Hope the F***** gets caught!!!!

The world is not a good place, thanks to idiots like this.

OG12 wrote

Ahab wrote The stupidity of these SJW's never ceases to amaze me.

These people obviously think that Donald Trump is everything that the media accused him of being. A racist, sexist, xenophobic moron.
Let's assume that all of those things are true and that these people are correct.

What is worse? Being a racist, sexist, xenophobic moron or actually violently torturing an autistic person who cannot defend themselves?

I wonder what mental gymnastics they would engage in to say Donald Trump is worse than they are.

They tortured someone with disabilities, that's not social justice. Don't need to be a SJW to dislike Trump.

Is it really a huge stretch to say they are social justice warriors when they are opposed to Trump and think it's acceptable to lump all white people into the same group like we see so many social justice warriors do all of the time and not see how it is racist?

I don't like Trump, but I can see an SJW anti-Trumper when one jumps up in my face.

I know that beating someone with disabilities isn't social justice, the point is that SJW's don't tend to uphold the principles of social justice all that often. That is why they are so funny.

Just to make this clear I completely understand your point. I don't know these people and I only have two of their views. They could be completely reasonable in every other way and only have legitimate criticisms of Trump.
I accept that, I just think it is much more likely that they are typical SJW's who aren't very thoughtful and think all of the stereotypical things that SJW's do think.

Ahab wrote

OG12 wrote

Ahab wrote The stupidity of these SJW's never ceases to amaze me.

These people obviously think that Donald Trump is everything that the media accused him of being. A racist, sexist, xenophobic moron.
Let's assume that all of those things are true and that these people are correct.

What is worse? Being a racist, sexist, xenophobic moron or actually violently torturing an autistic person who cannot defend themselves?

I wonder what mental gymnastics they would engage in to say Donald Trump is worse than they are.

They tortured someone with disabilities, that's not social justice. Don't need to be a SJW to dislike Trump.

Is it really a huge stretch to say they are social justice warriors when they are opposed to Trump and think it's acceptable to lump all white people into the same group like we see so many social justice warriors do all of the time and not see how it is racist?

I don't like Trump, but I can see an SJW anti-Trumper when one jumps up in my face.

I know that beating someone with disabilities isn't social justice, the point is that SJW's don't tend to uphold the principles of social justice all that often. That is why they are so funny.

Just to make this clear I completely understand your point. I don't know these people and I only have two of their views. They could be completely reasonable in every other way and only have legitimate criticisms of Trump.
I accept that, I just think it is much more likely that they are typical SJW's who aren't very thoughtful and think all of the stereotypical things that SJW's do think.

I wouldn't put people who get offended over stupid shit in the same bracket as these sickos.

I don't know or care what they're criticism of him is, irrelevant after what they did was just simply saying they're not SJWs imo as (like I said) you're putting people who just have different opinions/views in the same bracket as people who tortured a disabled guy.

OG12 wrote

Ahab wrote

OG12 wrote

Ahab wrote The stupidity of these SJW's never ceases to amaze me.

These people obviously think that Donald Trump is everything that the media accused him of being. A racist, sexist, xenophobic moron.
Let's assume that all of those things are true and that these people are correct.

What is worse? Being a racist, sexist, xenophobic moron or actually violently torturing an autistic person who cannot defend themselves?

I wonder what mental gymnastics they would engage in to say Donald Trump is worse than they are.

They tortured someone with disabilities, that's not social justice. Don't need to be a SJW to dislike Trump.

Is it really a huge stretch to say they are social justice warriors when they are opposed to Trump and think it's acceptable to lump all white people into the same group like we see so many social justice warriors do all of the time and not see how it is racist?

I don't like Trump, but I can see an SJW anti-Trumper when one jumps up in my face.

I know that beating someone with disabilities isn't social justice, the point is that SJW's don't tend to uphold the principles of social justice all that often. That is why they are so funny.

Just to make this clear I completely understand your point. I don't know these people and I only have two of their views. They could be completely reasonable in every other way and only have legitimate criticisms of Trump.
I accept that, I just think it is much more likely that they are typical SJW's who aren't very thoughtful and think all of the stereotypical things that SJW's do think.

I wouldn't put people who get offended over stupid shit in the same bracket as these sickos.

I don't know or care what they're criticism of him is, irrelevant after what they did was just simply saying they're not SJWs imo as (like I said) you're putting people who just have different opinions/views in the same bracket as people who tortured a disabled guy.

I must think it's a much bigger bracket than you do. They are far away from other SJW's, but SJW's nonetheless.
Use racists as an example. There are racists who will casually say that blacks and whites shouldn't marry one another, and then there are racists who beat people to death because of their skin colour.
A large ethical divide exists between these two kinds of people, but they still fall into the same category of being racist.

I'm not saying that these people are close to the ethical principles and likely actions of the vast majority of SJW's and I probably should have made that more clear in my original post.

Ahab wrote I must think it's a much bigger bracket than you do. They are far away from other SJW's, but SJW's nonetheless.
Use racists as an example. There are racists who will casually say that blacks and whites shouldn't marry one another, and then there are racists who beat people to death because of their skin colour.
A large ethical divide exists between these two kinds of people, but they still fall into the same category of being racist.

I'm not saying that these people are close to the ethical principles and likely actions of the vast majority of SJW's and I probably should have made that more clear in my original post.

