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Since there is too many replies to answer to(Mr popular over here ) and the fact that discussing the weather or not to get rid of guns in a both ignorant and corrupt country has bored me I think I'll end on this. Think about all those shootings in America. All the people who lost their lives. The families that have been affected. Think about how if it wasn't for that gun it would not have happened.
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This is a very difficult topic and really doesn't have a correct answer, i could make a list about why they should be legal and another saying why they should be banned.
Yes they do have the self defense value, but they are also used to take innocent lives.
Legal or illegal, people will still get hold of them, crime rates will not differ and people are still going to die.
It's the world we live in and no law is going to change these things sadly.
Yes they do have the self defense value, but they are also used to take innocent lives.
Legal or illegal, people will still get hold of them, crime rates will not differ and people are still going to die.
It's the world we live in and no law is going to change these things sadly.
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celtic240497 wrote Since there is too many replies to answer to(Mr popular over here ) and the fact that discussing the weather or not to get rid of guns in a both ignorant and corrupt country has bored me I think I'll end on this. Think about all those shootings in America. All the people who lost their lives. The families that have been affected. Think about how if it wasn't for that gun it would not have happened.
This is how hasty, un-constitutional, and completely ineffective legislation gets passed. When lawmakers make decisions to pander to the emotions of the public and keep themselves in office, they make the problem even worse. All they've done is made it more difficult for law-abiding citizens to defend themselves and given a gigantic boom to the multi-billion-dollar firearms industry due to panic buying. Blame the media for putting the murderers in the spotlight instead of those who put them down. You don't know about the shootings that didn't happen.
Mayan Palace Theater, San Antonio, Texas, this week: Jesus Manuel Garcia shoots at a movie theater, a police car and bystanders from the nearby China Garden restaurant; as he enters the movie theater, guns blazing, an armed off-duty cop shoots Garcia four times, stopping the attack. Total dead: Zero.
Winnemucca, Nev., 2008: Ernesto Villagomez opens fire in a crowded restaurant; concealed carry permit-holder shoots him dead. Total dead: Two. (Im excluding the shooters deaths in these examples.)
Appalachian School of Law, 2002: Crazed immigrant shoots the dean and a professor, then begins shooting students; as he goes for more ammunition, two armed students point their guns at him, allowing a third to tackle him. Total dead: Three.
Santee, Calif., 2001: Student begins shooting his classmates as well as the trained campus supervisor; an off-duty cop who happened to be bringing his daughter to school that day points his gun at the shooter, holding him until more police arrive. Total dead: Two.
Pearl High School, Mississippi, 1997: After shooting several people at his high school, student heads for the junior high school; assistant principal Joel Myrick retrieves a .45 pistol from his car and points it at the gunmans head, ending the murder spree. Total dead: Two.
Edinboro, Pa., 1998: A student shoots up a junior high school dance being held at a restaurant; restaurant owner pulls out his shotgun and stops the gunman. Total dead: One.
Winnemucca, Nev., 2008: Ernesto Villagomez opens fire in a crowded restaurant; concealed carry permit-holder shoots him dead. Total dead: Two. (Im excluding the shooters deaths in these examples.)
Appalachian School of Law, 2002: Crazed immigrant shoots the dean and a professor, then begins shooting students; as he goes for more ammunition, two armed students point their guns at him, allowing a third to tackle him. Total dead: Three.
Santee, Calif., 2001: Student begins shooting his classmates as well as the trained campus supervisor; an off-duty cop who happened to be bringing his daughter to school that day points his gun at the shooter, holding him until more police arrive. Total dead: Two.
Pearl High School, Mississippi, 1997: After shooting several people at his high school, student heads for the junior high school; assistant principal Joel Myrick retrieves a .45 pistol from his car and points it at the gunmans head, ending the murder spree. Total dead: Two.
Edinboro, Pa., 1998: A student shoots up a junior high school dance being held at a restaurant; restaurant owner pulls out his shotgun and stops the gunman. Total dead: One.
Ignorant and corrupt?
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I'm a gun owner. I have my concealed carrying permit. It goes with me everywhere I go. You never know what kind of person you are going to run in to.
Crime is never going away and I'd rather be able to defend myself and family in a time of distress if needed.
