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DC19_ wrote Wolfsburg line up 23 million bid for Chelsea forward Andre Schurrle.

23 MILLION. Unreal banter.


Wouldn't let him go for nowhere near that price

Shurrle is underated, think he's a fantastic player, doubt chelsea want him going anywhere too soon.


He's awful for us. We could let him go, buy Reus, and still make a profit.

We'd be stupid to turn it down.



Your an idiot , 23M for Andre is underpriced , He is a world class player waiting to happen.
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CompleteDesigns wrote
DC19_ wrote
iBaby wrote
DC19_ wrote Wolfsburg line up 23 million bid for Chelsea forward Andre Schurrle.

23 MILLION. Unreal banter.


Wouldn't let him go for nowhere near that price

Shurrle is underated, think he's a fantastic player, doubt chelsea want him going anywhere too soon.


He's awful for us. We could let him go, buy Reus, and still make a profit.

We'd be stupid to turn it down.



Your an idiot , 23M for Andre is underpriced , He is a world class player waiting to happen.


No he isn't, he's just an extremely shit version of Reus.
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DC19_ wrote
CompleteDesigns wrote
DC19_ wrote
iBaby wrote
DC19_ wrote Wolfsburg line up 23 million bid for Chelsea forward Andre Schurrle.

23 MILLION. Unreal banter.


Wouldn't let him go for nowhere near that price

Shurrle is underated, think he's a fantastic player, doubt chelsea want him going anywhere too soon.


He's awful for us. We could let him go, buy Reus, and still make a profit.

We'd be stupid to turn it down.



Your an idiot , 23M for Andre is underpriced , He is a world class player waiting to happen.


No he isn't, he's just an extremely shit version of Reus.


wait so your telling me, The player who plays in the bundesliga almost every game , Is better than the player who plays in the BPL and hardly gets gametime to prove himself?

Im shocked
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DC19_ wrote
CompleteDesigns wrote
DC19_ wrote
iBaby wrote
DC19_ wrote Wolfsburg line up 23 million bid for Chelsea forward Andre Schurrle.

23 MILLION. Unreal banter.


Wouldn't let him go for nowhere near that price

Shurrle is underated, think he's a fantastic player, doubt chelsea want him going anywhere too soon.


He's awful for us. We could let him go, buy Reus, and still make a profit.

We'd be stupid to turn it down.



Your an idiot , 23M for Andre is underpriced , He is a world class player waiting to happen.


No he isn't, he's just an extremely shit version of Reus.


Don't think you watch football, Schurrle is so underated, did you watch the world cup? the goal he scored against brazil

Everytime he's put on the pitch he has a fairly decent game

23m is a low price and I'd buy him for that easily
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iBaby wrote
DC19_ wrote
CompleteDesigns wrote
DC19_ wrote
iBaby wrote
DC19_ wrote Wolfsburg line up 23 million bid for Chelsea forward Andre Schurrle.

23 MILLION. Unreal banter.


Wouldn't let him go for nowhere near that price

Shurrle is underated, think he's a fantastic player, doubt chelsea want him going anywhere too soon.


He's awful for us. We could let him go, buy Reus, and still make a profit.

We'd be stupid to turn it down.



Your an idiot , 23M for Andre is underpriced , He is a world class player waiting to happen.


No he isn't, he's just an extremely shit version of Reus.


Don't think you watch football, Schurrle is so underated, did you watch the world cup? the goal he scored against brazil

Everytime he's put on the pitch he has a fairly decent game

23m is a low price and I'd buy him for that easily


He doesent have a fairly decent game every game , Im one who thinks he deseves time but he has had (A few) Awefull games for us but he has had some great games for us too.

He is lucky though imo , Kevin de bruyne was only allowed 1 bad game before he was sold , Andre has had far more bad games than that.That could indicate that he has faith in Andre and he didnt in KDB i dont know.
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iBaby wrote
DC19_ wrote
CompleteDesigns wrote
DC19_ wrote
iBaby wrote
DC19_ wrote Wolfsburg line up 23 million bid for Chelsea forward Andre Schurrle.

