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002 wrote
Rodent_Modz wrote being different countries and different religions some do not celebrate christmas on same day so people say Happy Holidays instead


Ok, BUT........ Halloween is a holiday, so why does the phrase "happy holidays" only include Christmas (or what ever you celebrate) and new years? Why not Thanksgiving? Ooooh, here's a good one. What about Easter? Easter is a primarily Christian holiday (like Christmas) celebrating Christ's resurrection. Why is it vastly OK to say "happy Easter" beings that it's a Christian holiday celebrated by most, Christian or not, yet people get flustered over saying "Merry Christmas" because it's Christian and opposes with their views?


Because there is numerous different holidays in the same time span around Christmas. That can't be said for Halloween, Thanksgiving, or Easter.

002 wrote Now I should get offended at the phrase "happy holidays". Honestly, we have things like Columbus day, so why not just rename Dec. 25th to Jesus day, or Christ's day?


You can call it whatever you want. Nobody is stopping you. Say "Merry Christ's Day" if you want. 99.99% of people won't give a shit.
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I also don't care what you say, or why you say it. I have an issue with why people were essentially forced to say it


Ok well the only people who are FORCED by the hand of power to say "Happy Holidays" or or or OR say nothing at all, are people who work for specific companies, and I RARELY hear people say "Happy Holidays" Speaking from a business perspective, I think saying "Happy Holidays" would be a better move because well you can say it for any holiday and it doesnt exclude anyone. Aside from that I dont think its wrong for business owners to publicly display their religious or political beliefs, I just have a deep problem when its only ok for Christians to do it.



Many years ago (in America), we said "Merry Christmas". It didn't matter where you go, you said "Merry Christmas". Then people who didn't celebrate Christmas got offended and started suing corporations for having their greeters / employees say "Merry Christmas".


If by many many years ago you mean in 1860 then yeah I would agree maybe, but this whole happy holidays thing isnt a new deal. My Christian father ALWAYS complains about people who say "Happy Holidays" and he will always tell me about how when he was a child he came across those who said "happy holidays" and it would bother him for whatever reason. I understand anecdotal evidence isnt the best support for a claim however its just ridiculous to think that saying "Happy Holidays" is a phrase that started recently.

I have never heard of a company being sued over a greater or worker saying "Merry Christmas" thats ridiculous and the person who is suing is a big puss, however I would like to see evidence of this happening. No company should have to cower in fear over one individual being offended.


I just have an issue with people getting offended and changing a tradition


Yeah well not everyone follows the "tradition", its not changing anything its refusing to follow.

Grow up and say it how you want to say it, don't worry about how I say it.


I agree, Happy Holidays.

Ok, BUT........ Halloween is a holiday, so why does the phrase "happy holidays" only include Christmas (or what ever you celebrate) and new years?


It doesnt have to, I say "happy holidays" for every holiday.. it can apply to any holiday. I would say its used most common around this time of the year because its a global holiday, unlike

Ooooh, here's a good one. What about Easter? Easter is a primarily Christian holiday (like Christmas) celebrating Christ's resurrection. Why is it vastly OK to say "happy Easter" beings that it's a Christian holiday celebrated by most, Christian or not, yet people get flustered over saying "Merry Christmas" because it's Christian and opposes with their views?


Yeah idk where youre going with this, once again you can say happy holidays for Easter. Also I dont know any people who arent Christian that celebrate Easter? That doesnt make sense, if an atheist celebrates Easter as in participates in Easter church, does all the altering and praying stuff then they more than likely arent actually an Atheist.

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Honestly, we have things like Columbus day, so why not just rename Dec. 25th to Jesus day, or Christ's day?


What does Columbus Day have to do with Christmas exactly? Columbus day is a holiday only "celebrated" in the US. Renaming Christmas is a bit tricky since you know, its not originally a Christian holiday and even though Paganism isnt very popular anymore, its not like they can just change that. I would suggest looking into the history of Christmas man.
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002 wrote
Rodent_Modz wrote being different countries and different religions some do not celebrate christmas on same day so people say Happy Holidays instead


Ok, BUT........ Halloween is a holiday, so why does the phrase "happy holidays" only include Christmas (or what ever you celebrate) and new years? Why not Thanksgiving? Ooooh, here's a good one. What about Easter? Easter is a primarily Christian holiday (like Christmas) celebrating Christ's resurrection. Why is it vastly OK to say "happy Easter" beings that it's a Christian holiday celebrated by most, Christian or not, yet people get flustered over saying "Merry Christmas" because it's Christian and opposes with their views?


Halloween is a secular holiday. It applies to everyone and no one specifically so if you say "Happy Halloween" to someone and they get offended because they believe that demons shouldn't be celebrated then they aren't going to be celebrating Halloween at all so why would you say "Happy Holidays!" to them instead if they aren't celebrating it? Even if you did say Happy Holidays to one of these people they would get upset because they would know that you are talking about Halloween.

Easter and Thanksgiving have the same answer, both aren't as big as Christmas so not enough people care enough about them in order to:

A) Stop themselves from offending others
B) Get offended by others

The latter may change this year given the amount that everybody seems to be getting offended by everything recently.

Christmas has also become a much more secularized holiday while Easter is still firmly planted in Christian tradition.
Easter still belongs to Christians, Christmas doesn't any more.
No, this doesn't have much to do with Satanists expressing their religious freedoms around the Christmas season, this is because of corporations focusing less on the Christian aspect of Christmas in order to branch out their marketing and target a broader audience outside of just Christians.
It has been a slow process but it has been an effective one.

I agree though, people shouldn't have to say Happy Holidays because Merry Christmas should suffice.
One group of thin-skinned people has given rise to another group of thin-skinned people.

The people who got upset about people saying Merry Christmas and invented the Happy Holidays phrase have now given rise to the thin-skinned Christians who get upset when someone says Happy Holidays instead of Merry Christmas.

It's a circle of stupidity which isn't going to end until people stop getting offended by words.
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I always thought saying Merry Christmas & Happy Holidays was ideal because you say Merry Christmas then happy Holidays for the upcoming New year.
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