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YuichiroHyakuya wrote

Yin wrote Assuming this is legit, it's straight trash; although, I wouldn't be surprised considering his fondness of Duterte. Just tiring that killing seems to be answer to everything.

It's a NEW DAY YESSS IT ISS!

Back on topic, it is legit. Came straight from Fox-News. Also, if you do the crime you must suffer the consequences.

The consequences have to be proportionate though. What crimes are worth the death penalty in your eyes?

If we kill everyone who violates the law, the world would be a better place. We kill people who bully our children & etc. Just the things that a slap on the wrist won't stop, so you have to do it the extreme way.

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Oozy wrote What is so bad about this?

Because, again, that isn't justice. It is just fulfilling the blood lust some people have. Prisons should work more to rehabilitate people. If someone is in for life, they should get to choose life or death. It shouldn't be up to anyone but them. The death penalty costs more than to house them. No civilized society should have something as barbaric and archaic as the death penalty anyway. The idea of wanting to be perpetually stuck in such a violent society is odd to me, one where a significant number of people actually suggest state-sanctioned murder.

Some people just need to be put to death. They can not change, nor do they want to change. They can still control things outside of prison. Some people also need to rot in prison. For example people like school shooters, rapists, etc, they all should rot in prison, but they should also be put to death. I do not believe that you can change their minds, they will be who they want to be. And you do not want to risk them escaping from prison, or harming anyone else. For example, El Chapo should have been put to death. He is/was allowed to have his life and spend it in prison, but he has escaped multiple times and caused harm to people.

And I do not believe that inmates should be able to chose whether or not they live. If I knew I was going to spend the rest of my life in prison, I would want the easy way out.

I did not know that putting someone to death cost more than a life imprisonment cost. I understand that there is a lot that goes into it, but surely there is some way to get the cost down. And there would have to be studies, but depending on how much crime and drug trafficking could be stopped, it would outweigh the cost of putting these people to death. For example, if you can stop a few big drug traffickers such as El Chapo, that is. Many of these big drug traffickers and dealers are also responsible for a lot of damage. El Chapo was responsible for the killing of 10,000 of thousands of people. I'm sure that your local drug dealers are responsible for at least a few deaths a piece. They are also making tons of money that could be spent elsewhere.

It would be great if we did not have to put people to death, but that is not the world we live in. I wish that we do not have to put people to death, but it is something that has to happen.

I used to be all of the death penalty when I first joined this site. I also had the reasoning of some people being too monstrous to let live. Changed my opinion though when I found out the cost and the innocent people killed by the death penalty though. Also, the terribly bad people typically never get out of prison, so they are basically dead anyway without having to resort to such violence to achieve it. The only other issue would be corrupt guards or terrible prison setup where they could get information to people on the outside, which is whole other issue in itself.

As stated earlier, i'm sure the cost could be lowered. There is always the risk that innocent people could be killed. That is why I said that there should be more than substantial evidence to prove that the person committed the crime and can not change. I'm sure that innocent people will still die, but it should be as minimized as possible. As stated earlier El Chapo escaped multiple times. And even if they are stuck in prison, they can still run things from the inside. Look at how many prison gangs we have that still working with the outside.

This topic is obviously nothing to be taken lightly. As I stated in another comment, there is much more that goes into it. People would need to sit down and think through everything.

I think the times he escaped were in Mexico, which they need to fix that. We need to change how inmates have access to other inmates. We need to fix some of the issues we have of escaping prisoners as well, but none of this requires killing.

Well, I'm all for assisted suicide for anyone of legal age, prisoner or not. The idea of forcing someone to exist when they don't want to is immoral in my opinion. I feel that prison is meant to take away basic freedoms of someone, somewhat as a punishment, but more so to protect everyone else outside of prison. I just can't get on board with the idea of sending people there just so they can feel miserable for the rest of their life. While there are some people that I'm not going to lose any sleep over if they feel bad, I'm not going to celebrate or encourage the idea of it.

Are we talking about actual murder? Then put the guy in prison where he belongs. If it ends up in a shootout, then that is where it ends. If we are talking about overdoses, I'm not ready to blanket blame the drug dealer for all of it just as I'm not blaming companies when someone dies of alcohol poisoning. People make the choice to put what they want in their body, as they should. It is their body. If they become a problem to other citizens (harassing, violent), arrest them accordingly.