23 MILLION. Unreal banter.


Wouldn't let him go for nowhere near that price

Shurrle is underated, think he's a fantastic player, doubt chelsea want him going anywhere too soon.


He's awful for us. We could let him go, buy Reus, and still make a profit.

We'd be stupid to turn it down.



Your an idiot , 23M for Andre is underpriced , He is a world class player waiting to happen.


No he isn't, he's just an extremely shit version of Reus.


Don't think you watch football, Schurrle is so underated, did you watch the world cup? the goal he scored against brazil

Everytime he's put on the pitch he has a fairly decent game

23m is a low price and I'd buy him for that easily


He's better for Germany than he is for Chelsea. All he does is shoot, and rarely scores.
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CompleteDesigns wrote
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SlipMode wrote Could be that a player has always wanted to work with a certain manager? (Before everyone hypes up Jose, he is amazing in my view, but perhaps not all players see it that way)


I know you only used it as an example, but Mourinho has already come out with his admiration for Varane, talking about the great relationship they had when he was at Real


Yeah and fairplay in all honesty, in the case of Varane specifically, I could see him going to Chelsea, more so than Arsenal sadly

In that post Varane was just the medium I used to portray any big player


Not hating but i think alot of what you were saying is wrong.

Could be that a player has supported/admired that club for a long time? e.g Falcao to United or Sanchez to Arsenal.

I have seen no evidence that these 2 players have supoorted / admired the clubs for a long time , Falcoa uploaded on twitter "Hala madrid" and was exicted to join Real before he went to manchester united , There werent many other options considering he didnt want to be in monocoa and City and Chelsea both had alternatives.

Also Sanchez was only linked with Arsenal (And maybe liverpool?) its not as if these players had the greatest of places to choose from and they picked to go the route they did , They barely had a choice.

Could be that a player has always wanted to work with a certain manager? (Before everyone hypes up Jose, he is amazing in my view, but perhaps not all players see it that way)

This does play a part and i think the relationship a manager shares with his players is crucual , Look at the way Jose is loved and he and his players were crying after he left inter.

However its not something that makes a player move IMO , Its not a dealbreaker / dealmaker , Look at fabregas you would never expect them too to get along after they criticized each other , Bad relationships can be made good and vice versa.

Could be the players he could work beside?
Varane is a French CB and has played alongside Koscielney plenty of times - relationships are big in football - it is undoubtable that Ozil chose to join Arsenal partly because of Podolski and Mertesacker's influence.

Again did Ozil have much choice in coming to arsenal? , He said he didnt want to leave RM and he was only offered to arsenal...Again it makes a slight difference but the best players adapt to whoever they play , All the (Big) prem clubs have decent CBs options so its not as Varane would be left as the sole good CB anywhere he went (City - Kompany , Chelsea - Terry / Azpi as well in the defence) , Maybe other than United.

Before everyone starts hurling abuse at me, I'm not saying any of this is true, I'm just drumming up examples of when big players don't necessarily go to the title winners, and trying to express that you shouldn't just automatically think players will go to your Chelseas and your Citys because theyre in contention for the title.

I see where your coming from , A player wont automatically go for a club that is title contentions , But if your a club like city or chelsea , Its not as if the only catch is "Title contenders" , Using chelsea as an example we are not just "Title contenders" we are a young team (Especially beneficial when talking about Varane) , One of the best managers ,Amazing talent , A good plan + almost guaranteed success in the future.

The way you make it sound as if going to city or chelsea , The only benfit you get is the "Title contenders" and if you go to arsneal you can play alongside good players or with a good manager or whatever.

No offence but as i have mentioned Sanchez and Ozil didnt have the option to join clubs like RM,Chelsea/City and they were offered to clubs like liverpool and arsenal , Welbeck again was only offered to arsenal.If you look at the players we sign - Diego costa one of the most sought after STs in the world - Eden hazard - The most sought after young player when he was at lille (I swear every pl club wanted him).


