ok, so who is manufacturing the guns that isis have?
im pretty sure that its the us?

I'm pretty sure they buy it from the Black Market.

Dementor wrote

Al-Capone wrote I know what you mean but NATO needs to stop complaining. If US sends out air strikes why can't Russia? Russian air strikes have been quiet successful hitting ISIS bases and all. If NATO lets Russia deal with ISIS then it's all good. Plus China might be assisting Russia with the ISIS problem which will be a huge bonus cause their military powers are really good.


BTW, I don't think any country wants another world war.

I can see exactly were you are coming from....


at the end of the day there is going to be a ww3 like very soon and theres nout we can do to stop this from happening

Why do you keep going on about WW3? This isn't going to cause WW3. You realize that the US and Russia are basically working together on this, right? The only main superpowers large enough to instigate WW3 are the US, Russia, China, and the UK. They are all either working to fight ISIS or are allied with someone who is working to fight ISIS.

Yes, Russia bombed US armed rebels, but what did those rebels do when they got into Syria? They gave their guns to Al Qaeda.

@OP: As long as Putin continues to focus on Jihadists he can do whatever he wants.

The reason I'm against him bombing specifically is because bombs will inevitably cause collateral damage and are demonstrably linked to the increase in worldwide extremism.
If he wants to fight with ground troops who are more likely to kill hostile targets only then sure he can get involved.
I feel the same about the US, UK, China, and any other country who wants to beat back these morons, just don't do it with bombs.

By doing all this it is very clear where they stand on the whole issue. If anyone is to be " warned" whatever the **** that means nowadays, it is the Saud's. Yet nothing is said about them, they even headed the Human Rights council for the UN!

here is what the truth is

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Yeah.

How DARE you fire missiles at our creations?!

Russia bombs ISIL - Bad
USA Invades Iraq and doesn't find any WMD, leaves with the country down the pan - Fine

USA and UN Logic.

Woodkid wrote

Dementor wrote

Al-Capone wrote I know what you mean but NATO needs to stop complaining. If US sends out air strikes why can't Russia? Russian air strikes have been quiet successful hitting ISIS bases and all. If NATO lets Russia deal with ISIS then it's all good. Plus China might be assisting Russia with the ISIS problem which will be a huge bonus cause their military powers are really good.


BTW, I don't think any country wants another world war.

I can see exactly were you are coming from....


at the end of the day there is going to be a ww3 like very soon and theres nout we can do to stop this from happening

Why do you keep going on about WW3? This isn't going to cause WW3. You realize that the US and Russia are basically working together on this, right? The only main superpowers large enough to instigate WW3 are the US, Russia, China, and the UK. They are all either working to fight ISIS or are allied with someone who is working to fight ISIS.

Yes, Russia bombed US armed rebels, but what did those rebels do when they got into Syria? They gave their guns to Al Qaeda.

@OP: As long as Putin continues to focus on Jihadists he can do whatever he wants.

The reason I'm against him bombing specifically is because bombs will inevitably cause collateral damage and are demonstrably linked to the increase in worldwide extremism.
If he wants to fight with ground troops who are more likely to kill hostile targets only then sure he can get involved.
I feel the same about the US, UK, China, and any other country who wants to beat back these morons, just don't do it with bombs.

Russia and the US are working together to defeat ISIS?

yeah..........

Resistenza wrote

Woodkid wrote

Dementor wrote

Al-Capone wrote I know what you mean but NATO needs to stop complaining. If US sends out air strikes why can't Russia? Russian air strikes have been quiet successful hitting ISIS bases and all. If NATO lets Russia deal with ISIS then it's all good. Plus China might be assisting Russia with the ISIS problem which will be a huge bonus cause their military powers are really good.


BTW, I don't think any country wants another world war.

I can see exactly were you are coming from....


at the end of the day there is going to be a ww3 like very soon and theres nout we can do to stop this from happening

Why do you keep going on about WW3? This isn't going to cause WW3. You realize that the US and Russia are basically working together on this, right? The only main superpowers large enough to instigate WW3 are the US, Russia, China, and the UK. They are all either working to fight ISIS or are allied with someone who is working to fight ISIS.

Yes, Russia bombed US armed rebels, but what did those rebels do when they got into Syria? They gave their guns to Al Qaeda.

@OP: As long as Putin continues to focus on Jihadists he can do whatever he wants.

The reason I'm against him bombing specifically is because bombs will inevitably cause collateral damage and are demonstrably linked to the increase in worldwide extremism.
If he wants to fight with ground troops who are more likely to kill hostile targets only then sure he can get involved.
I feel the same about the US, UK, China, and any other country who wants to beat back these morons, just don't do it with bombs.

Russia and the US are working together to defeat ISIS?

yeah..........

I said nothing about their mistakes. I don't believe that the US is 'funding' ISIS. I know that ISIS has capitalized on a lot of US mistakes, like going into the region in the first place, leaving equipment behind, etc., but that doesn't mean that they are in cahoots.

North Atlantic Terrorist Organisation they said.....well said