Yin wrote

IgnorantChildren wrote

SIurm wrote

IgnorantChildren wrote

SIurm wrote What has me sold:
1.Sony cares about gamers.

2.Trade in games.

3.Don't have to be online.

4.The new interface

1. Ehh...not anymore than Microsoft. Microsoft is like your mom who gives you advice and you're just like "Lol okay mom" Two years later you're like...."woah maybe mom was right." Sadly, most of the kids on TTG are too ignorant to understand what Microsoft is doing, and they aren't willing to learn.

I doubt Sony cares about gamers anymore than Microsoft, they just saw how gamers reacted to the Xbox One and said "Do you know how much money we can make if we just do the opposite of Microsoft's f-ups?" And so they did.

Maybe Microsoft will do something revolutionary, but I've been with Sony almost my entire gaming life.

It was "What has sold you on The PS4?" Not "Come here and debate about which console is the best"

I'm not about to start a flame war over a CONSOLE.

Starting an argument with me is like trying to start a war with the USA, you won't win.

Vietnam

On topic: The PS4 is kind of getting me. I love the Xbox brand, but I just don't agree with what they are doing. I'm fine with the used game thing in a sense. I just really don't like needing to be online for an hour every 24 hour period. It's a console, not a PC. I should be able to use it no matter the location as long as I have a TV and electricity. The Kinect is not really a cool thing either. Why do I have to have it on while I play? It's already uncomfortable that Microsoft is part of PRISM. Now we have a camera that is always when the Xbox is on? Not cool. I'm still on the edge though because I have eight years worth of achievements and time put into my account. PS4 is looking pretty good though.

If we went to war with Vietnam today...lol.

@ Everything else, just read this.

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IgnorantChildren wrote

Yin wrote

IgnorantChildren wrote

SIurm wrote

IgnorantChildren wrote

SIurm wrote What has me sold:
1.Sony cares about gamers.

2.Trade in games.

3.Don't have to be online.

4.The new interface

1. Ehh...not anymore than Microsoft. Microsoft is like your mom who gives you advice and you're just like "Lol okay mom" Two years later you're like...."woah maybe mom was right." Sadly, most of the kids on TTG are too ignorant to understand what Microsoft is doing, and they aren't willing to learn.

I doubt Sony cares about gamers anymore than Microsoft, they just saw how gamers reacted to the Xbox One and said "Do you know how much money we can make if we just do the opposite of Microsoft's f-ups?" And so they did.

Maybe Microsoft will do something revolutionary, but I've been with Sony almost my entire gaming life.

It was "What has sold you on The PS4?" Not "Come here and debate about which console is the best"

I'm not about to start a flame war over a CONSOLE.

Starting an argument with me is like trying to start a war with the USA, you won't win.

Vietnam

On topic: The PS4 is kind of getting me. I love the Xbox brand, but I just don't agree with what they are doing. I'm fine with the used game thing in a sense. I just really don't like needing to be online for an hour every 24 hour period. It's a console, not a PC. I should be able to use it no matter the location as long as I have a TV and electricity. The Kinect is not really a cool thing either. Why do I have to have it on while I play? It's already uncomfortable that Microsoft is part of PRISM. Now we have a camera that is always when the Xbox is on? Not cool. I'm still on the edge though because I have eight years worth of achievements and time put into my account. PS4 is looking pretty good though.

If we went to war with Vietnam today...lol.

@ Everything else, just read this.

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That really didn't clear up anything. The DRM isn't confirmed to work the way the guy thinks it may work in the post. That being said, there is still the problem of needing an internet connection for an hour every 24 hours (until confirmed.) Turning off the features of the Kinect does nothing to their end. If there is power to the console and I'm online, they have access to it. The webcam on my computer can be hacked into at any point without me knowing. It's just how that works. It's not like the NSA or whoever would come out and say they are doing it. It would be kept secret. Point being: Cameras that have power and internet to them aren't to be trusted (especially those from Microsoft, Google, Facebook, etc.) Could I be paranoid? Maybe. It's still a realistic possibility though.

