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Did the Nerevarine ever come back from Akavir?
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Also when did the champion of cyrodill die? Did Cicero kill him?
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Its never been stated if the Nerevarine came back from where they went to. As for the Champion of Cyrodiil, there is debate over what happened with them. Either they became Sheogorath via the Shivering Isles expansion, and thus are the Sheogorath seen in Skyrim. Or they stayed normal and did whatever the player wanted them to have done. As for Cicero killing them that is impossible unless they were an Elf. Cicero, at most, no older then 40 years old. The events of Oblivion took place 200 years before Skyrim, meaning about 160 years before Cicero was born. So unless they were a long living elf, like Altmer, dunmer, bosmer, they would have died of old age long before Cicero was born.
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Maybe cicero was a vampire at some point in his life but still the adoring fan was an elf.

As for sheogorath i think your right because in skyrim he says im you and your me.
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Doctor_Calibur wrote Maybe cicero was a vampire at some point in his life but still the adoring fan was an elf.

As for sheogorath i think your right because in skyrim he says im you and your me.


I don't believe Sheogorath was ever the Champion, honestly its just too farfetched and leaves too many questions. The way I see Shivering Isles to have gone is that the Champion merely took the title of Madgod until Sheogorath could return, just so the Shivering Isles wouldn't disappear with out the true Sheogorath.

As for Cicero being a vampire at some point, I don't really believe he would have been. If he had, why would he cure himself? A vampire has more power to be an assassin then a regular character would so if he was one he'd choose to stay as one for the power it'd give him.
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Maybe he cured himself cause hes crazy....Maybe hes crazy because he has lived to long and the things hes seen have driven him mad.
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Doctor_Calibur wrote Maybe he cured himself cause hes crazy....Maybe hes crazy because he has lived to long and the things hes seen have driven him mad.


He would have made mention of it in his journal as that would have been a drastic life change. Plus he didn't become crazy until closer to the time of Skyrim aka 4E 201, likely after killing a jester whose laughter never faded from his mind.
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I believe the Champion of Cyrodill did in fact become Sheogorath, at least assumes the title of the Madgod. The Champion did not become a Daedra as I believe it was said you become the first mortal to sit on a Daedric Prince's throne. The real "Sheogorath" will one day come back, but as Jyggalag, well maybe he might be tired of the Isles. There is only the line in the game that leads to the assumption the Champion is still Sheogorath. There is not enough info to say for sure what happened to the Champion. With the Knights of The Nine you become in a sense a demi-god, so I highly doubt Cicero would stand a chance against The Champion.
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Brainstrain wrote I believe the Champion of Cyrodill did in fact become Sheogorath, at least assumes the title of the Madgod. The Champion did not become a Daedra as I believe it was said you become the first mortal to sit on a Daedric Prince's throne. The real "Sheogorath" will one day come back, but as Jyggalag, well maybe he might be tired of the Isles. There is only the line in the game that leads to the assumption the Champion is still Sheogorath. There is not enough info to say for sure what happened to the Champion. With the Knights of The Nine you become in a sense a demi-god, so I highly doubt Cicero would stand a chance against The Champion.


As stated above, its player assumption as to if the Champion became Sheogorath or not. I don't like to believe it because to me the Champion merely took the title of Madgod for a little, but did not become Sheogorath.
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LycosDevanos wrote
Brainstrain wrote I believe the Champion of Cyrodill did in fact become Sheogorath, at least assumes the title of the Madgod. The Champion did not become a Daedra as I believe it was said you become the first mortal to sit on a Daedric Prince's throne. The real "Sheogorath" will one day come back, but as Jyggalag, well maybe he might be tired of the Isles. There is only the line in the game that leads to the assumption the Champion is still Sheogorath. There is not enough info to say for sure what happened to the Champion. With the Knights of The Nine you become in a sense a demi-god, so I highly doubt Cicero would stand a chance against The Champion.


As stated above, its player assumption as to if the Champion became Sheogorath or not. I don't like to believe it because to me the Champion merely took the title of Madgod for a little, but did not become Sheogorath.
It's also said that the dragonborn is directly related to the Champion of Cyrodiil, but that's also player assumption.
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bruisingwarhawk wrote
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Brainstrain wrote I believe the Champion of Cyrodill did in fact become Sheogorath, at least assumes the title of the Madgod. The Champion did not become a Daedra as I believe it was said you become the first mortal to sit on a Daedric Prince's throne. The real "Sheogorath" will one day come back, but as Jyggalag, well maybe he might be tired of the Isles. There is only the line in the game that leads to the assumption the Champion is still Sheogorath. There is not enough info to say for sure what happened to the Champion. With the Knights of The Nine you become in a sense a demi-god, so I highly doubt Cicero would stand a chance against The Champion.


As stated above, its player assumption as to if the Champion became Sheogorath or not. I don't like to believe it because to me the Champion merely took the title of Madgod for a little, but did not become Sheogorath.
It's also said that the dragonborn is directly related to the Champion of Cyrodiil, but that's also player assumption.


It is never said of that, or if it is proof. I've never encountered any mention of any such details, both in game and searching the wiki.
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