#1241. Posted:
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Pool wrote
BigWes wrote
Pool wrote
BigWes wrote
GMC wrote Well I just got a 95 chevy 1500 with a 5.7 and its got flowmaster super 50's

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That flag is quite eccentric and disrespectful...



Time for a history lesson.

First of all, that's not the confederate flag.. The confederate flag is this http://www.trainweb.org/seaboard/FLAG/TrueConfederateFlag.jpg.

First of all, this flag is NOT the "Confederate Flag." It is the "Battle Flag of Northern Virginia." This design, however, is the one most synonymous with the term, and the one used in various forms on many of the other flags that were flown by the Confederate States. It is also the one most hated by those who are completely and totally ignorant of what it stands for.

So take another look at the flag and answer this very simple question : Do you see a big letter "X" anywhere on the flag? The X is formed by the big, blue bands which are outlined with white trim.

Now take another look at the flag. On this big "X" there are thirteen white stars. See them? Do you know what these thirteen stars represent? They represent the thirteen original, united colonies from which the United States began. Each one of these colonies had its own system of self government... until the start of 'northern aggression' when the northern states began trying to usurp authority over the southern states. This was the main cause of the Civil War.

Point of fact : The thirteen stars on this flag appear to lie on the blue X... but in reality, the X lies on the stars, allowing them to shine through.

Now, a simple question : Do you remember from your grade-school years how the teachers would sometimes ask you to circle the right answers or picture on a work page, or to put an X on a picture or word or other item that didn't belong in a group? That is the same concept this flag is designed around; the stars are laid out in the pattern of an X, and the blue bands are put on the thirteen stars to show that the southern states no longer wanted to be a part of the union with the northern states. In simpler terms, the message of flag's design is simply this... CROSS US OUT of your Union! The southern states withdrew from the union in a movement called "secession," which led to the Civil War.


The point of your post is? I'm not an expert on flags, particularly this flag. The context on the flag is wrong according to your history lesson. It is an eccentric and disrespectful flag.


How so? In no way is it meant to be disrespectful, it's not aimed towards racism or anything. That's the flag of the "Battle of Northern Virginia." It wasn't used for racism nor has it ever been. If that's the case, then the flags before the Confederate flag are disrespectful and eccentric as well. Seeing as how there was slavery way before the Civil War. Am I correct?


Yes you're correct, but the way that particular flag is portrayed and seen in society is associated with racism ect.
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BigWes wrote
Pool wrote
BigWes wrote
Pool wrote
BigWes wrote
GMC wrote Well I just got a 95 chevy 1500 with a 5.7 and its got flowmaster super 50's

gyazo.com/b6c5097f892a8fb0398724076082c71b


That flag is quite eccentric and disrespectful...



Time for a history lesson.

First of all, that's not the confederate flag.. The confederate flag is this http://www.trainweb.org/seaboard/FLAG/TrueConfederateFlag.jpg.

First of all, this flag is NOT the "Confederate Flag." It is the "Battle Flag of Northern Virginia." This design, however, is the one most synonymous with the term, and the one used in various forms on many of the other flags that were flown by the Confederate States. It is also the one most hated by those who are completely and totally ignorant of what it stands for.

So take another look at the flag and answer this very simple question : Do you see a big letter "X" anywhere on the flag? The X is formed by the big, blue bands which are outlined with white trim.

Now take another look at the flag. On this big "X" there are thirteen white stars. See them? Do you know what these thirteen stars represent? They represent the thirteen original, united colonies from which the United States began. Each one of these colonies had its own system of self government... until the start of 'northern aggression' when the northern states began trying to usurp authority over the southern states. This was the main cause of the Civil War.

Point of fact : The thirteen stars on this flag appear to lie on the blue X... but in reality, the X lies on the stars, allowing them to shine through.

Now, a simple question : Do you remember from your grade-school years how the teachers would sometimes ask you to circle the right answers or picture on a work page, or to put an X on a picture or word or other item that didn't belong in a group? That is the same concept this flag is designed around; the stars are laid out in the pattern of an X, and the blue bands are put on the thirteen stars to show that the southern states no longer wanted to be a part of the union with the northern states. In simpler terms, the message of flag's design is simply this... CROSS US OUT of your Union! The southern states withdrew from the union in a movement called "secession," which led to the Civil War.


The point of your post is? I'm not an expert on flags, particularly this flag. The context on the flag is wrong according to your history lesson. It is an eccentric and disrespectful flag.


How so? In no way is it meant to be disrespectful, it's not aimed towards racism or anything. That's the flag of the "Battle of Northern Virginia." It wasn't used for racism nor has it ever been. If that's the case, then the flags before the Confederate flag are disrespectful and eccentric as well. Seeing as how there was slavery way before the Civil War. Am I correct?


Yes you're correct, but the way that particular flag is portrayed and seen in society is associated with racism ect.


Because people don't know the REAL story behind it. Now, I'm not going to debate anymore about this, because you seem like a respectable member, and I'd rather not get punished for this. So I hope you have a good rest of the night.
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Pool wrote
BigWes wrote
Pool wrote
BigWes wrote
Pool wrote
BigWes wrote
GMC wrote Well I just got a 95 chevy 1500 with a 5.7 and its got flowmaster super 50's

gyazo.com/b6c5097f892a8fb0398724076082c71b


That flag is quite eccentric and disrespectful...



Time for a history lesson.

First of all, that's not the confederate flag.. The confederate flag is this http://www.trainweb.org/seaboard/FLAG/TrueConfederateFlag.jpg.

First of all, this flag is NOT the "Confederate Flag." It is the "Battle Flag of Northern Virginia." This design, however, is the one most synonymous with the term, and the one used in various forms on many of the other flags that were flown by the Confederate States. It is also the one most hated by those who are completely and totally ignorant of what it stands for.

