Ah dam, so disappointed by this

Crazy how the writer of the movie getting into hot water ends up ruining the video game. I guess it makes sense when you have so much going on under one name, this sure sucks for fans of the game

Can someone explain what has happened? Read the article and it just says legal troubles.

ItzSaxbyyy wrote Can someone explain what has happened? Read the article and it just says legal troubles.

The screenwriter of the movie that the game is based off of has been in legal trouble for some time now, while the developers of the game tried to avoid it, over time they simply couldn't. Because of the friday the 13th name they got dragged in and had to stop creating updates for it.

Maze wrote

ItzSaxbyyy wrote Can someone explain what has happened? Read the article and it just says legal troubles.

The screenwriter of the movie that the game is based off of has been in legal trouble for some time now, while the developers of the game tried to avoid it, over time they simply couldn't. Because of the friday the 13th name they got dragged in and had to stop creating updates for it.

Adding a little onto this because I've been following and playing this game since it dropped.

The lawsuit has been going on for some time now for the whole Friday the 13th franchise. This is why no new Friday the 13th movies have been made, despite people asking for them as well as other older movies being made such as IT and Halloween. When the devs were making the game, they contacted the different people who own the titles/licenses to the different Jason characters and got approval for almost all of them. They also knew about the lawsuit but told people it would not have any impact whatsoever on the game or it's development. Skip ahead almost a year and this is where we are at. What a lot of people don't know or don't acknowledge with this whole thing, is Victor Miller isn't THE holder for Jason, he is the older for Jason as a kid and Pamela Vorhees, from Friday the 13th Part 1. Every other Jason has been from someone else, Part 2, Part 3, Part 6, etc. He did not have anything do with the sequels, but he was always credited in the credits of those movies since the young Jason who drowned, grew up into the Jason we know now -- hell I think he even complained about the ending of Part 1 because the killer was supposed to be Pamela and the movie/series was done for. The problem with the lawsuit is Sean Cunningham is claiming that Victor Miller was a work for hire, meaning that even though he created Jason as a kid, Jason as a whole would belong to Sean Cunningham as Victor was working for him; however, Sean can't find that contract to show the court which would effectively squash the whole thing.

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Now into a little 'conspiracy' theory inside the community.

Gun Media and Illfonic (creators of the game) have had a really shitty year one way or another. The game's launch was a complete disaster, full of actual game breaking bugs and overall server failure. They were complete radio silence during this. Once things got fixed, they created a Twitter account for support, problem is, they didn't share any information with that support account, which left whomever running the support twitter, unable to help except for very generic response's because they had nothing to give. The biggest one yet, was there was girl in a game who knew someone at Gun/Illfonic. There was a little kid in the same game and then there was 2 guys in the game where all this started from. Basically the guys were running around, taunting Jason and cussing at each other, joking around, the girl said they didn't like that because there is a little kid in the game. He brushed it off and continued playing how he was. Next game the kid became Jason and the guy was taunting Jason again, cussing and all that and when the girl heard about it, ran to the Jason and started teaming with him, telling him where the guy is at and all that. He died because of it, next game, he immediately runs for the kid and team kills him, the girl started bitching up a storm, guy and girl both start cussing at each other about it and then the guy says "do you like little kid d*** since you're on him so much?" She then said she knew someone who works at the game and will get him and his friend banned for being a pedophile and talking about child porn, he brushed it off -- as you do when someone claims they know someone who works at [x] company or for [x] game. Few days later, he winds up banned, guy makes a post on Reddit about it, made some extra stuff up that didn't happen and a witch hunt happened. Dev posted on Reddit who was also an Admin of the F13 subreddit saying anyone who basically isn't white knighting him or the girl, will be banned - which he did start banning people from that subreddit for anything critical of the decision that happened. He gets doxxed, his family gets doxxed, he makes a post apologizing, not enough, people start leaking his information around publicly, THEN the guy who made the original post couldn't keep some of the information he said before the same and people found out he made some stuff up to make it worse than before, which in turn got him doxxed. It was true he did get banned from the girl knowing someone at Gun/Illfonic, but he left out that he was team killing to piss people off and other things. That whole thing saw a massive drop in users and overall trust from the company.

From there it's just been one thing after another. Every update they bring out, every time they fix a bug, they go and create 20 more bugs. Glitches were rampant and still are for the most part rampant. Very poor communication from them lasted for a long time and they could never deliver onto their promises. An example is dedicated servers for consoles were promised to be done around October/November of 2017, as of June 2018, they still are not done. Backers especially are pissed because they paid for a special Jason that was supposed to be for them only, but people were able to manipulate Gun/Illfonic to get more codes, who would then turn around and sell them and suddenly there is the new Jason for more people - in which Gun/Illfonic said they will take action, but it isn't a priority and very few people had action taken against them, so the backers felt ripped off. On top of that, the physical copy didn't even mail out until October of last year when digital was out in May.

