Rap-Pup wrote

ShadowBoltDashie wrote

Rap-Pup wrote I don't know if this will start WW3 because who would ally with russia? we have the EU countries with us and korea, and russia hates china, so they really have no allies

You do know China is Russia's ally right? Yeah they have had disputes with borders and what not, but China is still Russia's ally, and on top of that, Russia and China are in an agreement with what's going on with Ukraine. For Korea, South Korea is America's ally and North Korea is China's ally (though I don't even think China really cares about North Korea since they didn't want anything to do with them during that whole "North Korea is going to nuke the US" stuff.)

North Korea isn't that powerful either, and i think a WW3 would just be a stalemate cold war type of thing, especially because china doesn't have the best air and naval forces

I agree with North Korea not being that powerful, truthfully I don't even really think any of their "allies" would really protect North Korea. However I don't think this will turn into a WW3 or anything like that, I know it's getting serious, but a lot of people have been jumping the gun with this, thinking there's going to be nukes involved and a lot of people are thinking it's going to be a WW3. I don't see it turning into a WW3, just to me, every time something happens that is serious, people instantly jump on the WW3 bandwagon. Hate to use North Korea as an example again, but when that stuff was going on with them, people were all saying WW3 is going to happen, nuclear war and all this, and it didn't happen.

Rap-Pup wrote and russia hates china

China is Russia's biggest/best ally....

I agree with BigWes, this may start a World War III, this isn't going very well. Thanks for making this topic so everyone can talk under this one.

Medkits wrote I agree with BigWes, this may start a World War III, this isn't going very well. Thanks for making this topic so everyone can talk under this one.

i hears the troops left, might have been just to show that Russia has power or something might have even been a war game lol.

This is long but watch it!

Kia wrote

xsuperxsmashx wrote Having come to my senses, i now believe that Putin only sent the troops in to defend the russians already living in ukraine. This is because so far the ukranians have lied about receiving orders to surrender, and they were the ones who asked for the russian troops to intervene in the first place. The western media is stirring up trouble and trying to make us believe that Putin is the bad man blah blah. Most of the pictures that have come out of ukraine show that the residents are happy to see the russian troops!

Right, and Hitler went into Austria just to protect ethnic Germans.
Ukraine was on the verge of solving their problems, now Russian influence is being forced on the politics of the country, it was their problem to choose whether to go east or west, and Putin didn't like his chances.

So according to your logic Obama and Cameron can be compared to Hitler because they also invaded other countries and killed innocent people? RIGHT! Ukraine was never on the verge of solving its problems, hence why the people were rioting. Putin only sent in 6000 troops which is hardly enough to start a war now is it? also he has a sea base to defend as well as over 8 million russians who are living in ukraine. I dont even know what your talking about with the last bit.

Putin thinks its's Call of Duty In real life xD

xsuperxsmashx wrote

Kia wrote

xsuperxsmashx wrote Having come to my senses, i now believe that Putin only sent the troops in to defend the russians already living in ukraine. This is because so far the ukranians have lied about receiving orders to surrender, and they were the ones who asked for the russian troops to intervene in the first place. The western media is stirring up trouble and trying to make us believe that Putin is the bad man blah blah. Most of the pictures that have come out of ukraine show that the residents are happy to see the russian troops!

Right, and Hitler went into Austria just to protect ethnic Germans.
Ukraine was on the verge of solving their problems, now Russian influence is being forced on the politics of the country, it was their problem to choose whether to go east or west, and Putin didn't like his chances.

So according to your logic Obama and Cameron can be compared to Hitler because they also invaded other countries and killed innocent people? RIGHT! Ukraine was never on the verge of solving its problems, hence why the people were rioting. Putin only sent in 6000 troops which is hardly enough to start a war now is it? also he has a sea base to defend as well as over 8 million russians who are living in ukraine. I dont even know what your talking about with the last bit.

No, because Obama and Cameron didn't invade countries to protect ethnic English or American people living in them, which is what Putin has done here, and Hitler did just before WW2.
Ukraine had ousted the previous president, and were getting ready to set up a new leader, which could have easily solved their problems.
It doesn't matter how many troops he sent in, it's why he sent them in.
I didn't say he was trying to start a war, he's trying to own Ukraine again, which, once again is what Hitler wanted to do with Austria.
If you seriously think that Putin has gone into Ukraine for the sole reason of protecting Russians and his sea base then I feel sorry for you.