So take another look at the flag and answer this very simple question : Do you see a big letter "X" anywhere on the flag? The X is formed by the big, blue bands which are outlined with white trim.

Now take another look at the flag. On this big "X" there are thirteen white stars. See them? Do you know what these thirteen stars represent? They represent the thirteen original, united colonies from which the United States began. Each one of these colonies had its own system of self government... until the start of 'northern aggression' when the northern states began trying to usurp authority over the southern states. This was the main cause of the Civil War.

Point of fact : The thirteen stars on this flag appear to lie on the blue X... but in reality, the X lies on the stars, allowing them to shine through.

Now, a simple question : Do you remember from your grade-school years how the teachers would sometimes ask you to circle the right answers or picture on a work page, or to put an X on a picture or word or other item that didn't belong in a group? That is the same concept this flag is designed around; the stars are laid out in the pattern of an X, and the blue bands are put on the thirteen stars to show that the southern states no longer wanted to be a part of the union with the northern states. In simpler terms, the message of flag's design is simply this... CROSS US OUT of your Union! The southern states withdrew from the union in a movement called "secession," which led to the Civil War.


The point of your post is? I'm not an expert on flags, particularly this flag. The context on the flag is wrong according to your history lesson. It is an eccentric and disrespectful flag.


How so? In no way is it meant to be disrespectful, it's not aimed towards racism or anything. That's the flag of the "Battle of Northern Virginia." It wasn't used for racism nor has it ever been. If that's the case, then the flags before the Confederate flag are disrespectful and eccentric as well. Seeing as how there was slavery way before the Civil War. Am I correct?


Yes you're correct, but the way that particular flag is portrayed and seen in society is associated with racism ect.


Because people don't know the REAL story behind it. Now, I'm not going to debate anymore about this, because you seem like a respectable member, and I'd rather not get punished for this. So I hope you have a good rest of the night.


Thanks! Have a good rest of your night as well!
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I have a 97 Pontiac Firebird
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BigWes wrote
Pool wrote
BigWes wrote
Pool wrote
BigWes wrote
Pool wrote
BigWes wrote
GMC wrote Well I just got a 95 chevy 1500 with a 5.7 and its got flowmaster super 50's

gyazo.com/b6c5097f892a8fb0398724076082c71b


That flag is quite eccentric and disrespectful...



Time for a history lesson.

First of all, that's not the confederate flag.. The confederate flag is this http://www.trainweb.org/seaboard/FLAG/TrueConfederateFlag.jpg.

First of all, this flag is NOT the "Confederate Flag." It is the "Battle Flag of Northern Virginia." This design, however, is the one most synonymous with the term, and the one used in various forms on many of the other flags that were flown by the Confederate States. It is also the one most hated by those who are completely and totally ignorant of what it stands for.

So take another look at the flag and answer this very simple question : Do you see a big letter "X" anywhere on the flag? The X is formed by the big, blue bands which are outlined with white trim.

Now take another look at the flag. On this big "X" there are thirteen white stars. See them? Do you know what these thirteen stars represent? They represent the thirteen original, united colonies from which the United States began. Each one of these colonies had its own system of self government... until the start of 'northern aggression' when the northern states began trying to usurp authority over the southern states. This was the main cause of the Civil War.

Point of fact : The thirteen stars on this flag appear to lie on the blue X... but in reality, the X lies on the stars, allowing them to shine through.

Now, a simple question : Do you remember from your grade-school years how the teachers would sometimes ask you to circle the right answers or picture on a work page, or to put an X on a picture or word or other item that didn't belong in a group? That is the same concept this flag is designed around; the stars are laid out in the pattern of an X, and the blue bands are put on the thirteen stars to show that the southern states no longer wanted to be a part of the union with the northern states. In simpler terms, the message of flag's design is simply this... CROSS US OUT of your Union! The southern states withdrew from the union in a movement called "secession," which led to the Civil War.


The point of your post is? I'm not an expert on flags, particularly this flag. The context on the flag is wrong according to your history lesson. It is an eccentric and disrespectful flag.


How so? In no way is it meant to be disrespectful, it's not aimed towards racism or anything. That's the flag of the "Battle of Northern Virginia." It wasn't used for racism nor has it ever been. If that's the case, then the flags before the Confederate flag are disrespectful and eccentric as well. Seeing as how there was slavery way before the Civil War. Am I correct?


Yes you're correct, but the way that particular flag is portrayed and seen in society is associated with racism ect.


Because people don't know the REAL story behind it. Now, I'm not going to debate anymore about this, because you seem like a respectable member, and I'd rather not get punished for this. So I hope you have a good rest of the night.


Thanks! Have a good rest of your night as well!



How do you find my flag disrespectful when it says "Heritage not Hate" on it and plus to make you feel better that's my deceased cousin truck and flag
#1246. Posted:
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Got my first car a couple of months ago. G35 coupe.
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My truck right now/

1994 ford ranger.

making it into a prerunner
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#1248. Posted:
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Why do people lie so much? I bet 70% or more of the people on here that say they have good cars don't even have any car and are like 13
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Hay wrote Got my first car a couple of months ago. G35 coupe.
http://i40.tinypic.com/1znnaqc.jpg


You have good taste in cars. I wish i could find a high mileage one to use as a beater.
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Hay wrote Got my first car a couple of months ago. G35 coupe.
http://i40.tinypic.com/1znnaqc.jpg

G35s are amazing cars. My dad used to have a G35S a couple years ago. But we are all over 6 foot in my family, so cramming 4 six foot people into a small car. So then he got his 2012 charger SRT8 and he got me a 2011 charger R/T for my first car. Love them to death so far.

EDIT: LOL why the down vote, bud? xD


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