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don't get me wrong, i love how Vegans are able to give up so much to save lives of animals but sometimes they seem to be a bit extreme. the woman below says in her video that all people who eat meat should not have the right to live.
Please watch the video before commenting as it kinda shows a lot about what I'm talking about, skim reading doesn't work here.
Now i do respect how Vegan's are changing the planet but this woman sounds like someone familiar. she doesn't like certain people for the way they choose to live and says they shouldn't have the right to live because of it. now lets think of someone who thought reasonably the same about a race of people, someone who then got power. yeah that's right Hitler.
how can people who say everything on earth should be equal.. think like this, trying to look at this as non stereo typical of course.
now I'l probably get yelled at for that comparison, but it's true. I'm not saying all Vegans are like her by any means but it seems a lot of them do seem to support her through her youtube channel.
i was arguing with a supporter this morning and he seriously compared the eating of animals after giving them a good life the same as raping someone... what. I make sure all of the meat i eat is from fairly bread animals, because that seems right doesn't it?
but nope, apparently i still deserve to die because i choose to eat meat.
well you know what, i just had a bacon sandwich and I'm not dead. Nor would anyone execute me for eating it. so it's all dry threats to me.
so what do you guys think, are some going... just too far?
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Please watch the video before commenting as it kinda shows a lot about what I'm talking about, skim reading doesn't work here.
Now i do respect how Vegan's are changing the planet but this woman sounds like someone familiar. she doesn't like certain people for the way they choose to live and says they shouldn't have the right to live because of it. now lets think of someone who thought reasonably the same about a race of people, someone who then got power. yeah that's right Hitler.
how can people who say everything on earth should be equal.. think like this, trying to look at this as non stereo typical of course.
now I'l probably get yelled at for that comparison, but it's true. I'm not saying all Vegans are like her by any means but it seems a lot of them do seem to support her through her youtube channel.
i was arguing with a supporter this morning and he seriously compared the eating of animals after giving them a good life the same as raping someone... what. I make sure all of the meat i eat is from fairly bread animals, because that seems right doesn't it?
but nope, apparently i still deserve to die because i choose to eat meat.
well you know what, i just had a bacon sandwich and I'm not dead. Nor would anyone execute me for eating it. so it's all dry threats to me.
so what do you guys think, are some going... just too far?
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It seems like you're straw manning her actual points and are focusing on her obvious hyperbole.
She pretty much recants her call for genocide at the end when she says she doesn't want to kill anyone.
You're focusing on one line which was obviously said off the cuff and wasn't really thought through out of a 3 and a half minute video.
Not only that but you're then applying her hyperbole to all vegans. Of course some vegans go too far, there are people who go too far in every group of people.
I'm sure I could find a brony who wants all non-bronies killed if I tried hard enough.
To be completely honest, even if she did genuinely think that all non-vegans should be slaughtered you haven't really provided a rebuttal.
You've vindicated Godwin's Law and pointed out some vague inconsistency in your stereotyped, 'all vegans think everything should be equal' view which might not exist in her beliefs.
She pretty much recants her call for genocide at the end when she says she doesn't want to kill anyone.
You're focusing on one line which was obviously said off the cuff and wasn't really thought through out of a 3 and a half minute video.
Not only that but you're then applying her hyperbole to all vegans. Of course some vegans go too far, there are people who go too far in every group of people.
I'm sure I could find a brony who wants all non-bronies killed if I tried hard enough.
To be completely honest, even if she did genuinely think that all non-vegans should be slaughtered you haven't really provided a rebuttal.
You've vindicated Godwin's Law and pointed out some vague inconsistency in your stereotyped, 'all vegans think everything should be equal' view which might not exist in her beliefs.
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ManWithNoName wrote It seems like you're straw manning her actual points and are focusing on her obvious hyperbole.
She pretty much recants her call for genocide at the end when she says she doesn't want to kill anyone.
You're focusing on one line which was obviously said off the cuff and wasn't really thought through out of a 3 and a half minute video.