I mean, if we put people in prison that is secure, we don't need to put them to death. The death penalty is just a choice. We can do without it. A number of states and countries have chose to abolish their death penalties. We can live in that world. We don't have to kill prisoners.

If innocent people are going to continue to die, I'm not even going to entertain the idea. Other than criminals having some ways to contact the outside world, which is its own problem, none of this is worth risking innocent people.

Tentacion wrote I hate how people stand behind him i hate trump

Chat wrote This is legit like saying, all the kids that are forced to sell drugs and shit should be punished and face it too, no this is bullshit Trump don't know shit, I'm so glad I don't live in the US, I mean come on the rules are stupid, deal with the gun violence and all the other shit that needs to be done rather than making up stupid shit like this.

Drug trafficking generates violent crime
Trafficking in illicit drugs tends to be associated with the
commission of violent crimes.

Reasons for the relationshipof drug trafficking to violence include:
- competition for drug markets and customers
- disputes and ripoffs among individuals involved in the illegal drug market
- individuals who participate in drug trafficking are prone to use violence
- locations where street drug markets proliferate tend to be disadvantaged economically and socially; legal
and social controls against violence in such areas tend to be ineffective.

I live in the UK, I don't need a GUN I feel safe. but that don't mean stuff doesn't happen, but they work on it and they try their best. atleast without guns that's less deaths.

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Oozy wrote

Yin wrote

Oozy wrote What is so bad about this?

Because, again, that isn't justice. It is just fulfilling the blood lust some people have. Prisons should work more to rehabilitate people. If someone is in for life, they should get to choose life or death. It shouldn't be up to anyone but them. The death penalty costs more than to house them. No civilized society should have something as barbaric and archaic as the death penalty anyway. The idea of wanting to be perpetually stuck in such a violent society is odd to me, one where a significant number of people actually suggest state-sanctioned murder.

Some people just need to be put to death. They can not change, nor do they want to change. They can still control things outside of prison. Some people also need to rot in prison. For example people like school shooters, rapists, etc, they all should rot in prison, but they should also be put to death. I do not believe that you can change their minds, they will be who they want to be. And you do not want to risk them escaping from prison, or harming anyone else. For example, El Chapo should have been put to death. He is/was allowed to have his life and spend it in prison, but he has escaped multiple times and caused harm to people.

And I do not believe that inmates should be able to chose whether or not they live. If I knew I was going to spend the rest of my life in prison, I would want the easy way out.

I did not know that putting someone to death cost more than a life imprisonment cost. I understand that there is a lot that goes into it, but surely there is some way to get the cost down. And there would have to be studies, but depending on how much crime and drug trafficking could be stopped, it would outweigh the cost of putting these people to death. For example, if you can stop a few big drug traffickers such as El Chapo, that is. Many of these big drug traffickers and dealers are also responsible for a lot of damage. El Chapo was responsible for the killing of 10,000 of thousands of people. I'm sure that your local drug dealers are responsible for at least a few deaths a piece. They are also making tons of money that could be spent elsewhere.

It would be great if we did not have to put people to death, but that is not the world we live in. I wish that we do not have to put people to death, but it is something that has to happen.

I used to be all of the death penalty when I first joined this site. I also had the reasoning of some people being too monstrous to let live. Changed my opinion though when I found out the cost and the innocent people killed by the death penalty though. Also, the terribly bad people typically never get out of prison, so they are basically dead anyway without having to resort to such violence to achieve it. The only other issue would be corrupt guards or terrible prison setup where they could get information to people on the outside, which is whole other issue in itself.

As stated earlier, i'm sure the cost could be lowered. There is always the risk that innocent people could be killed. That is why I said that there should be more than substantial evidence to prove that the person committed the crime and can not change. I'm sure that innocent people will still die, but it should be as minimized as possible. As stated earlier El Chapo escaped multiple times. And even if they are stuck in prison, they can still run things from the inside. Look at how many prison gangs we have that still working with the outside.

This topic is obviously nothing to be taken lightly. As I stated in another comment, there is much more that goes into it. People would need to sit down and think through everything.

I think the times he escaped were in Mexico, which they need to fix that. We need to change how inmates have access to other inmates. We need to fix some of the issues we have of escaping prisoners as well, but none of this requires killing.

