germinus wrote Just read this on the support forum before the sh1ts deleted it and thought it was a really good post so wanted to share it, be warned its very long ( the post that is ).

Constructive feedback; Money, glitching and a little bit of whinging.

So obviously we are all getting a little upset over how hard it is to earn in-game money, vehicles going missing with recent updates and all that goes with it.

I guess you just need to look at this from R*'s perspective. Not only is this one of the best games ever made (in my opinion), but it is also a huge money making opportunity for R*, and essentially, that's why games are created. It is business.

I'll admit, although it is frowned upon, I've looked for glitches everywhere. I can't race well, or aim for s---, I have not been able to get from A to B in a stolen Blista Compact without being shot down, and all I really want to do online is be a female character and be able to drive around in a Z-Type and pretend to be Cruella Deville, or drive around in a Cheetah and pretend it's the Batmobile. I want the fun 'rare' cars that I can drive around with my friends in and do stupid things.

I guess that's where there is a separation between those who perhaps have the opportunity to sit all day and play and earn money and level up and live the game as a second life, and those who really just want to have a bit of fun and show off and collect and create amazing modified cars, without having to sit there for weeks on end just to level up to unlock a certain bumper, or to afford the car similar to that in Britney Spears recent video clip.

Whether we are serious about playing or not, we should respect (although it is a frustration to consumers, but a gold mine gimmick for business) the fact that it IS a money making scheme, and that is what we have to deal with if we want to play, and advance in the game.

But the issue for me lies here, we can buy all the money we can afford with the shark cards, but when we have to level up to 60+, and spend all that time doing so anyway, to unlock pieces (or 'customisations') we want to buy, and in turn almost earning that cash regardless, which in most cases (if you are buying shark cards because you are lazy and just want to have fun) (hi), It all becomes rather pointless. Perhaps a suggestion (if this is the road R* insists on taking their fans down), could be that we have the option to buy packs that include some cash, special cars, a bunch of customisations, and just general 'unlocks' that are also available to be unlocked for those who are happy to spend the hours and hours at a time in front of the game, rather than just being able to purchase in-game money (to be wasted on ammo, body armour etc to get up to these high levels) (but again, gold mine idea), then there would be a little more fairness in the transactions.

I've bought honestly, and played GTA since the very first game, and this is now what it has come to; At the end of the day, GTA has gone from a fun game of muck arounds, to a virtual addictive waste of money comparison to FarmVille, throwing away real life money into a digital world on our gaming systems, the gaming systems we bought for a release, so we really could just go to have some fun. The money, the repetitive effort and the time that has to go into this game to get the most simple things out of it is just... unfortunately it is on the side of the scale closer to the ground this time around.
I know people will probably say 'just play the single player mode then', but that's not the point Im trying to make. This is not a 'game' anymore. It's made incredibly well, it is brilliant, but the online option could have been the most amazing thing to happen to the gta, and instead, it's just something that has sucked in the fans of such a brilliant enterprise, and unfortunately, it seems a lot of those fans are starting to turn around.
All Im trying to say (which I probably could have done in one sentence without the theatrics), let us have fun with the masterpiece you have created. Throw us a few bones. I mean, is this the last GTA game there is going to be? Is this your last grab for everyones money? We're coming back, we love this game, we'll buy the next one, and the next one too, but don't take advantage of us and suck us dry just because we want to enjoy the newer, more advanced version of the game we love. It's too much. You have those who are going to play and play and play to achieve, you have those who are going to impulse buy some shark cards just to get ahead, and you have those who are just going to say 'f that', and walk away.
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Really good post which I thought deserved to be read even if R* want to delete it, they really p1ss me off, he was actually being nice about them!!