#1571. Posted:
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xCraZyxProductionZz wrote
A-10 wrote
xCraZyxProductionZz wrote
A-10 wrote
xCraZyxProductionZz wrote
Red-Bull wrote
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Yes finally an american who can drive a manual! the one thing i dont like about america is the amount of automatic cars there are!


If you were drag racing two of the same cars, one automatic, and one manual, the automatic would win because it shifts far more consistently than the person driving the manual car. So many people think manual cars go faster but in any drag race an automatic would win every time. In any other race no probably not, but if you ever race a car it's most likely going to be in a drag race unless you want to kill yourself trying to race down mountains.


OKAY. i got to butt in on this one.

So Mr.Racing expert,
What kind of drag racing do you watch?

High school drag racing?
Im really curious.


It's people like you who ruin this topic for people because you reply to somebody's comment without properly reading what they've said. I never said I was a "racing expert" first of all. I said that in a drag race an automatic car would most likely beat a manual car because of the shift time consistency.If you even have any knowledge about cars you would know that most drag racing cars are automatics. So if two of the same cars were drag racing an you have an automatic and a manual like I said, chances are that the automatic car is going to have the advantage unless you have someone who is ridiculously quick at shifting gears. And as I said before in any other race a manual would have the advantage over the automatic. I suggest you do some research, "Mr. Racing expert".

z06vette.com/forums/f4/faster-dra...ual-53203/

ls1tech.com/forums/general-mainte...anual.html

youtube.com/watch?v=JrCachFqD38

youtube.com/watch?v=6VVPDS8Qeig

thirdgen.org/techboard/organized-...-auto.html

forums.corral.net/forums/s-197-mu...stang.html - (First comment)

Did i say i was a Racing Expert? no. I just felt like you were a little cocky with your information, and at that time, got a little angry.

We all have our opinions, just like saying Ford vs Chevy, Import vs Muscle, its all opinions man.




Lol. I just feel like people underestimate automatics way too much. It is all opinions though that's true.

Like previously said, there are a lot more factors to it than just the state of it being an automatic or manual transmission.
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Let's get back on topic, shall we? Back to posting pics of our rides. This auto/manual debate could last ages.
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xCraZyxProductionZz wrote
A-10 wrote
xCraZyxProductionZz wrote
A-10 wrote
xCraZyxProductionZz wrote
Red-Bull wrote
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Yes finally an american who can drive a manual! the one thing i dont like about america is the amount of automatic cars there are!


If you were drag racing two of the same cars, one automatic, and one manual, the automatic would win because it shifts far more consistently than the person driving the manual car. So many people think manual cars go faster but in any drag race an automatic would win every time. In any other race no probably not, but if you ever race a car it's most likely going to be in a drag race unless you want to kill yourself trying to race down mountains.


OKAY. i got to butt in on this one.

So Mr.Racing expert,
What kind of drag racing do you watch?

High school drag racing?
Im really curious.


It's people like you who ruin this topic for people because you reply to somebody's comment without properly reading what they've said. I never said I was a "racing expert" first of all. I said that in a drag race an automatic car would most likely beat a manual car because of the shift time consistency.If you even have any knowledge about cars you would know that most drag racing cars are automatics. So if two of the same cars were drag racing an you have an automatic and a manual like I said, chances are that the automatic car is going to have the advantage unless you have someone who is ridiculously quick at shifting gears. And as I said before in any other race a manual would have the advantage over the automatic. I suggest you do some research, "Mr. Racing expert".

z06vette.com/forums/f4/faster-dra...ual-53203/

ls1tech.com/forums/general-mainte...anual.html

youtube.com/watch?v=JrCachFqD38

youtube.com/watch?v=6VVPDS8Qeig

thirdgen.org/techboard/organized-...-auto.html

forums.corral.net/forums/s-197-mu...stang.html - (First comment)

Did i say i was a Racing Expert? no. I just felt like you were a little cocky with your information, and at that time, got a little angry.

We all have our opinions, just like saying Ford vs Chevy, Import vs Muscle, its all opinions man.




Lol. I just feel like people underestimate automatics way too much. It is all opinions though that's true.

manual's are cooler, but even my old school dad agree's auto's are way quicker. They shift in less than milliseconds.

But the point on where more people use auto's in drag racing? that's a joke and not true at all.
#1574. Posted:
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CBR wrote
A-10 wrote
xCraZyxProductionZz wrote
Red-Bull wrote
Gubbins wrote Here is my 2014 GT Premium V8 Manual Mustang

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Yes finally an american who can drive a manual! the one thing i dont like about america is the amount of automatic cars there are!


