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Feels wrote
BUC-Chad wrote
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BUC-Chad wrote .... stop coin selling fullstop, aka give all your money to EASports to open packs with "points" and receive horrible players and minimal coin return. Great idea.... not. Coin selling rarely effects the markets. Autobuying and glitches do.


You're a coin seller, you're obviously going to be pro-coin selling. Fact is, ever since FIFA 12, coin selling has become a more dominant market. Ever since then, players prices have inflated because there are too many coins on the market.


These coins (non-glitched) are already on the market.. so coin selling does not inflate the market actually. As I've said its glitched coins and autobuyers that either A) keep the prices high for players, or B) inflate the market with coins. Coin sellers merely move coins around the market..... Prove me wrong, you cant. Coin selling has increased yes, BUT the overall game has increased in popularity SIGNIFICANTLY since then. In FIFA 12, EA did 108million in digital sales, in FIFA 13, they did over 300 million.... It's not coin sellers that are inflating the market plain and simple.


How do most coin sellers earn their money? I've heard most of them use autobuyers...


A lot of them either Buy coins from other players, or use autobuyers.
These two methods DO NOT bring inflation to the market, they merely move coins around.

Glitching coins however is what causes issues. There is one known glitch method that does work and has worked for several iterations of FIFA.

We currently utilize autobuyers for our site, it nets us a steady profit daily, however it doesn't inflate the market.

You have to understand the significant increase in players on Ultimate Team will lead to a massive influx of coins plain and simple.
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BUC-Chad wrote
Feels wrote
BUC-Chad wrote
Feels wrote
BUC-Chad wrote .... stop coin selling fullstop, aka give all your money to EASports to open packs with "points" and receive horrible players and minimal coin return. Great idea.... not. Coin selling rarely effects the markets. Autobuying and glitches do.


You're a coin seller, you're obviously going to be pro-coin selling. Fact is, ever since FIFA 12, coin selling has become a more dominant market. Ever since then, players prices have inflated because there are too many coins on the market.


These coins (non-glitched) are already on the market.. so coin selling does not inflate the market actually. As I've said its glitched coins and autobuyers that either A) keep the prices high for players, or B) inflate the market with coins. Coin sellers merely move coins around the market..... Prove me wrong, you cant. Coin selling has increased yes, BUT the overall game has increased in popularity SIGNIFICANTLY since then. In FIFA 12, EA did 108million in digital sales, in FIFA 13, they did over 300 million.... It's not coin sellers that are inflating the market plain and simple.


How do most coin sellers earn their money? I've heard most of them use autobuyers...


A lot of them either Buy coins from other players, or use autobuyers.
These two methods DO NOT bring inflation to the market, they merely move coins around.

Glitching coins however is what causes issues. There is one known glitch method that does work and has worked for several iterations of FIFA.

We currently utilize autobuyers for our site, it nets us a steady profit daily, however it doesn't inflate the market.

You have to understand the significant increase in players on Ultimate Team will lead to a massive influx of coins plain and simple.


You literally just said it yourself that autobuyers cause the prices of players to inflate... contradiction much.

Sure, I can understand the increase of actual players causing prices to inflate a little, but not to the extent at what they have inflated to. Players like Ibrahimovic and Ribery have gone from 50K to 800K+ in 2 games... they shouldn't have increased that dramatically. I understand other small factors come into play, I just think that coin sellers are the main reason why cards have inflated as much as they have.
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Feels wrote
BUC-Chad wrote
Feels wrote
BUC-Chad wrote
Feels wrote
BUC-Chad wrote .... stop coin selling fullstop, aka give all your money to EASports to open packs with "points" and receive horrible players and minimal coin return. Great idea.... not. Coin selling rarely effects the markets. Autobuying and glitches do.


You're a coin seller, you're obviously going to be pro-coin selling. Fact is, ever since FIFA 12, coin selling has become a more dominant market. Ever since then, players prices have inflated because there are too many coins on the market.