Kia wrote

xsuperxsmashx wrote

Kia wrote

xsuperxsmashx wrote Having come to my senses, i now believe that Putin only sent the troops in to defend the russians already living in ukraine. This is because so far the ukranians have lied about receiving orders to surrender, and they were the ones who asked for the russian troops to intervene in the first place. The western media is stirring up trouble and trying to make us believe that Putin is the bad man blah blah. Most of the pictures that have come out of ukraine show that the residents are happy to see the russian troops!

Right, and Hitler went into Austria just to protect ethnic Germans.
Ukraine was on the verge of solving their problems, now Russian influence is being forced on the politics of the country, it was their problem to choose whether to go east or west, and Putin didn't like his chances.

So according to your logic Obama and Cameron can be compared to Hitler because they also invaded other countries and killed innocent people? RIGHT! Ukraine was never on the verge of solving its problems, hence why the people were rioting. Putin only sent in 6000 troops which is hardly enough to start a war now is it? also he has a sea base to defend as well as over 8 million russians who are living in ukraine. I dont even know what your talking about with the last bit.

No, because Obama and Cameron didn't invade countries to protect ethnic English or American people living in them, which is what Putin has done here, and Hitler did just before WW2.
Ukraine had ousted the previous president, and were getting ready to set up a new leader, which could have easily solved their problems.
It doesn't matter how many troops he sent in, it's why he sent them in.
I didn't say he was trying to start a war, he's trying to own Ukraine again, which, once again is what Hitler wanted to do with Austria.
If you seriously think that Putin has gone into Ukraine for the sole reason of protecting Russians and his sea base then I feel sorry for you.

It has been a week since Putin sent the troops in, he cannot start a war with only 6000 troops against Ukraine's 100k+. In december Putin cut the cost of gas for the Ukrainians, so why would he go to start a war? The Russians are protecting their military bases and people and this is a legitimate use of force. Russia is using the correct amount of force balanced with the correct amount of diplomacy hence no war which the Ukrainians and its allies aka the west are trying to start so badly. Like Putin said, the west is just using propaganda to make it look like Russia is the bad country when they have no evidence. You tell me why else they would be there?

xsuperxsmashx wrote

Kia wrote

xsuperxsmashx wrote

Kia wrote

xsuperxsmashx wrote Having come to my senses, i now believe that Putin only sent the troops in to defend the russians already living in ukraine. This is because so far the ukranians have lied about receiving orders to surrender, and they were the ones who asked for the russian troops to intervene in the first place. The western media is stirring up trouble and trying to make us believe that Putin is the bad man blah blah. Most of the pictures that have come out of ukraine show that the residents are happy to see the russian troops!

Right, and Hitler went into Austria just to protect ethnic Germans.
Ukraine was on the verge of solving their problems, now Russian influence is being forced on the politics of the country, it was their problem to choose whether to go east or west, and Putin didn't like his chances.

So according to your logic Obama and Cameron can be compared to Hitler because they also invaded other countries and killed innocent people? RIGHT! Ukraine was never on the verge of solving its problems, hence why the people were rioting. Putin only sent in 6000 troops which is hardly enough to start a war now is it? also he has a sea base to defend as well as over 8 million russians who are living in ukraine. I dont even know what your talking about with the last bit.

No, because Obama and Cameron didn't invade countries to protect ethnic English or American people living in them, which is what Putin has done here, and Hitler did just before WW2.
Ukraine had ousted the previous president, and were getting ready to set up a new leader, which could have easily solved their problems.
It doesn't matter how many troops he sent in, it's why he sent them in.
I didn't say he was trying to start a war, he's trying to own Ukraine again, which, once again is what Hitler wanted to do with Austria.
If you seriously think that Putin has gone into Ukraine for the sole reason of protecting Russians and his sea base then I feel sorry for you.

It has been a week since Putin sent the troops in, he cannot start a war with only 6000 troops against Ukraine's 100k+. In december Putin cut the cost of gas for the Ukrainians, so why would he go to start a war? The Russians are protecting their military bases and people and this is a legitimate use of force. Russia is using the correct amount of force balanced with the correct amount of diplomacy hence no war which the Ukrainians and its allies aka the west are trying to start so badly. Like Putin said, the west is just using propaganda to make it look like Russia is the bad country when they have no evidence. You tell me why else they would be there?

I've already told you why.
He wants more control over Ukraine. That's it.
You don't need enough troops to start a war to put political pressure on a country, and Putin is proving that right now.
You are the one bringing up him trying to start a war, not me.
I've said nothing about him trying to start a war.

The west only got truly invested in what was happening in Ukraine when he invaded, so how are the west trying to start a war when the UK has already said that no military action is being considered and only economic sanctions are?