I've said for months now that the word SJW has lost it's meaning and this pretty much proves it. When you get to the stage were people with different opinions and people who torture the disabled are being called by the same name it's just a fact.

The correlation between your analogy is that both are racists and both should be called racist. The difference is I've never heard SJWs talk about torturing disabled people, if anything they'd defend the disabled as they're a minority and they'd probably feel like they were doing good defending them, unlike the people you're calling SJWs.

This is just sickening. This is what our society is turning into... I can only imagine it getting worse from here.

I would love to have a minute alone with all the males in that room to teach them a good lesson.

They don't deserve the highest punishment though, they deserve to be tortured like he was in my opinion and suffer what the guy suffered in that video at least, if not, then worse to show them how it impacts the innocent.

OG12 wrote

Ahab wrote I must think it's a much bigger bracket than you do. They are far away from other SJW's, but SJW's nonetheless.
Use racists as an example. There are racists who will casually say that blacks and whites shouldn't marry one another, and then there are racists who beat people to death because of their skin colour.
A large ethical divide exists between these two kinds of people, but they still fall into the same category of being racist.

I'm not saying that these people are close to the ethical principles and likely actions of the vast majority of SJW's and I probably should have made that more clear in my original post.

I've said for months now that the word SJW has lost it's meaning and this pretty much proves it. When you get to the stage were people with different opinions and people who torture the disabled are being called by the same name it's just a fact.

The correlation between your analogy is that both are racists and both should be called racist. The difference is I've never heard SJWs talk about torturing disabled people, if anything they'd defend the disabled as they're a minority and they'd probably feel like they were doing good defending them, unlike the people you're calling SJWs.

Of course SJW is a derogatory term. I'm not using it as anything else.
I'm using it for people who think they are good people and doing great things for society who are actually being detrimental to society.

These people fit that definition perfectly. They obviously think they are morally superior to Donald Trump and all white people whilst simultaneously beating a disabled person. This is the kind of hypocrisy that led to SJW being used as a derogatory term in the first place.

Anyone who I would personally consider an SJW is a bad person in my opinion. If they are truly invested in the wellbeing of society, can support women's rights without depriving men of theirs, can see the racist aspects of society in both directions, etc. then they aren't an SJW to me.
They are just liberal.

You've been saying for months that SJW has lost it's meaning when everyone knows that already.
It's meaning now is "Look at this moron who thinks they're a good person actually being a horrible person."

If I knew that you thought people called themselves SJW's and were still proud of that mantle then I would have tackled this conversation completely differently.

I didn't say it wasn't. I use it the same way.

It's meaning started off as what you're describing, now it's "everyone who has one particular view is a SJW." Simply disliking white people and disliking Donald Trump now makes you a SJW. The first thing there is racism, nothing else and the latter is a popular opinion.

Nowhere did I imply SJWs liked being called that, I simply said they'd defend the disabled as they like to think they're making a difference defending minorities without actually doing anything irl. Which they're called out for.

I'll leave it at that, dislike both of them anyway just disagree on the phrasing.

That's a fair point and I completely agree. I think we just misunderstood one another.

Ahab wrote

OG12 wrote

Ahab wrote I must think it's a much bigger bracket than you do. They are far away from other SJW's, but SJW's nonetheless.
Use racists as an example. There are racists who will casually say that blacks and whites shouldn't marry one another, and then there are racists who beat people to death because of their skin colour.
A large ethical divide exists between these two kinds of people, but they still fall into the same category of being racist.

I'm not saying that these people are close to the ethical principles and likely actions of the vast majority of SJW's and I probably should have made that more clear in my original post.

I've said for months now that the word SJW has lost it's meaning and this pretty much proves it. When you get to the stage were people with different opinions and people who torture the disabled are being called by the same name it's just a fact.

The correlation between your analogy is that both are racists and both should be called racist. The difference is I've never heard SJWs talk about torturing disabled people, if anything they'd defend the disabled as they're a minority and they'd probably feel like they were doing good defending them, unlike the people you're calling SJWs.

Of course SJW is a derogatory term. I'm not using it as anything else.
I'm using it for people who think they are good people and doing great things for society who are actually being detrimental to society.

These people fit that definition perfectly. They obviously think they are morally superior to Donald Trump and all white people whilst simultaneously beating a disabled person. This is the kind of hypocrisy that led to SJW being used as a derogatory term in the first place.

Anyone who I would personally consider an SJW is a bad person in my opinion. If they are truly invested in the wellbeing of society, can support women's rights without depriving men of theirs, can see the racist aspects of society in both directions, etc. then they aren't an SJW to me.
They are just liberal.

You've been saying for months that SJW has lost it's meaning when everyone knows that already.
It's meaning now is "Look at this moron who thinks they're a good person actually being a horrible person."

If I knew that you thought people called themselves SJW's and were still proud of that mantle then I would have tackled this conversation completely differently.

I didn't say it wasn't. I use it the same way.

It's meaning started off as what you're describing, now it's "everyone who has one particular view is a SJW." Simply disliking white people and disliking Donald Trump now makes you a SJW. The first thing there is racism, nothing else and the latter is a popular opinion.

Nowhere did I imply SJWs liked being called that, I simply said they'd defend the disabled as they like to think they're making a difference defending minorities without actually doing anything irl. Which they're called out for.

I'll leave it at that, dislike both of them anyway just disagree on the phrasing.