it worked out cheaper for them to make it for me. It seems really strange that a company with such high ratings could mess up on something so simple...
If all your fans are spinning and your case is remotely well-ventilated, a bad mount is the only thing I can think of. FM1 CPUs don't get that hot on stock coolers and I've built five rigs using 3870Ks, which have the same TDP as the 651K. 60C idle doesn't happen under normal conditions.

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r00t wrote You'll need to remove all the thermal paste on the CPU and cooler, (isopropyl alcohol and something lint-free like a coffee filter are useful for this), apply new thermal paste with a pea-sized dot in the center of the CPU, and then install the cooler again making sure you're doing everything correctly. I suggest looking over the manual to make sure you're mounting properly.

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UR_A_WZURD_ARRY wrote

r00t wrote 4 GHz is the stock turbo speed and if you haven't overclocked it yourself, the stock cooler should be performing fine. Try taking the cooler off and mounting it again.

I don't know how it was overclocked (im not good at all this) But I used the AMD Overdrive utility to reduce the clock speed on all cores to 3.4GHz (The Base Clock Speed) And it's still idling at about 60 degrees celsius. Could remounting the Fan really make a difference? If so I'll do it and post back results.

It can do yes - it might not be placed correctly, or there may have been a bubble in the thermal paste meaning you get less heat transfer to the CPU cooler. If need be, you can always apply new thermal paste. I've done that in the past and it's solved any problems I had with heating.

So do i need to buy new thermal paste or what? If I take it off will I be able to use my computer still if i do need more thermal paste?

When you take off the cooler, you'll be able to tell if you need new thermal paste. However, as the computer is only a few weeks old, it's highly unlikely. Possible though, as you've been running it at super high temperatures.

If it looks like this: [ Register or Signin to view external links. ]

You need new thermal paste. You can pick some up in most, if not all, computer stores. They should all stock it. It doesn't have to be expensive, arctic silver do some nice thermal paste, and so do cooler master.

You always need new paste if you're re-applying!

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Looks like i'll have to go out and buy new thermal paste then. IS there any chance that there could be something else wrong? I got the system put together by a company called vibox as it worked out cheaper for them to make it for me. It seems really strange that a company with such high ratings could mess up on something so simple...
If all your fans are spinning and your case is remotely well-ventilated, a bad mount is the only thing I can think of. FM1 CPUs don't get that hot on stock coolers and I've built five rigs using 3870Ks, which have the same TDP as the 651K. 60C idle doesn't happen under normal conditions.



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The Case Is definitely well ventilated, and All fans including the case fan are spinning at the designated RPM. Looks like i'll have to do a remount. Although, I understand that the temperature is taken from the motherboards sensor, do you think something could be messing up on that side of things? As when i put my hand near my CPU, it doesn't even feel remotely hot, maybe 18-25 degrees.

You might try to eliminate the program as the fault here. Maybe HWMonitor is reading incorrectly. You can try some others like Core Temp and Real Temp.

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r00t wrote You might try to eliminate the program as the fault here. Maybe HWMonitor is reading incorrectly. You can try some others like Core Temp and Real Temp.

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CoreTemp says the same thing :/

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r00t wrote You might try to eliminate the program as the fault here. Maybe HWMonitor is reading incorrectly. You can try some others like Core Temp and Real Temp.

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CoreTemp says the same thing :/

Have you tried booting to the BIOS to see if the temps can be monitored there?

Yeah, I booted into the BIOS, says roughly the same thing, around 53 Degrees. It must be the fan, I changed the Clock speed in the BIOS to 3.4 GHz aswell. The average Temperature has dropped around 10 degrees to 52-53. Thanks for your help r00t. I'll let you know in a couple of days if I fix the problem with a remount. (If you want to know that is )

PS. On a last note, the heat fluctuates almost instantly by like 10 degrees as well, I fail to understand how something can decrease in temperature that fast also...

UR_A_WZURD_ARRY wrote Yeah, I booted into the BIOS, says roughly the same thing, around 53 Degrees. It must be the fan, I changed the Clock speed in the BIOS to 3.4 GHz aswell. The average Temperature has dropped around 10 degrees to 52-53. Thanks for your help r00t. I'll let you know in a couple of days if I fix the problem with a remount. (If you want to know that is )

PS. On a last note, the heat fluctuates almost instantly by like 10 degrees as well, I fail to understand how something can decrease in temperature that fast also...

The last thing I would try to do is call up Vibox and complain because a bad mount from a professional service is unacceptable. That's about as rookie a mistake as you can make. It also shows that they didn't test anything before shipping, which says a lot about their business.

Good luck!

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UR_A_WZURD_ARRY wrote Yeah, I booted into the BIOS, says roughly the same thing, around 53 Degrees. It must be the fan, I changed the Clock speed in the BIOS to 3.4 GHz aswell. The average Temperature has dropped around 10 degrees to 52-53. Thanks for your help r00t. I'll let you know in a couple of days if I fix the problem with a remount. (If you want to know that is )

PS. On a last note, the heat fluctuates almost instantly by like 10 degrees as well, I fail to understand how something can decrease in temperature that fast also...

The last thing I would try to do is call up Vibox and complain because a bad mount from a professional service is unacceptable. That's about as rookie a mistake as you can make. It also shows that they didn't test anything before shipping, which says a lot about their business.

Good luck!

Think I've finally got it. Amongst testing different speeds etc. whilst running battlefield I came across two blue screens, both displaying the same error. The error was something like "A clock interrupt was not received on a secondary processor within the allocated time interval" So I assumed it had something to do with cores fluctuating in frequencies. IT turns out that two things were trying to OC my CPU at the same time. AMD Over, drive and the BIOS itself. To fix this I restored the optimised settings on the BIOS and removed AMD overdrive from my system. Then I updated My AMD catalyst control the the beta driver and set the clock speed to 3.4GHz. Low and Behold the PC has been fine since and these are my temperature results after an hour of playing BF3 on Medium Settings.
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No BSOD since either!
Thanks a lot for all your help r00t, You are now my favourite mod on TTG

If you're interested that BSOD i get sometimes when overclocking my AMD Bulldozer. Its something to do with incorrect voltage being applied to the processor. It sounds like you've solved the problem but in future if it locks up and shows that error it needs more juice but be careful as always!