Well, I'm all for assisted suicide for anyone of legal age, prisoner or not. The idea of forcing someone to exist when they don't want to is immoral in my opinion. I feel that prison is meant to take away basic freedoms of someone, somewhat as a punishment, but more so to protect everyone else outside of prison. I just can't get on board with the idea of sending people there just so they can feel miserable for the rest of their life. While there are some people that I'm not going to lose any sleep over if they feel bad, I'm not going to celebrate or encourage the idea of it.

Are we talking about actual murder? Then put the guy in prison where he belongs. If it ends up in a shootout, then that is where it ends. If we are talking about overdoses, I'm not ready to blanket blame the drug dealer for all of it just as I'm not blaming companies when someone dies of alcohol poisoning. People make the choice to put what they want in their body, as they should. It is their body. If they become a problem to other citizens (harassing, violent), arrest them accordingly.

I mean, if we put people in prison that is secure, we don't need to put them to death. The death penalty is just a choice. We can do without it. A number of states and countries have chose to abolish their death penalties. We can live in that world. We don't have to kill prisoners.

If innocent people are going to continue to die, I'm not even going to entertain the idea. Other than criminals having some ways to contact the outside world, which is its own problem, none of this is worth risking innocent people.

Actual murder. For example, rivals, innocent bystanders who just happened to be at the wrong place at the wrong time, etc. I do not care about overdoses either.

I would be happy with putting people in prison if we can make sure that they can not control the outside and can not escape.

Tentacion wrote I hate how people stand behind him i hate trump

That is it? That is all you are going to say? You are not going to say why? If that is all you were going to say then you should not even post it. All it is going to do is trigger people.

Chat wrote This is legit like saying, all the kids that are forced to sell drugs and shit should be punished and face it too, no this is bullshit Trump don't know shit, I'm so glad I don't live in the US, I mean come on the rules are stupid, deal with the gun violence and all the other shit that needs to be done rather than making up stupid shit like this.

I'm glad you don't live in the U.S.. You must live in a mythical world were everything is great right? Our current laws are not working, so we must try something new.

Who is forced to sell drugs? I have never heard of someone who had a gun pointed to their head and forced to sell drugs.

Drugs and guns go together like two peas in a pod. For example, [ Register or Signin to view external links. ] , drug deals that don't end well may result in shootings, rival gangs may shoot at each other.

Drug trafficking generates violent crime
Trafficking in illicit drugs tends to be associated with the
commission of violent crimes.

Reasons for the relationshipof drug trafficking to violence include:
- competition for drug markets and customers
- disputes and ripoffs among individuals involved in the illegal drug market
- individuals who participate in drug trafficking are prone to use violence
- locations where street drug markets proliferate tend to be disadvantaged economically and socially; legal
and social controls against violence in such areas tend to be ineffective.

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Yin wrote

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Oozy wrote

Yin wrote

Oozy wrote What is so bad about this?

Because, again, that isn't justice. It is just fulfilling the blood lust some people have. Prisons should work more to rehabilitate people. If someone is in for life, they should get to choose life or death. It shouldn't be up to anyone but them. The death penalty costs more than to house them. No civilized society should have something as barbaric and archaic as the death penalty anyway. The idea of wanting to be perpetually stuck in such a violent society is odd to me, one where a significant number of people actually suggest state-sanctioned murder.

Some people just need to be put to death. They can not change, nor do they want to change. They can still control things outside of prison. Some people also need to rot in prison. For example people like school shooters, rapists, etc, they all should rot in prison, but they should also be put to death. I do not believe that you can change their minds, they will be who they want to be. And you do not want to risk them escaping from prison, or harming anyone else. For example, El Chapo should have been put to death. He is/was allowed to have his life and spend it in prison, but he has escaped multiple times and caused harm to people.

And I do not believe that inmates should be able to chose whether or not they live. If I knew I was going to spend the rest of my life in prison, I would want the easy way out.

I did not know that putting someone to death cost more than a life imprisonment cost. I understand that there is a lot that goes into it, but surely there is some way to get the cost down. And there would have to be studies, but depending on how much crime and drug trafficking could be stopped, it would outweigh the cost of putting these people to death. For example, if you can stop a few big drug traffickers such as El Chapo, that is. Many of these big drug traffickers and dealers are also responsible for a lot of damage. El Chapo was responsible for the killing of 10,000 of thousands of people. I'm sure that your local drug dealers are responsible for at least a few deaths a piece. They are also making tons of money that could be spent elsewhere.

