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OhDiegoCosta wrote
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OhDiegoCosta wrote There's a reason Alex Ferguson was such a fantastic manager - Even when his teams were dominating, he still had the guts to point out their flaws; same with Mourinho in his criticisms of Hazard - There's nothing wrong with demanding better out of a system that's doing well.


You need to read my comments , Your talking about 2 different things here.Its fine to be CRITICAL , Saying that Hazard needs to score more or whatever.

But to complain about losing , Complain about "Only" being 3PTS ahead is just being greedy ,As i said its fine to be critical ,Its even fine to be a little pissed off with a result but to be moaning about being 3PTS top of the table...


I don't think we're discussing two different things..

Being critical of the team is the same as being critical about our points because points come from wins and good performances - Any other season, I'd agree with you but not this season. The start we've had in terms of performances has been spectacular. Critics and rival managers have admitted that. Yes, the idea of us going invincible was a little deluded but even fans mentioning that as a potential highlights just how impressive we've been. Meanwhile City (who have a fantastic squad) haven't quite been up to par and well.. the less said about the other teams the better *cough* Liverpool *cough*. There's no doubt that our rivals will start to up their performances and start gaining points at a faster rate. I think it's personally reasonable to wish that we'd picked up more points (i.e. Sloppy defending vs United with a minute to go, not holding a lead against 10 men Man City - Yes that is ridiculously picky but the United one especially is valid) so that when City/United/etc. start mounting a serious title challenge, we have a little more breathing room.

If wanting as much success as possible is "greedy", I am greedy, no doubt! But that's because we've got the team, the manager and the background staff to dominate football. We've been the saviour of the BPL's champions league places in recent years due to CL efficiency yet we have nothing to show for it. I just want this year to the year we prove just how good we are.

I wouldn't like this to turn in to an argument because I completely understand your position - I just hold a different and stricter expectation of the club under the current circumstances (don't get me wrong, 3 points clear is still a great position to be in)


Chelsea, so it seems, only need a momentary lapse in their high standard to concede. That was the problem with us against Leicester, we dominated and one simple mistake made us crumble. Obviously nothing as dramatic happens to Chelsea since the squad is extremely confident in comparison to my reds.

One thing I have realised is that Chelsea lack that killer instinct in the big games. They play for the win by one goal which by all means is still a result, you won. But playing and parking the bus when 1 up against another team that can strike you down will eventually bite you in the arse (City, United have both done that this season).
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OhDiegoCosta wrote
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OhDiegoCosta wrote There's a reason Alex Ferguson was such a fantastic manager - Even when his teams were dominating, he still had the guts to point out their flaws; same with Mourinho in his criticisms of Hazard - There's nothing wrong with demanding better out of a system that's doing well.


You need to read my comments , Your talking about 2 different things here.Its fine to be CRITICAL , Saying that Hazard needs to score more or whatever.

But to complain about losing , Complain about "Only" being 3PTS ahead is just being greedy ,As i said its fine to be critical ,Its even fine to be a little pissed off with a result but to be moaning about being 3PTS top of the table...


I don't think we're discussing two different things..

Being critical of the team is the same as being critical about our points because points come from wins and good performances - Any other season, I'd agree with you but not this season. The start we've had in terms of performances has been spectacular. Critics and rival managers have admitted that. Yes, the idea of us going invincible was a little deluded but even fans mentioning that as a potential highlights just how impressive we've been. Meanwhile City (who have a fantastic squad) haven't quite been up to par and well.. the less said about the other teams the better *cough* Liverpool *cough*. There's no doubt that our rivals will start to up their performances and start gaining points at a faster rate. I think it's personally reasonable to wish that we'd picked up more points (i.e. Sloppy defending vs United with a minute to go, not holding a lead against 10 men Man City - Yes that is ridiculously picky but the United one especially is valid) so that when City/United/etc. start mounting a serious title challenge, we have a little more breathing room.

If wanting as much success as possible is "greedy", I am greedy, no doubt! But that's because we've got the team, the manager and the background staff to dominate football. We've been the saviour of the BPL's champions league places in recent years due to CL efficiency yet we have nothing to show for it. I just want this year to the year we prove just how good we are.

I wouldn't like this to turn in to an argument because I completely understand your position - I just hold a different and stricter expectation of the club under the current circumstances (don't get me wrong, 3 points clear is still a great position to be in)


I want success as bad as you ,You say you are greedy in that respect and so am i , I understand the level of our club and we should be competing both in Europe and in england.If we dont win anything this season i will feel as though we have failed so i get what your coming from , But every game is diffucult in the PL , There is no point complaining about "Only" being 3PTs ahead - Complain about the reasons we are only 3PTS ahead and be critical of them is fine

City have been mounting recently and they cant be doing that bad or we would be further in front,If your mention things we can improve fair enough but just moaning about us not being more than 3PTS infront is greedy.