Zob wrote 1. $100 Cheaper
2. Free to trade games whenever
3. $50 a year instead of 70
4. No mandatory camera
I could go on forever.

If Only You Could Go On Forever With Correct Facts.
1.It's Only 60 For A Year

A few things made the decision an obvious one,
1. I have always been a PS fan
2. Most of my friends will be getting the PS4
3. The Social Integration that has been added looks very good and especially the share option I can't wait to test that out.

SIurm wrote

IgnorantChildren wrote

SIurm wrote What has me sold:
1.Sony cares about gamers.

2.Trade in games.

3.Don't have to be online.

4.The new interface

1. Ehh...not anymore than Microsoft. Microsoft is like your mom who gives you advice and you're just like "Lol okay mom" Two years later you're like...."woah maybe mom was right." Sadly, most of the kids on TTG are too ignorant to understand what Microsoft is doing, and they aren't willing to learn.

I doubt Sony cares about gamers anymore than Microsoft, they just saw how gamers reacted to the Xbox One and said "Do you know how much money we can make if we just do the opposite of Microsoft's f-ups?" And so they did.

Maybe Microsoft will do something revolutionary, but I've been with Sony almost my entire gaming life.

It was "What has sold you on The PS4?" Not "Come here and debate about which console is the best"

I'm not about to start a flame war over a CONSOLE.

Bro you obviously haven't seen the xbox one forums with all the stinky sony fangirls "omg xb0x sukz"

Yin wrote

IgnorantChildren wrote

Yin wrote

IgnorantChildren wrote

SIurm wrote

IgnorantChildren wrote

SIurm wrote What has me sold:
1.Sony cares about gamers.

2.Trade in games.

3.Don't have to be online.

4.The new interface

1. Ehh...not anymore than Microsoft. Microsoft is like your mom who gives you advice and you're just like "Lol okay mom" Two years later you're like...."woah maybe mom was right." Sadly, most of the kids on TTG are too ignorant to understand what Microsoft is doing, and they aren't willing to learn.

I doubt Sony cares about gamers anymore than Microsoft, they just saw how gamers reacted to the Xbox One and said "Do you know how much money we can make if we just do the opposite of Microsoft's f-ups?" And so they did.

Maybe Microsoft will do something revolutionary, but I've been with Sony almost my entire gaming life.

It was "What has sold you on The PS4?" Not "Come here and debate about which console is the best"

I'm not about to start a flame war over a CONSOLE.

Starting an argument with me is like trying to start a war with the USA, you won't win.

Vietnam

On topic: The PS4 is kind of getting me. I love the Xbox brand, but I just don't agree with what they are doing. I'm fine with the used game thing in a sense. I just really don't like needing to be online for an hour every 24 hour period. It's a console, not a PC. I should be able to use it no matter the location as long as I have a TV and electricity. The Kinect is not really a cool thing either. Why do I have to have it on while I play? It's already uncomfortable that Microsoft is part of PRISM. Now we have a camera that is always when the Xbox is on? Not cool. I'm still on the edge though because I have eight years worth of achievements and time put into my account. PS4 is looking pretty good though.

If we went to war with Vietnam today...lol.

@ Everything else, just read this.

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That really didn't clear up anything. The DRM isn't confirmed to work the way the guy thinks it may work in the post. That being said, there is still the problem of needing an internet connection for an hour every 24 hours (until confirmed.) Turning off the features of the Kinect does nothing to their end. If there is power to the console and I'm online, they have access to it. The webcam on my computer can be hacked into at any point without me knowing. It's just how that works. It's not like the NSA or whoever would come out and say they are doing it. It would be kept secret. Point being: Cameras that have power and internet to them aren't to be trusted (especially those from Microsoft, Google, Facebook, etc.) Could I be paranoid? Maybe. It's still a realistic possibility though.