It would be great if we did not have to put people to death, but that is not the world we live in. I wish that we do not have to put people to death, but it is something that has to happen.

I used to be all of the death penalty when I first joined this site. I also had the reasoning of some people being too monstrous to let live. Changed my opinion though when I found out the cost and the innocent people killed by the death penalty though. Also, the terribly bad people typically never get out of prison, so they are basically dead anyway without having to resort to such violence to achieve it. The only other issue would be corrupt guards or terrible prison setup where they could get information to people on the outside, which is whole other issue in itself.

As stated earlier, i'm sure the cost could be lowered. There is always the risk that innocent people could be killed. That is why I said that there should be more than substantial evidence to prove that the person committed the crime and can not change. I'm sure that innocent people will still die, but it should be as minimized as possible. As stated earlier El Chapo escaped multiple times. And even if they are stuck in prison, they can still run things from the inside. Look at how many prison gangs we have that still working with the outside.

This topic is obviously nothing to be taken lightly. As I stated in another comment, there is much more that goes into it. People would need to sit down and think through everything.

I think the times he escaped were in Mexico, which they need to fix that. We need to change how inmates have access to other inmates. We need to fix some of the issues we have of escaping prisoners as well, but none of this requires killing.

Well, I'm all for assisted suicide for anyone of legal age, prisoner or not. The idea of forcing someone to exist when they don't want to is immoral in my opinion. I feel that prison is meant to take away basic freedoms of someone, somewhat as a punishment, but more so to protect everyone else outside of prison. I just can't get on board with the idea of sending people there just so they can feel miserable for the rest of their life. While there are some people that I'm not going to lose any sleep over if they feel bad, I'm not going to celebrate or encourage the idea of it.

Are we talking about actual murder? Then put the guy in prison where he belongs. If it ends up in a shootout, then that is where it ends. If we are talking about overdoses, I'm not ready to blanket blame the drug dealer for all of it just as I'm not blaming companies when someone dies of alcohol poisoning. People make the choice to put what they want in their body, as they should. It is their body. If they become a problem to other citizens (harassing, violent), arrest them accordingly.

I mean, if we put people in prison that is secure, we don't need to put them to death. The death penalty is just a choice. We can do without it. A number of states and countries have chose to abolish their death penalties. We can live in that world. We don't have to kill prisoners.

If innocent people are going to continue to die, I'm not even going to entertain the idea. Other than criminals having some ways to contact the outside world, which is its own problem, none of this is worth risking innocent people.

Actual murder. For example, rivals, innocent bystanders who just happened to be at the wrong place at the wrong time, etc. I do not care about overdoses either.

I would be happy with putting people in prison if we can make sure that they can not control the outside and can not escape.

Tentacion wrote I hate how people stand behind him i hate trump

That is it? That is all you are going to say? You are not going to say why? If that is all you were going to say then you should not even post it. All it is going to do is trigger people.

Chat wrote This is legit like saying, all the kids that are forced to sell drugs and shit should be punished and face it too, no this is bullshit Trump don't know shit, I'm so glad I don't live in the US, I mean come on the rules are stupid, deal with the gun violence and all the other shit that needs to be done rather than making up stupid shit like this.

I'm glad you don't live in the U.S.. You must live in a mythical world were everything is great right? Our current laws are not working, so we must try something new.

Who is forced to sell drugs? I have never heard of someone who had a gun pointed to their head and forced to sell drugs.

Drugs and guns go together like two peas in a pod. For example, [ Register or Signin to view external links. ] , drug deals that don't end well may result in shootings, rival gangs may shoot at each other.

Drug trafficking generates violent crime
Trafficking in illicit drugs tends to be associated with the
commission of violent crimes.

Reasons for the relationshipof drug trafficking to violence include:
- competition for drug markets and customers
- disputes and ripoffs among individuals involved in the illegal drug market
- individuals who participate in drug trafficking are prone to use violence
- locations where street drug markets proliferate tend to be disadvantaged economically and socially; legal
and social controls against violence in such areas tend to be ineffective.

[ Register or Signin to view external links. ]