Even if guns did not exist, other forms of weapons would. Remember the 'anthrax in your mailbox' scares? I think guns are the least of my worries right now. I'm more concerned about public idiots creating airborne -invisible to human eye- weapons.
Crime is never going away and I'd rather be able to defend myself and family in a time of distress if needed.
Even if guns did not exist, other forms of weapons would. Remember the 'anthrax in your mailbox' scares? I think guns are the least of my worries right now. I'm more concerned about public idiots creating airborne -invisible to human eye- weapons.
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No you shouldn't
Here in Australia we have extremely strict gun laws and the only shootings that happen in Australia are in major multi cultural cities like Sydney and Melbourne due to gang violence. they get there weapons illegally.
Every year we always hear about a shooting massacre in America. It's time they sort themselves out, stop being "it's in the consitution" blah blah blah.
Simple, America should have stricter gun laws.
Here in Australia we have extremely strict gun laws and the only shootings that happen in Australia are in major multi cultural cities like Sydney and Melbourne due to gang violence. they get there weapons illegally.
Every year we always hear about a shooting massacre in America. It's time they sort themselves out, stop being "it's in the consitution" blah blah blah.
Simple, America should have stricter gun laws.
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-Totti- wrote No you shouldn't
Here in Australia we have extremely strict gun laws and the only shootings that happen in Australia are in major multi cultural cities like Sydney and Melbourne due to gang violence. they get there weapons illegally.
Every year we always hear about a shooting massacre in America. It's time they sort themselves out, stop being "it's in the consitution" blah blah blah.
Simple, America should have stricter gun laws.
You can't compare the gun ownership rates and policies in different countries. Per your argument, shouldn't Switzerland have a high rate of gun crime?
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Gun restrictions are ineffective and you're blaming the car for the crash. Psychological health programs and good guys with guns stop gun violence.
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-Totti- wrote Here in Australia we have extremely strict gun laws and the only shootings that happen in Australia are in major multi cultural cities like Sydney and Melbourne due to gang violence. they get there weapons illegally.
And in America all the gun violence is done by people with legitimate rights to fire-arms? Gang violence and illegal weapon trade isn't restricted to just any one country. Drugs and Weapons are daily making their way into America through all borders. You can have all the restrictions you want - up to downright abolishing them and still they will exist.
To me, saying "stricter gun laws" is an invalid argument.
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I can see the positives and negatives of both sides but if I had to choose id say no
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Personally I think you should be able to have one to DEFEND and PROTECT your self from harms way like robbery if someone else tries to stab you or something else but then there are those **** weirdos that go around killing innocent children and other people shooting other people then America ( assuming this is about it ) wonders why there are so many **** SHOOTINGS because you're practically giving these guns out for free and they're not toys the KILL people I mean I'm not sure if some of these people that have them or weirdos that have them know what they're capable of thats why I do not believe that you should be able to bear arms because all people do is go around killing people then its all over the news and massive discussions everywhere about banning these things the cycle is like this:
Shooting > News > Government discuss banning weapons > Government chose not to Repeat <
And thats why I dont think guns should be legal to citizens like I live in Australia and there are so many laws that protect people and protect the countries, please go ahead and list on 2 hands the amount of mass shootings / killings / bombings I bet you can NOT list them on your hands for Australia. Now you look at America and its like everything is legal and I do NOT agree with the laws in America apart from the Death Sentence and the listing of pedophiles / sickos in the area with the sign one. Aaannd yeah so I dont agree with guns in merica'
Shooting > News > Government discuss banning weapons > Government chose not to Repeat <
And thats why I dont think guns should be legal to citizens like I live in Australia and there are so many laws that protect people and protect the countries, please go ahead and list on 2 hands the amount of mass shootings / killings / bombings I bet you can NOT list them on your hands for Australia. Now you look at America and its like everything is legal and I do NOT agree with the laws in America apart from the Death Sentence and the listing of pedophiles / sickos in the area with the sign one. Aaannd yeah so I dont agree with guns in merica'
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I_Sold_A_Fatkid wroteAquaGeo wrote I don't think so, America do and I hear far too many masacres and shootings there after a psycho took a 2 day gun course and picked up a gun and shot whoever they pleaseread this [ Register or Signin to view external links. ]
0.0 Gun massacres with no guns.
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