If you were drag racing two of the same cars, one automatic, and one manual, the automatic would win because it shifts far more consistently than the person driving the manual car. So many people think manual cars go faster but in any drag race an automatic would win every time. In any other race no probably not, but if you ever race a car it's most likely going to be in a drag race unless you want to kill yourself trying to race down mountains.


OKAY. i got to butt in on this one.

So Mr.Racing expert,
What kind of drag racing do you watch?

High school drag racing?
Im really curious.


To be honest it depends on the driver. A manual would blow an automatic out of the water. I drive auto so I'm not some manual fanboy. But if the driver of the auto has balls and the manual driver doesn't... auto will win. Also depends on the condition of the car/parts. A manual Pontiac Fiero would never beat an automatic 2014 Camaro.

Those are fighting words. Im down to race you to show that I am faster then them all! :trollin:
#1575. Posted:
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Fiero wrote
CBR wrote
A-10 wrote
xCraZyxProductionZz wrote
Red-Bull wrote
Gubbins wrote Here is my 2014 GT Premium V8 Manual Mustang

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Yes finally an american who can drive a manual! the one thing i dont like about america is the amount of automatic cars there are!


If you were drag racing two of the same cars, one automatic, and one manual, the automatic would win because it shifts far more consistently than the person driving the manual car. So many people think manual cars go faster but in any drag race an automatic would win every time. In any other race no probably not, but if you ever race a car it's most likely going to be in a drag race unless you want to kill yourself trying to race down mountains.


OKAY. i got to butt in on this one.

So Mr.Racing expert,
What kind of drag racing do you watch?

High school drag racing?
Im really curious.


To be honest it depends on the driver. A manual would blow an automatic out of the water. I drive auto so I'm not some manual fanboy. But if the driver of the auto has balls and the manual driver doesn't... auto will win. Also depends on the condition of the car/parts. A manual Pontiac Fiero would never beat an automatic 2014 Camaro.

Those are fighting words. Im down to race you to show that I am faster then them all! :trollin:


Haha, Not putting down fiero's at all. Actually it's my dream car. But I did state a true fact
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WJL wrote
xCraZyxProductionZz wrote
A-10 wrote
xCraZyxProductionZz wrote
A-10 wrote
xCraZyxProductionZz wrote
Red-Bull wrote
Gubbins wrote Here is my 2014 GT Premium V8 Manual Mustang

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Yes finally an american who can drive a manual! the one thing i dont like about america is the amount of automatic cars there are!


If you were drag racing two of the same cars, one automatic, and one manual, the automatic would win because it shifts far more consistently than the person driving the manual car. So many people think manual cars go faster but in any drag race an automatic would win every time. In any other race no probably not, but if you ever race a car it's most likely going to be in a drag race unless you want to kill yourself trying to race down mountains.


OKAY. i got to butt in on this one.

So Mr.Racing expert,
What kind of drag racing do you watch?

High school drag racing?
Im really curious.


It's people like you who ruin this topic for people because you reply to somebody's comment without properly reading what they've said. I never said I was a "racing expert" first of all. I said that in a drag race an automatic car would most likely beat a manual car because of the shift time consistency.If you even have any knowledge about cars you would know that most drag racing cars are automatics. So if two of the same cars were drag racing an you have an automatic and a manual like I said, chances are that the automatic car is going to have the advantage unless you have someone who is ridiculously quick at shifting gears. And as I said before in any other race a manual would have the advantage over the automatic. I suggest you do some research, "Mr. Racing expert".

z06vette.com/forums/f4/faster-dra...ual-53203/

ls1tech.com/forums/general-mainte...anual.html

youtube.com/watch?v=JrCachFqD38

youtube.com/watch?v=6VVPDS8Qeig

thirdgen.org/techboard/organized-...-auto.html

forums.corral.net/forums/s-197-mu...stang.html - (First comment)

Did i say i was a Racing Expert? no. I just felt like you were a little cocky with your information, and at that time, got a little angry.

We all have our opinions, just like saying Ford vs Chevy, Import vs Muscle, its all opinions man.




Lol. I just feel like people underestimate automatics way too much. It is all opinions though that's true.

manual's are cooler, but even my old school dad agree's auto's are way quicker. They shift in less than milliseconds.

But the point on where more people use auto's in drag racing? that's a joke and not true at all.
Manuals are alot quicker than Automatics Just Saying :trollin:
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Jamo_Gaming wrote
WJL wrote
xCraZyxProductionZz wrote
A-10 wrote
xCraZyxProductionZz wrote
A-10 wrote
xCraZyxProductionZz wrote
Red-Bull wrote
Gubbins wrote Here is my 2014 GT Premium V8 Manual Mustang

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Yes finally an american who can drive a manual! the one thing i dont like about america is the amount of automatic cars there are!