Now onto the whole theory thing, people are thinking that this law suit isn't even really a big issue for new content and instead Gun/Illfonic just jumping ship and not wanting to continue any further on the game. They've had a shit year full of constant disappointment inside the community and a few things people noticed that are not normal at all.

1. They released a new DLC kill pack without even announcing it. They have never done that before, so people started thinking they released it quickly, then suddenly this lawsuit actually affects them after the DLC is released, so more people go out to get the 'last' new feature of the game and whatever money they make off it, just take it and go.

2. There was no word about the lawsuit whatsoever after the initial one when the game was nearing it's release, people asked about it and was always met with saying they are within the limits and safe. Now things have suddenly changed.

3. The biggest one. As I mentioned before, you get one new update and a bunch of bugs come with it, this most recent one is a huge mess. They released single player challenges, offline mode with bots and an updated engine and it REALLLLLLLLLY brought about a lot of bugs. From weapons spawning way oversized, audio missing at random, really bad FPS drops, characters having either really flat hair colour, to parts of their body textures clipping through and/or expanding through the map and a bunch of other stuff. People hammered them hard for this mess because some if it becomes unplayable or very unfair. Over on Reddit people assumed they just decided to say the lawsuit is taking further action so they can just stop since things only get worse with each update. Jason X and Grendel map were going to be the next added features in it, as well as new kills, emotes and clothing styles, all of these were basically finished - hackers right now can hack in Jason X with his specific perks and kills, the Grendel map can be loaded in but doors are all closed so you need to clip and people have uncovered emotes and that stuff in the files with ease. After the big update bombed, people really believe they don't want to face more backlash (ironically even with what this caused) and decided to say the lawsuit is preventing anything further and everything is in this limbo for now/ever.

TaigaAisaka wrote

Maze wrote

ItzSaxbyyy wrote Can someone explain what has happened? Read the article and it just says legal troubles.

The screenwriter of the movie that the game is based off of has been in legal trouble for some time now, while the developers of the game tried to avoid it, over time they simply couldn't. Because of the friday the 13th name they got dragged in and had to stop creating updates for it.

Adding a little onto this because I've been following and playing this game since it dropped.

The lawsuit has been going on for some time now for the whole Friday the 13th franchise. This is why no new Friday the 13th movies have been made, despite people asking for them as well as other older movies being made such as IT and Halloween. When the devs were making the game, they contacted the different people who own the titles/licenses to the different Jason characters and got approval for almost all of them. They also knew about the lawsuit but told people it would not have any impact whatsoever on the game or it's development. Skip ahead almost a year and this is where we are at. What a lot of people don't know or don't acknowledge with this whole thing, is Victor Miller isn't THE holder for Jason, he is the older for Jason as a kid and Pamela Vorhees, from Friday the 13th Part 1. Every other Jason has been from someone else, Part 2, Part 3, Part 6, etc. He did not have anything do with the sequels, but he was always credited in the credits of those movies since the young Jason who drowned, grew up into the Jason we know now -- hell I think he even complained about the ending of Part 1 because the killer was supposed to be Pamela and the movie/series was done for. The problem with the lawsuit is Sean Cunningham is claiming that Victor Miller was a work for hire, meaning that even though he created Jason as a kid, Jason as a whole would belong to Sean Cunningham as Victor was working for him; however, Sean can't find that contract to show the court which would effectively squash the whole thing.

---

Now into a little 'conspiracy' theory inside the community.