Yes you're paranoid. Seriously, why does everyone think they're important enough for the government to give a **** about? Why do kids on here think the government has the time or resources to watch every xbox one player 24/7?

I'm not going to argue with someone who will just continually say, "BUT DA CAMERA IS WATHCIN U, HOW WE KNO, DEY NOT RECORDING YOU?"

being able to buy used games
free online
not having a kinect look at me all the time

btw i am switching from a Xbox 360 just to clarify that i am not a Microsoft fan boy

IgnorantChildren wrote

Yin wrote

IgnorantChildren wrote

Yin wrote

IgnorantChildren wrote

SIurm wrote

IgnorantChildren wrote

SIurm wrote What has me sold:
1.Sony cares about gamers.

2.Trade in games.

3.Don't have to be online.

4.The new interface

1. Ehh...not anymore than Microsoft. Microsoft is like your mom who gives you advice and you're just like "Lol okay mom" Two years later you're like...."woah maybe mom was right." Sadly, most of the kids on TTG are too ignorant to understand what Microsoft is doing, and they aren't willing to learn.

I doubt Sony cares about gamers anymore than Microsoft, they just saw how gamers reacted to the Xbox One and said "Do you know how much money we can make if we just do the opposite of Microsoft's f-ups?" And so they did.

Maybe Microsoft will do something revolutionary, but I've been with Sony almost my entire gaming life.

It was "What has sold you on The PS4?" Not "Come here and debate about which console is the best"

I'm not about to start a flame war over a CONSOLE.

Starting an argument with me is like trying to start a war with the USA, you won't win.

Vietnam

On topic: The PS4 is kind of getting me. I love the Xbox brand, but I just don't agree with what they are doing. I'm fine with the used game thing in a sense. I just really don't like needing to be online for an hour every 24 hour period. It's a console, not a PC. I should be able to use it no matter the location as long as I have a TV and electricity. The Kinect is not really a cool thing either. Why do I have to have it on while I play? It's already uncomfortable that Microsoft is part of PRISM. Now we have a camera that is always when the Xbox is on? Not cool. I'm still on the edge though because I have eight years worth of achievements and time put into my account. PS4 is looking pretty good though.

If we went to war with Vietnam today...lol.

@ Everything else, just read this.

[ Register or Signin to view external links. ]

That really didn't clear up anything. The DRM isn't confirmed to work the way the guy thinks it may work in the post. That being said, there is still the problem of needing an internet connection for an hour every 24 hours (until confirmed.) Turning off the features of the Kinect does nothing to their end. If there is power to the console and I'm online, they have access to it. The webcam on my computer can be hacked into at any point without me knowing. It's just how that works. It's not like the NSA or whoever would come out and say they are doing it. It would be kept secret. Point being: Cameras that have power and internet to them aren't to be trusted (especially those from Microsoft, Google, Facebook, etc.) Could I be paranoid? Maybe. It's still a realistic possibility though.

Yes you're paranoid. Seriously, why does everyone think they're important enough for the government to give a **** about? Why do kids on here think the government has the time or resources to watch every xbox one player 24/7?

I'm not going to argue with someone who will just continually say, "BUT DA CAMERA IS WATHCIN U, HOW WE KNO, DEY NOT RECORDING YOU?"

It's not that they are watching every person on Xbox, it's the fact that they can watch any of them when they want. Not to mention no one trusts Microsoft with security especially after some of the leaked Edward Snowden papers showed Microsoft sharing information with the NSA.