These coins (non-glitched) are already on the market.. so coin selling does not inflate the market actually. As I've said its glitched coins and autobuyers that either A) keep the prices high for players, or B) inflate the market with coins. Coin sellers merely move coins around the market..... Prove me wrong, you cant. Coin selling has increased yes, BUT the overall game has increased in popularity SIGNIFICANTLY since then. In FIFA 12, EA did 108million in digital sales, in FIFA 13, they did over 300 million.... It's not coin sellers that are inflating the market plain and simple.


How do most coin sellers earn their money? I've heard most of them use autobuyers...


A lot of them either Buy coins from other players, or use autobuyers.
These two methods DO NOT bring inflation to the market, they merely move coins around.

Glitching coins however is what causes issues. There is one known glitch method that does work and has worked for several iterations of FIFA.

We currently utilize autobuyers for our site, it nets us a steady profit daily, however it doesn't inflate the market.

You have to understand the significant increase in players on Ultimate Team will lead to a massive influx of coins plain and simple.


You literally just said it yourself that autobuyers cause the prices of players to inflate... contradiction much.

Sure, I can understand the increase of actual players causing prices to inflate a little, but not to the extent at what they have inflated to. Players like Ibrahimovic and Ribery have gone from 50K to 800K+ in 2 games... they shouldn't have increased that dramatically. I understand other small factors come into play, I just think that coin sellers are the main reason why cards have inflated as much as they have.


I never stated autobuyers inflate the market at all. autobuyers keep the prices of players high... in some cases they benefit the general public by regulating the market automatically.

Glitched coins cause the inflation for sure.

Coin sellers would have no actual method to inflate card prices... Glitched coins are a massive reason, however a bigger reason is the sheer amount of players playing ultimate team compared to previous years.

Have you seen the players increase in price value steadily from Ultimate Team's inception to where its at currently? of course... why? because A LOT more people are playing the game.
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BUC-Chad wrote
Feels wrote
BUC-Chad wrote
Feels wrote
BUC-Chad wrote
Feels wrote
BUC-Chad wrote .... stop coin selling fullstop, aka give all your money to EASports to open packs with "points" and receive horrible players and minimal coin return. Great idea.... not. Coin selling rarely effects the markets. Autobuying and glitches do.


You're a coin seller, you're obviously going to be pro-coin selling. Fact is, ever since FIFA 12, coin selling has become a more dominant market. Ever since then, players prices have inflated because there are too many coins on the market.


These coins (non-glitched) are already on the market.. so coin selling does not inflate the market actually. As I've said its glitched coins and autobuyers that either A) keep the prices high for players, or B) inflate the market with coins. Coin sellers merely move coins around the market..... Prove me wrong, you cant. Coin selling has increased yes, BUT the overall game has increased in popularity SIGNIFICANTLY since then. In FIFA 12, EA did 108million in digital sales, in FIFA 13, they did over 300 million.... It's not coin sellers that are inflating the market plain and simple.


How do most coin sellers earn their money? I've heard most of them use autobuyers...


A lot of them either Buy coins from other players, or use autobuyers.
These two methods DO NOT bring inflation to the market, they merely move coins around.

Glitching coins however is what causes issues. There is one known glitch method that does work and has worked for several iterations of FIFA.

We currently utilize autobuyers for our site, it nets us a steady profit daily, however it doesn't inflate the market.

You have to understand the significant increase in players on Ultimate Team will lead to a massive influx of coins plain and simple.


You literally just said it yourself that autobuyers cause the prices of players to inflate... contradiction much.

Sure, I can understand the increase of actual players causing prices to inflate a little, but not to the extent at what they have inflated to. Players like Ibrahimovic and Ribery have gone from 50K to 800K+ in 2 games... they shouldn't have increased that dramatically. I understand other small factors come into play, I just think that coin sellers are the main reason why cards have inflated as much as they have.


I never stated autobuyers inflate the market at all. autobuyers keep the prices of players high... in some cases they benefit the general public by regulating the market automatically.