Not only that but you're then applying her hyperbole to all vegans. Of course some vegans go too far, there are people who go too far in every group of people.
I'm sure I could find a brony who wants all non-bronies killed if I tried hard enough.
To be completely honest, even if she did genuinely think that all non-vegans should be slaughtered you haven't really provided a rebuttal.
You've vindicated Godwin's Law and pointed out some vague inconsistency in your stereotyped, 'all vegans think everything should be equal' view which might not exist in her beliefs.
whoa whoa whoa, i stated, SOME, SOME vegans are like that and sure she goes on to say this and that. Forcing us to not eat meat etc, but why can't i also have freedom to eat meat.
because some people do horrible things in the world to animals, i mean electrified in the butt thats a pretty horrific thing to do.
i'm focusing on the focal point of her argument. that i don't deserve to live, whether actually living or just on this world w/e.
Ofc some people think others deserve to die for what ever reason, but this person is reaching out to a huge community of people who may or may not believe in the same thing.
also i don't see how how vegans seeing everything as equal is stereo typical, i mean everything to be equal, that would be cool.
obviously not all believe this, but clearly she believes that animals should be treated equally to humans. now sure ok thats great, but then she says i don't deserve to live on this planet. at that point, i start my rant. now i dunno if your vegan or whatever, but i'm not saying anyone is like her. i'm saying some people completely agree with her in the sense that i should be out casted for eating meat.
now it's pretty damn obvious a famous person like her should not be going online and saying people should die. take that as a first few second view, i mean first 10 or 20 seconds is where you decide if you like or dislike something.
what pops into your mind, first 20 seconds in. before seeing anything else.
it hurts my mind how someone can say stuff like that. i mean they could have said, i believe that people are wrong for...
i have nothing against vegans in general, just against the ones like her.
point being if your preaching to 100's of thousands of people, make sure you know what you are saying before it sprays out of your mouth, cos thats how people get mad haha
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DestinyDude wroteManWithNoName wrote It seems like you're straw manning her actual points and are focusing on her obvious hyperbole.
She pretty much recants her call for genocide at the end when she says she doesn't want to kill anyone.
You're focusing on one line which was obviously said off the cuff and wasn't really thought through out of a 3 and a half minute video.
Not only that but you're then applying her hyperbole to all vegans. Of course some vegans go too far, there are people who go too far in every group of people.
I'm sure I could find a brony who wants all non-bronies killed if I tried hard enough.
To be completely honest, even if she did genuinely think that all non-vegans should be slaughtered you haven't really provided a rebuttal.
You've vindicated Godwin's Law and pointed out some vague inconsistency in your stereotyped, 'all vegans think everything should be equal' view which might not exist in her beliefs.
whoa whoa whoa, i stated, SOME, SOME vegans are like that and sure she goes on to say this and that. Forcing us to not eat meat etc, but why can't i also have freedom to eat meat.
because some people do horrible things in the world to animals, i mean electrified in the butt thats a pretty horrific thing to do.
i'm focusing on the focal point of her argument. that i don't deserve to live, whether actually living or just on this world w/e.
Ofc some people think others deserve to die for what ever reason, but this person is reaching out to a huge community of people who may or may not believe in the same thing.
also i don't see how how vegans seeing everything as equal is stereo typical, i mean everything to be equal, that would be cool.
obviously not all believe this, but clearly she believes that animals should be treated equally to humans. now sure ok thats great, but then she says i don't deserve to live on this planet. at that point, i start my rant. now i dunno if your vegan or whatever, but i'm not saying anyone is like her. i'm saying some people completely agree with her in the sense that i should be out casted for eating meat.
now it's pretty damn obvious a famous person like her should not be going online and saying people should die. take that as a first few second view, i mean first 10 or 20 seconds is where you decide if you like or dislike something.
what pops into your mind, first 20 seconds in. before seeing anything else.
it hurts my mind how someone can say stuff like that. i mean they could have said, i believe that people are wrong for...
i have nothing against vegans in general, just against the ones like her.