Here are some of the reasons people don't like the new Xbox, you obviously love:

- You have to have Kinect plugged in at all times to use the console, can never actually turn it "off"
- It has significantly less power than the PS4 (50% slower GPU) [ Register or Signin to view external links. ]
- Zero backwards compatibility
- Microsoft won't allow indie devs to self-publish/they must get a publisher (very expensive for small companies)
- Will be region locked, making many countries wait a long time or never be able to use the console altogether
- Completely retarded restrictions on trading/selling used game to make Microsoft more money
- $100 more for less power and more restrictions than the PS4 (wut?)

as far as i have heard the ps4 does not have to be connected to the internet every 24 hours , i have a better connection when playing games (im really sick of the spounging on xbox ) you may have to pay prescription to ps4 like live but i think you will get a better deal ,if you pay on ps3 you get a lot of discounts early dlc , but mostly because i have had enough of microsoft banning me because some little sh@t didnt like getting owned

Yea sony always has free games for ps+ members too.

IgnorantChildren wrote

Yin wrote

IgnorantChildren wrote

Yin wrote

IgnorantChildren wrote

SIurm wrote

IgnorantChildren wrote

SIurm wrote What has me sold:
1.Sony cares about gamers.

2.Trade in games.

3.Don't have to be online.

4.The new interface

1. Ehh...not anymore than Microsoft. Microsoft is like your mom who gives you advice and you're just like "Lol okay mom" Two years later you're like...."woah maybe mom was right." Sadly, most of the kids on TTG are too ignorant to understand what Microsoft is doing, and they aren't willing to learn.

I doubt Sony cares about gamers anymore than Microsoft, they just saw how gamers reacted to the Xbox One and said "Do you know how much money we can make if we just do the opposite of Microsoft's f-ups?" And so they did.

Maybe Microsoft will do something revolutionary, but I've been with Sony almost my entire gaming life.

It was "What has sold you on The PS4?" Not "Come here and debate about which console is the best"

I'm not about to start a flame war over a CONSOLE.

Starting an argument with me is like trying to start a war with the USA, you won't win.

Vietnam

On topic: The PS4 is kind of getting me. I love the Xbox brand, but I just don't agree with what they are doing. I'm fine with the used game thing in a sense. I just really don't like needing to be online for an hour every 24 hour period. It's a console, not a PC. I should be able to use it no matter the location as long as I have a TV and electricity. The Kinect is not really a cool thing either. Why do I have to have it on while I play? It's already uncomfortable that Microsoft is part of PRISM. Now we have a camera that is always when the Xbox is on? Not cool. I'm still on the edge though because I have eight years worth of achievements and time put into my account. PS4 is looking pretty good though.

If we went to war with Vietnam today...lol.

@ Everything else, just read this.

[ Register or Signin to view external links. ]

That really didn't clear up anything. The DRM isn't confirmed to work the way the guy thinks it may work in the post. That being said, there is still the problem of needing an internet connection for an hour every 24 hours (until confirmed.) Turning off the features of the Kinect does nothing to their end. If there is power to the console and I'm online, they have access to it. The webcam on my computer can be hacked into at any point without me knowing. It's just how that works. It's not like the NSA or whoever would come out and say they are doing it. It would be kept secret. Point being: Cameras that have power and internet to them aren't to be trusted (especially those from Microsoft, Google, Facebook, etc.) Could I be paranoid? Maybe. It's still a realistic possibility though.

Yes you're paranoid. Seriously, why does everyone think they're important enough for the government to give a **** about? Why do kids on here think the government has the time or resources to watch every xbox one player 24/7?

I'm not going to argue with someone who will just continually say, "BUT DA CAMERA IS WATHCIN U, HOW WE KNO, DEY NOT RECORDING YOU?"

Well, this really isn't about me. I'm also thinking of others in this situation as well. Do I want to give a company money that has the authority to record everything anyone does? That is a bigger question. Of course them doing this is pretty rare, but there is still that chance. For all anyone knows, this could be their version of a BETA test to see if they can actually do this and to what extent. Again, I couldn't care less if they were recording me, because I am not a terrorist. I do have a problem with their authority to record me and everyone else for that matter, though.