Glitched coins cause the inflation for sure.

Coin sellers would have no actual method to inflate card prices... Glitched coins are a massive reason, however a bigger reason is the sheer amount of players playing ultimate team compared to previous years.

Have you seen the players increase in price value steadily from Ultimate Team's inception to where its at currently? of course... why? because A LOT more people are playing the game.


It is EASIER TO OBTAIN COINS DUE TO COINSELLERS. Therefore, coinsellers inflate the market. The reason players prices were so low is BECAUSE COINS WERE HARDER TO COME BY. Connect those two sentences and emphasize the bolded statements. You have just been proven wrong.
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[quote="ThatPandaGuy"]
BUC-Chad wrote
Feels wrote
BUC-Chad wrote
Feels wrote
BUC-Chad wrote
Feels wrote
BUC-Chad wrote .... stop coin selling fullstop, aka give all your money to EASports to open packs with "points" and receive horrible players and minimal coin return. Great idea.... not. Coin selling rarely effects the markets. Autobuying and glitches do.


You're a coin seller, you're obviously going to be pro-coin selling. Fact is, ever since FIFA 12, coin selling has become a more dominant market. Ever since then, players prices have inflated because there are too many coins on the market.


These coins (non-glitched) are already on the market.. so coin selling does not inflate the market actually. As I've said its glitched coins and autobuyers that either A) keep the prices high for players, or B) inflate the market with coins. Coin sellers merely move coins around the market..... Prove me wrong, you cant. Coin selling has increased yes, BUT the overall game has increased in popularity SIGNIFICANTLY since then. In FIFA 12, EA did 108million in digital sales, in FIFA 13, they did over 300 million.... It's not coin sellers that are inflating the market plain and simple.


How do most coin sellers earn their money? I've heard most of them use autobuyers...


A lot of them either Buy coins from other players, or use autobuyers.
These two methods DO NOT bring inflation to the market, they merely move coins around.

Glitching coins however is what causes issues. There is one known glitch method that does work and has worked for several iterations of FIFA.

We currently utilize autobuyers for our site, it nets us a steady profit daily, however it doesn't inflate the market.

You have to understand the significant increase in players on Ultimate Team will lead to a massive influx of coins plain and simple.


You literally just said it yourself that autobuyers cause the prices of players to inflate... contradiction much.

Sure, I can understand the increase of actual players causing prices to inflate a little, but not to the extent at what they have inflated to. Players like Ibrahimovic and Ribery have gone from 50K to 800K+ in 2 games... they shouldn't have increased that dramatically. I understand other small factors come into play, I just think that coin sellers are the main reason why cards have inflated as much as they have.


I never stated autobuyers inflate the market at all. autobuyers keep the prices of players high... in some cases they benefit the general public by regulating the market automatically.

Glitched coins cause the inflation for sure.

Coin sellers would have no actual method to inflate card prices... Glitched coins are a massive reason, however a bigger reason is the sheer amount of players playing ultimate team compared to previous years.

Have you seen the players increase in price value steadily from Ultimate Team's inception to where its at currently? of course... why? because A LOT more people are playing the game.


It is EASIER TO OBTAIN COINS DUE TO COINSELLERS. Therefore, coinsellers inflate the market. The reason players prices were so low is BECAUSE COINS WERE HARDER TO COME BY. Connect those two sentences and emphasize the bolded statements. You have just been proven wrong.[/quote


Exactly! well said, coin sellers undercut each other all the time making it easy to buy 100K for like 5 dollars/pounds. There's no way that these coin sellers are getting legit coins, c'mon from the first day of release there were people with 1 million coins on the leaderboards. not even an autobuyer can generate that much coins in so little time. They are obviously glitched coins. Therefore coin sellers are effectively solely responsible for inflated prices for ribery, bale, etc.

Without people buying coins, I guarantee Ronaldo's, Messi's would be under a million, because although people would continue to list them for ridiculous prices, sooner or later ppl get the hint (ex: price fix fails) and drop the price significantly by undercutting.