Gun Media and Illfonic (creators of the game) have had a really shitty year one way or another. The game's launch was a complete disaster, full of actual game breaking bugs and overall server failure. They were complete radio silence during this. Once things got fixed, they created a Twitter account for support, problem is, they didn't share any information with that support account, which left whomever running the support twitter, unable to help except for very generic response's because they had nothing to give. The biggest one yet, was there was girl in a game who knew someone at Gun/Illfonic. There was a little kid in the same game and then there was 2 guys in the game where all this started from. Basically the guys were running around, taunting Jason and cussing at each other, joking around, the girl said they didn't like that because there is a little kid in the game. He brushed it off and continued playing how he was. Next game the kid became Jason and the guy was taunting Jason again, cussing and all that and when the girl heard about it, ran to the Jason and started teaming with him, telling him where the guy is at and all that. He died because of it, next game, he immediately runs for the kid and team kills him, the girl started bitching up a storm, guy and girl both start cussing at each other about it and then the guy says "do you like little kid d*** since you're on him so much?" She then said she knew someone who works at the game and will get him and his friend banned for being a pedophile and talking about child porn, he brushed it off -- as you do when someone claims they know someone who works at [x] company or for [x] game. Few days later, he winds up banned, guy makes a post on Reddit about it, made some extra stuff up that didn't happen and a witch hunt happened. Dev posted on Reddit who was also an Admin of the F13 subreddit saying anyone who basically isn't white knighting him or the girl, will be banned - which he did start banning people from that subreddit for anything critical of the decision that happened. He gets doxxed, his family gets doxxed, he makes a post apologizing, not enough, people start leaking his information around publicly, THEN the guy who made the original post couldn't keep some of the information he said before the same and people found out he made some stuff up to make it worse than before, which in turn got him doxxed. It was true he did get banned from the girl knowing someone at Gun/Illfonic, but he left out that he was team killing to piss people off and other things. That whole thing saw a massive drop in users and overall trust from the company.

From there it's just been one thing after another. Every update they bring out, every time they fix a bug, they go and create 20 more bugs. Glitches were rampant and still are for the most part rampant. Very poor communication from them lasted for a long time and they could never deliver onto their promises. An example is dedicated servers for consoles were promised to be done around October/November of 2017, as of June 2018, they still are not done. Backers especially are pissed because they paid for a special Jason that was supposed to be for them only, but people were able to manipulate Gun/Illfonic to get more codes, who would then turn around and sell them and suddenly there is the new Jason for more people - in which Gun/Illfonic said they will take action, but it isn't a priority and very few people had action taken against them, so the backers felt ripped off. On top of that, the physical copy didn't even mail out until October of last year when digital was out in May.

Now onto the whole theory thing, people are thinking that this law suit isn't even really a big issue for new content and instead Gun/Illfonic just jumping ship and not wanting to continue any further on the game. They've had a shit year full of constant disappointment inside the community and a few things people noticed that are not normal at all.

1. They released a new DLC kill pack without even announcing it. They have never done that before, so people started thinking they released it quickly, then suddenly this lawsuit actually affects them after the DLC is released, so more people go out to get the 'last' new feature of the game and whatever money they make off it, just take it and go.

2. There was no word about the lawsuit whatsoever after the initial one when the game was nearing it's release, people asked about it and was always met with saying they are within the limits and safe. Now things have suddenly changed.

3. The biggest one. As I mentioned before, you get one new update and a bunch of bugs come with it, this most recent one is a huge mess. They released single player challenges, offline mode with bots and an updated engine and it REALLLLLLLLLY brought about a lot of bugs. From weapons spawning way oversized, audio missing at random, really bad FPS drops, characters having either really flat hair colour, to parts of their body textures clipping through and/or expanding through the map and a bunch of other stuff. People hammered them hard for this mess because some if it becomes unplayable or very unfair. Over on Reddit people assumed they just decided to say the lawsuit is taking further action so they can just stop since things only get worse with each update. Jason X and Grendel map were going to be the next added features in it, as well as new kills, emotes and clothing styles, all of these were basically finished - hackers right now can hack in Jason X with his specific perks and kills, the Grendel map can be loaded in but doors are all closed so you need to clip and people have uncovered emotes and that stuff in the files with ease. After the big update bombed, people really believe they don't want to face more backlash (ironically even with what this caused) and decided to say the lawsuit is preventing anything further and everything is in this limbo for now/ever.

Thanks for this dude!

Thats so shitty if its true, but if Cunningham has no evidence since he says he lost the contract then the lawsuit should be thrown out? Plus wouldn't one of the other portrayers of Jason be able to show their contracts and show it is one thing or the other? Seems super fishy to me.

I hope this isn't just an excuse the devs are using to avoid fulfilling promises

Not necessarily, the court could still favour for Cunningham if they believe there is enough proof without the contract, just the contract alone would be the final nail in the coffin to hand the winning lawsuit over to Cunningham. As for the creators of the other Jasons, I'm not too sure how that would work. The fact of the matter is that the adult Jason, is deprived from the kid Jason that Miller created. There are conflicting origin stories and overall Jason lore in general between the series, but sadly Jason did start from Miller, albeit not the Jason that we are all familiar with. This case is a weird one just because Jason has been handled by so many people and companies. The original creator of kid Jason was very critical of the series going forward but until the court makes a choice, right now I don't know how much anyone else can add to the case for other Jasons because I believe Miller is looking at any Jasons after Part 1, is his property since he gave name and origin to Jason, even though he only worked on the first movie.

How lon has he been in legal trouble for now?