Mate don't worry about me taking offence, this is a forum - a place where we debate/put forward our views, you are certainly entitled to yours just as much I am entitled to mine.

You make some good points indeed, there are indeed arguments to suggest Ozil was forced into a move - but I don't think it was solely Arsenal that wanted him, so I'm going to stick to the Mertesacker/Podolski influence as remaining valid

I personally think your reference to Falcao tweeting "Hala Madrid" sparking all sorts of speculation as to whether he'd be going to Real is irrelevant, as the tweet was passed off as someone hacking/playing a joke on him - perhaps it was him, but the fact he chose to go to Utd turned my opinion on whether he actually was hacked from being doubtful to believing it - also he had been part of a BBC presentation where he was asked the exact question we all ask ourselves.. "Why didn't you go to Madrid", which also have a great manager, a fantastic team and most likey to win all the trophies they are competing for - and he made the case that Utd was the biggest club of his generation when he was a young footballer - and how he used to admire Cantona, Van Nistelrooy, Solskjaer etc, and thats what made him want to be part of the club.

"But if your a club like city or chelsea , Its not as if the only catch is "Title contenders" , Using chelsea as an example we are not just "Title contenders" we are a young team"

I apologise if I made it seem that Chelsea's only appeal was "Title contenders" - this is far from what I meant. This wasn't a personal attack on Chelsea, and no team are just "Title contenders", City have a great plan too, and have a spectacular squad who are also almost guaranteed success. My point was that players may pass up those opportunities for personal preference - i.e Falcao as I've just stated why.

In summary, yes you are right, sometimes players are forced/pressured into a move. Sometimes they do just follow success and go to the teams with the most world class players etc. But when we take our personal opinions aside, it would just be plain wrong to suggest that players don't make their decisions on a lot of the questions I brought up within my first post. You may question the examples I have used which is fair enough, but the principles still remain strong.
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DC19_ wrote
iBaby wrote
DC19_ wrote
CompleteDesigns wrote
DC19_ wrote
iBaby wrote
DC19_ wrote Wolfsburg line up 23 million bid for Chelsea forward Andre Schurrle.

23 MILLION. Unreal banter.


Wouldn't let him go for nowhere near that price

Shurrle is underated, think he's a fantastic player, doubt chelsea want him going anywhere too soon.


He's awful for us. We could let him go, buy Reus, and still make a profit.

We'd be stupid to turn it down.



Your an idiot , 23M for Andre is underpriced , He is a world class player waiting to happen.


No he isn't, he's just an extremely shit version of Reus.


Don't think you watch football, Schurrle is so underated, did you watch the world cup? the goal he scored against brazil

Everytime he's put on the pitch he has a fairly decent game

23m is a low price and I'd buy him for that easily


He's better for Germany than he is for Chelsea. All he does is shoot, and rarely scores.


Cause oscar and willian who are both regular starters compared to andre who barely starts are banging in goals for fun arent they?
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CompleteDesigns wrote
DC19_ wrote
iBaby wrote
DC19_ wrote
CompleteDesigns wrote
DC19_ wrote
iBaby wrote
DC19_ wrote Wolfsburg line up 23 million bid for Chelsea forward Andre Schurrle.

23 MILLION. Unreal banter.


Wouldn't let him go for nowhere near that price

Shurrle is underated, think he's a fantastic player, doubt chelsea want him going anywhere too soon.


He's awful for us. We could let him go, buy Reus, and still make a profit.

We'd be stupid to turn it down.



Your an idiot , 23M for Andre is underpriced , He is a world class player waiting to happen.


No he isn't, he's just an extremely shit version of Reus.


Don't think you watch football, Schurrle is so underated, did you watch the world cup? the goal he scored against brazil

Everytime he's put on the pitch he has a fairly decent game

23m is a low price and I'd buy him for that easily


He's better for Germany than he is for Chelsea. All he does is shoot, and rarely scores.


Cause oscar and willian who are both regular starters compared to andre who barely starts are banging in goals for fun arent they?


They both offer a lot more to the team than Schurrle does.
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