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[quote="X-Pac"]
ThatPandaGuy wrote
BUC-Chad wrote
Feels wrote
BUC-Chad wrote
Feels wrote
BUC-Chad wrote
Feels wrote
BUC-Chad wrote .... stop coin selling fullstop, aka give all your money to EASports to open packs with "points" and receive horrible players and minimal coin return. Great idea.... not. Coin selling rarely effects the markets. Autobuying and glitches do.


You're a coin seller, you're obviously going to be pro-coin selling. Fact is, ever since FIFA 12, coin selling has become a more dominant market. Ever since then, players prices have inflated because there are too many coins on the market.


These coins (non-glitched) are already on the market.. so coin selling does not inflate the market actually. As I've said its glitched coins and autobuyers that either A) keep the prices high for players, or B) inflate the market with coins. Coin sellers merely move coins around the market..... Prove me wrong, you cant. Coin selling has increased yes, BUT the overall game has increased in popularity SIGNIFICANTLY since then. In FIFA 12, EA did 108million in digital sales, in FIFA 13, they did over 300 million.... It's not coin sellers that are inflating the market plain and simple.


How do most coin sellers earn their money? I've heard most of them use autobuyers...


A lot of them either Buy coins from other players, or use autobuyers.
These two methods DO NOT bring inflation to the market, they merely move coins around.

Glitching coins however is what causes issues. There is one known glitch method that does work and has worked for several iterations of FIFA.

We currently utilize autobuyers for our site, it nets us a steady profit daily, however it doesn't inflate the market.

You have to understand the significant increase in players on Ultimate Team will lead to a massive influx of coins plain and simple.


You literally just said it yourself that autobuyers cause the prices of players to inflate... contradiction much.

Sure, I can understand the increase of actual players causing prices to inflate a little, but not to the extent at what they have inflated to. Players like Ibrahimovic and Ribery have gone from 50K to 800K+ in 2 games... they shouldn't have increased that dramatically. I understand other small factors come into play, I just think that coin sellers are the main reason why cards have inflated as much as they have.


I never stated autobuyers inflate the market at all. autobuyers keep the prices of players high... in some cases they benefit the general public by regulating the market automatically.

Glitched coins cause the inflation for sure.

Coin sellers would have no actual method to inflate card prices... Glitched coins are a massive reason, however a bigger reason is the sheer amount of players playing ultimate team compared to previous years.

Have you seen the players increase in price value steadily from Ultimate Team's inception to where its at currently? of course... why? because A LOT more people are playing the game.


It is EASIER TO OBTAIN COINS DUE TO COINSELLERS. Therefore, coinsellers inflate the market. The reason players prices were so low is BECAUSE COINS WERE HARDER TO COME BY. Connect those two sentences and emphasize the bolded statements. You have just been proven wrong.[/quote


Exactly! well said, coin sellers undercut each other all the time making it easy to buy 100K for like 5 dollars/pounds. There's no way that these coin sellers are getting legit coins, c'mon from the first day of release there were people with 1 million coins on the leaderboards. not even an autobuyer can generate that much coins in so little time. They are obviously glitched coins. Therefore coin sellers are effectively solely responsible for ribery, bale, etc.

Without people buying coins, I guarantee Ronaldo's, Messi's would be under a million, because although people would continue to list them for ridiculous prices, sooner or later ppl get the hint (ex: price fix fails) and drop the price significantly by undercutting.


This is one big ass quote
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its just alot more logical to buy 80$ worth of coins to get 1 mil, then to buy 12k fifa points and get say 150k worth of coins, ive gone through quite alot of fifa points this fifa and my luck has been awful and has made me change to buying coins to even compete in the game and have as good as teams.
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ThatPandaGuy wrote
BUC-Chad wrote
Feels wrote
BUC-Chad wrote
Feels wrote
BUC-Chad wrote
Feels wrote
BUC-Chad wrote .... stop coin selling fullstop, aka give all your money to EASports to open packs with "points" and receive horrible players and minimal coin return. Great idea.... not. Coin selling rarely effects the markets. Autobuying and glitches do.