If you were drag racing two of the same cars, one automatic, and one manual, the automatic would win because it shifts far more consistently than the person driving the manual car. So many people think manual cars go faster but in any drag race an automatic would win every time. In any other race no probably not, but if you ever race a car it's most likely going to be in a drag race unless you want to kill yourself trying to race down mountains.


OKAY. i got to butt in on this one.

So Mr.Racing expert,
What kind of drag racing do you watch?

High school drag racing?
Im really curious.


It's people like you who ruin this topic for people because you reply to somebody's comment without properly reading what they've said. I never said I was a "racing expert" first of all. I said that in a drag race an automatic car would most likely beat a manual car because of the shift time consistency.If you even have any knowledge about cars you would know that most drag racing cars are automatics. So if two of the same cars were drag racing an you have an automatic and a manual like I said, chances are that the automatic car is going to have the advantage unless you have someone who is ridiculously quick at shifting gears. And as I said before in any other race a manual would have the advantage over the automatic. I suggest you do some research, "Mr. Racing expert".

z06vette.com/forums/f4/faster-dra...ual-53203/

ls1tech.com/forums/general-mainte...anual.html

youtube.com/watch?v=JrCachFqD38

youtube.com/watch?v=6VVPDS8Qeig

thirdgen.org/techboard/organized-...-auto.html

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Did i say i was a Racing Expert? no. I just felt like you were a little cocky with your information, and at that time, got a little angry.

We all have our opinions, just like saying Ford vs Chevy, Import vs Muscle, its all opinions man.




Lol. I just feel like people underestimate automatics way too much. It is all opinions though that's true.


manual's are cooler, but even my old school dad agree's auto's are way quicker. They shift in less than milliseconds.

But the point on where more people use auto's in drag racing? that's a joke and not true at all.
Manuals are alot quicker than Automatics Just Saying :trollin:

Too many different variable come into play to say that, but your trolling so....
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lol i don't have a car due too the fact that i'm 15 but i'm planing on getting a 08 Mits Evo x
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Yes finally an american who can drive a manual! the one thing i dont like about america is the amount of automatic cars there are!


If you were drag racing two of the same cars, one automatic, and one manual, the automatic would win because it shifts far more consistently than the person driving the manual car. So many people think manual cars go faster but in any drag race an automatic would win every time. In any other race no probably not, but if you ever race a car it's most likely going to be in a drag race unless you want to kill yourself trying to race down mountains.


OKAY. i got to butt in on this one.

So Mr.Racing expert,
What kind of drag racing do you watch?

High school drag racing?
Im really curious.


It's people like you who ruin this topic for people because you reply to somebody's comment without properly reading what they've said. I never said I was a "racing expert" first of all. I said that in a drag race an automatic car would most likely beat a manual car because of the shift time consistency.If you even have any knowledge about cars you would know that most drag racing cars are automatics. So if two of the same cars were drag racing an you have an automatic and a manual like I said, chances are that the automatic car is going to have the advantage unless you have someone who is ridiculously quick at shifting gears. And as I said before in any other race a manual would have the advantage over the automatic. I suggest you do some research, "Mr. Racing expert".

z06vette.com/forums/f4/faster-dra...ual-53203/

ls1tech.com/forums/general-mainte...anual.html

youtube.com/watch?v=JrCachFqD38

youtube.com/watch?v=6VVPDS8Qeig

thirdgen.org/techboard/organized-...-auto.html

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Most true drag cars are manuals actually, if your dragging a 2013 mustang then it could be auto. And honestly manual is better at the track, if you actually know how to drive stick consistently then you can blow any auto out of the water.

Sorry but that's completely wrong, but I always say to each his own.

You can argue all day about the what ifs and compare built racing tranny's to conventional stock trannies, many variables so no real point in arguing using auto/manual is better theory.

Anytime a car is faster than an 11.0 or so, it's VERY difficult to keep up with an automatic. A properly built automatic, with C4's, TH400's and Powerglides being the most common.

You have to keep in mind its hard to keep up especially when there are hybrids out there 2-speed - 5-speeds with a converter, its hard to keep up, autos do lose some HP but pick up a few 10th on ET, the war on auto/manual is really just a battle of who is more ignorant to the facts.

hugh horsepower cars like Pro-Stock do use manual but most other classes that compete for straight line time slips are all going to build a auto trans over a manual, on the other hand a manual is a more popular option at the track. I drive a manual because its a Daily driver and I prefer it but I was spending tons of money to shave seconds off my time a auto is a better option. That's why when people start drag racing you see them a lot of times swapping there manual trans for a auto and building it up with crazy shift points and high stall converters and trans brakes things that are undoable with a cut& dry manual transmission.
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