I've watched a couple more of her videos. She's not being hyperbolic.
My bad.
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ManWithNoName wroteDestinyDude wroteManWithNoName wrote It seems like you're straw manning her actual points and are focusing on her obvious hyperbole.
She pretty much recants her call for genocide at the end when she says she doesn't want to kill anyone.
You're focusing on one line which was obviously said off the cuff and wasn't really thought through out of a 3 and a half minute video.
Not only that but you're then applying her hyperbole to all vegans. Of course some vegans go too far, there are people who go too far in every group of people.
I'm sure I could find a brony who wants all non-bronies killed if I tried hard enough.
To be completely honest, even if she did genuinely think that all non-vegans should be slaughtered you haven't really provided a rebuttal.
You've vindicated Godwin's Law and pointed out some vague inconsistency in your stereotyped, 'all vegans think everything should be equal' view which might not exist in her beliefs.
whoa whoa whoa, i stated, SOME, SOME vegans are like that and sure she goes on to say this and that. Forcing us to not eat meat etc, but why can't i also have freedom to eat meat.
because some people do horrible things in the world to animals, i mean electrified in the butt thats a pretty horrific thing to do.
i'm focusing on the focal point of her argument. that i don't deserve to live, whether actually living or just on this world w/e.
Ofc some people think others deserve to die for what ever reason, but this person is reaching out to a huge community of people who may or may not believe in the same thing.
also i don't see how how vegans seeing everything as equal is stereo typical, i mean everything to be equal, that would be cool.
obviously not all believe this, but clearly she believes that animals should be treated equally to humans. now sure ok thats great, but then she says i don't deserve to live on this planet. at that point, i start my rant. now i dunno if your vegan or whatever, but i'm not saying anyone is like her. i'm saying some people completely agree with her in the sense that i should be out casted for eating meat.
now it's pretty damn obvious a famous person like her should not be going online and saying people should die. take that as a first few second view, i mean first 10 or 20 seconds is where you decide if you like or dislike something.
what pops into your mind, first 20 seconds in. before seeing anything else.
it hurts my mind how someone can say stuff like that. i mean they could have said, i believe that people are wrong for...
i have nothing against vegans in general, just against the ones like her.
I've watched a couple more of her videos. She's not being hyperbolic.
My bad.
lol, she's a bit weird i guess
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To be honest, animals eat animals (wild cats eat deer etc) they don't frown upon that so why on humans eating animals? I see the points of how it's killed (they're still going to be eaten no matter how they're killed) or is it the scale of how many animals are eaten? Religion? No. I see it as someone has just had a bad nibble upon some bad bacon, sit back love and enjoy this nice fresh BLT it's got salad to;)
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people that try to shove their religion, way of life, and opinions down your throat and try to tell you its the right way or its the only way really annoy me tbh. i dont care if you believe in a religion or prefer to do something a different way yada yada yada but when you start taking it to the extreme of your way is the right way and every one elses way is wrong, it really bugs me. shes talking about we all need to be vegan to save the planet, imo animals being eaten is the last of earths worries.
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illume wrote To be honest, animals eat animals (wild cats eat deer etc) they don't frown upon that so why on humans eating animals? I see the points of how it's killed (they're still going to be eaten no matter how they're killed) or is it the scale of how many animals are eaten? Religion? No. I see it as someone has just had a bad nibble upon some bad bacon, sit back love and enjoy this nice fresh BLT it's got salad to;)
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im hungry now and i just ate
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Now i used to respect them, until now.
I won't lie, I skimmed this and didn't even both clicking the video because your formatting just made it a chore to even read, but that's not why I'm posting. I'm replying to this because of this quote, you're acting like every group of people doesn't have a population of overbearing and obnoxious people. If you judge a group of people based on the opinions or behaviors of few then you're simply ignorant on the bigger picture.
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