Im fine with the fact we are only 3Pts ahead , But i am critcal of the fact (IMO) Joses tactics have cost us 4 points vs rivals (City and united) , We got ahead and he brought on mikel and let them get at us for the remaining time

Im also critical of the fact that the attacking trio should be scoring more and not relying on a 36 year old ST to score vs newcastle , We didn't score vs sunderland when we have 3 of the best attacking mids in the prem.

But im still glad we are 3PTS ahead.
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No aguero is injured:( he was having an amazing season and was the deadliest striker:(
im not even a city fan ima aguero fan because he once played for athletico
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AriGrande wrote No aguero is injured:( he was having an amazing season and was the deadliest striker:(
im not even a city fan ima aguero fan because he once played for athletico


It is a shame tbh as he is a brilliant player , Unless players are truly ***** i never want to see them get injured however the injury of Aguero does help CFC alot and also i just released if he is out for a while , Diego costa could take over as top goalscorer.
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Aguero is so fun to watch he can destroy teams on his own he tore apart Munich
he reminds me exactly like Thierry Henry my all time favorite player
I hope aguero can get fit soon its sad seeing such an Amazing season go with injury
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Manchester United vs Southampton on Monday 8 o'clock kick off, should be a great game.
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OhDiegoCosta wrote There's a reason Alex Ferguson was such a fantastic manager - Even when his teams were dominating, he still had the guts to point out their flaws; same with Mourinho in his criticisms of Hazard - There's nothing wrong with demanding better out of a system that's doing well.


You need to read my comments , Your talking about 2 different things here.Its fine to be CRITICAL , Saying that Hazard needs to score more or whatever.

But to complain about losing , Complain about "Only" being 3PTS ahead is just being greedy ,As i said its fine to be critical ,Its even fine to be a little pissed off with a result but to be moaning about being 3PTS top of the table...


I don't think we're discussing two different things..

Being critical of the team is the same as being critical about our points because points come from wins and good performances - Any other season, I'd agree with you but not this season. The start we've had in terms of performances has been spectacular. Critics and rival managers have admitted that. Yes, the idea of us going invincible was a little deluded but even fans mentioning that as a potential highlights just how impressive we've been. Meanwhile City (who have a fantastic squad) haven't quite been up to par and well.. the less said about the other teams the better *cough* Liverpool *cough*. There's no doubt that our rivals will start to up their performances and start gaining points at a faster rate. I think it's personally reasonable to wish that we'd picked up more points (i.e. Sloppy defending vs United with a minute to go, not holding a lead against 10 men Man City - Yes that is ridiculously picky but the United one especially is valid) so that when City/United/etc. start mounting a serious title challenge, we have a little more breathing room.

If wanting as much success as possible is "greedy", I am greedy, no doubt! But that's because we've got the team, the manager and the background staff to dominate football. We've been the saviour of the BPL's champions league places in recent years due to CL efficiency yet we have nothing to show for it. I just want this year to the year we prove just how good we are.

I wouldn't like this to turn in to an argument because I completely understand your position - I just hold a different and stricter expectation of the club under the current circumstances (don't get me wrong, 3 points clear is still a great position to be in)


I want success as bad as you ,You say you are greedy in that respect and so am i , I understand the level of our club and we should be competing both in Europe and in england.If we dont win anything this season i will feel as though we have failed so i get what your coming from , But every game is diffucult in the PL , There is no point complaining about "Only" being 3PTs ahead - Complain about the reasons we are only 3PTS ahead and be critical of them is fine

City have been mounting recently and they cant be doing that bad or we would be further in front,If your mention things we can improve fair enough but just moaning about us not being more than 3PTS infront is greedy.

Im fine with the fact we are only 3Pts ahead , But i am critcal of the fact (IMO) Joses tactics have cost us 4 points vs rivals (City and united) , We got ahead and he brought on mikel and let them get at us for the remaining time

Im also critical of the fact that the attacking trio should be scoring more and not relying on a 36 year old ST to score vs newcastle , We didn't score vs sunderland when we have 3 of the best attacking mids in the prem.

But im still glad we are 3PTS ahead.


We seem to be critical about the same things. I'm not annoyed about us being only 3 points ahead purely for its own sake - In different circumstances 3 points ahead would be great. It's because of those reasons you've mentioned (City and United games particularly) that we're only 3 points ahead.

You say "complain about the reasons we are only 3PTS ahead and be critical of them is fine", that is exactly what I'm doing but if you complain about the reasons for only being 3 points ahead, with those reasons in mind, it's logical to be unhappy with our only being 3 points ahead also..

I apologise if I came across as someone that's unhappy with an obviously relatively good position with no justification. That's very much not the case.
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I feel the need to cry.


If now was a time for him to get injured, unfortunately now would be the time.

I don't want to call them "easy" fixtures, because typical City is always a thing, but we won't need him quite as badly.

http://puu.sh/dlydS/8e2f9e7532.png

I think Jovetic, Dzeko & Pozo should do alright, hopefully he's back before Everton / Chelsea.
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van Persie does iit again, what a hero.

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