You're a coin seller, you're obviously going to be pro-coin selling. Fact is, ever since FIFA 12, coin selling has become a more dominant market. Ever since then, players prices have inflated because there are too many coins on the market.


These coins (non-glitched) are already on the market.. so coin selling does not inflate the market actually. As I've said its glitched coins and autobuyers that either A) keep the prices high for players, or B) inflate the market with coins. Coin sellers merely move coins around the market..... Prove me wrong, you cant. Coin selling has increased yes, BUT the overall game has increased in popularity SIGNIFICANTLY since then. In FIFA 12, EA did 108million in digital sales, in FIFA 13, they did over 300 million.... It's not coin sellers that are inflating the market plain and simple.


How do most coin sellers earn their money? I've heard most of them use autobuyers...


A lot of them either Buy coins from other players, or use autobuyers.
These two methods DO NOT bring inflation to the market, they merely move coins around.

Glitching coins however is what causes issues. There is one known glitch method that does work and has worked for several iterations of FIFA.

We currently utilize autobuyers for our site, it nets us a steady profit daily, however it doesn't inflate the market.

You have to understand the significant increase in players on Ultimate Team will lead to a massive influx of coins plain and simple.


You literally just said it yourself that autobuyers cause the prices of players to inflate... contradiction much.

Sure, I can understand the increase of actual players causing prices to inflate a little, but not to the extent at what they have inflated to. Players like Ibrahimovic and Ribery have gone from 50K to 800K+ in 2 games... they shouldn't have increased that dramatically. I understand other small factors come into play, I just think that coin sellers are the main reason why cards have inflated as much as they have.


I never stated autobuyers inflate the market at all. autobuyers keep the prices of players high... in some cases they benefit the general public by regulating the market automatically.

Glitched coins cause the inflation for sure.

Coin sellers would have no actual method to inflate card prices... Glitched coins are a massive reason, however a bigger reason is the sheer amount of players playing ultimate team compared to previous years.

Have you seen the players increase in price value steadily from Ultimate Team's inception to where its at currently? of course... why? because A LOT more people are playing the game.


It is EASIER TO OBTAIN COINS DUE TO COINSELLERS. Therefore, coinsellers inflate the market. The reason players prices were so low is BECAUSE COINS WERE HARDER TO COME BY. Connect those two sentences and emphasize the bolded statements. You have just been proven wrong.


Coin Sellers do not inflate the market.... They move coins around between accounts plain and simple. As I've stated numerous times, what inflates the market are glitches like the consumable glitch, and the current match earnings glitch. Coins being harder to come by does not mean the coins were not available.. they were, however they were in another individuals account.

Look at it this way.

I have 500k coins, I sell those coins to a coin site for a small fee... That coin site sells those 500k coins to someone else. Is the market inflated? No, its not.

I see where you're coming from saying that coin sellers make coins more easily accessible, and you're correct, but accessibility and inflation are two different things. The coins already existed... they just weren't on your own personal account.

As I've also already stated previously, there are WAY more people playing FIFA 14 than there was in FIFA 13, and in FIFA 12... It's quite evident from the revenues from digital sales EA Sports had. 108million for FIFA 12, over 300 million for FIFA 13...

Coin sellers do not inflate the market plain and simple... Glitches do. Do coin sellers make accessibility to coins much easier, of course... but that is not what we're talking about at all. More coins are also on the market from the sheer amount of packs being opened as well.
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Are there actually legit autobuyers? I always thought it was just people saying it to get login details.
#50. Posted:
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TTG_MOUSE wrote Are there actually legit autobuyers? I always thought it was just people saying it to get login details.


There are several public ones, there are also numerous private ones. They do exist, but anyone offering them for extremely cheap amounts is most likely scamming.
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