Coquelin wrote

Fielding wrote He publicly stated he wants to fight for his place and that he wants to be a legend at United. One sniff from PSG and he's quivering at the knees begging to go there for the easy title and big money. Gets around 120k after tax here, will get 170k at PSG. Snakes are devious and cunning, he's been cunning in his move.

Thus, Di Maria being a snake.


Anyway, Pedro will be his replacement and he's got the heart, the desire and the love for the shirt he has on his chest. Will play much better in our league than Di Maria, and he'll play for the badge.

I wouldn't class that as being a snake, in my eyes a snake in football is moving to a rival club. If we hadn't persisted with Ozil when he was poor, dropped him to the bench and he moved to PSG I wouldn't warrant him a snake. If he moved abroad then came back to a rival or went to a rival straight from Arsenal then yes I would.

Pedro is a great player and you could be right. Talent and ability wise he's not on the same level as Di Maria but if he does fight like you said that makes up for it tbf.

Fielding wrote

Coquelin wrote

Fielding wrote He publicly stated he wants to fight for his place and that he wants to be a legend at United. One sniff from PSG and he's quivering at the knees begging to go there for the easy title and big money. Gets around 120k after tax here, will get 170k at PSG. Snakes are devious and cunning, he's been cunning in his move.

Thus, Di Maria being a snake.


Anyway, Pedro will be his replacement and he's got the heart, the desire and the love for the shirt he has on his chest. Will play much better in our league than Di Maria, and he'll play for the badge.

I wouldn't class that as being a snake, in my eyes a snake in football is moving to a rival club. If we hadn't persisted with Ozil when he was poor, dropped him to the bench and he moved to PSG I wouldn't warrant him a snake. If he moved abroad then came back to a rival or went to a rival straight from Arsenal then yes I would.

Pedro is a great player and you could be right. Talent and ability wise he's not on the same level as Di Maria but if he does fight like you said that makes up for it tbf.

He's used us as a stepping stone to go to Paris. He had no intention of staying with us, if you get benched by Young you're a spineless toad. He's a snake man, had no desire to be in Manchester. SNAKE.

Yeah can't wait till he joins, fast, skillfull, technical. Not world class, but he's like a very very talented James Milner. Every team needs one.

Coquelin wrote

Fielding wrote

Coquelin wrote

Fielding wrote He publicly stated he wants to fight for his place and that he wants to be a legend at United. One sniff from PSG and he's quivering at the knees begging to go there for the easy title and big money. Gets around 120k after tax here, will get 170k at PSG. Snakes are devious and cunning, he's been cunning in his move.

Thus, Di Maria being a snake.


Anyway, Pedro will be his replacement and he's got the heart, the desire and the love for the shirt he has on his chest. Will play much better in our league than Di Maria, and he'll play for the badge.

I wouldn't class that as being a snake, in my eyes a snake in football is moving to a rival club. If we hadn't persisted with Ozil when he was poor, dropped him to the bench and he moved to PSG I wouldn't warrant him a snake. If he moved abroad then came back to a rival or went to a rival straight from Arsenal then yes I would.

Pedro is a great player and you could be right. Talent and ability wise he's not on the same level as Di Maria but if he does fight like you said that makes up for it tbf.

He's used us as a stepping stone to go to Paris. He had no intention of staying with us, if you get benched by Young you're a spineless toad. He's a snake man, had no desire to be in Manchester. SNAKE.

Yeah can't wait till he joins, fast, skillfull, technical. Not world class, but he's like a very very talented James Milner. Every team needs one.

See again I disagree. I don't think he's used United as a stepping stone. If he was getting games I doubt he would have left thus that's not using United as a stepping stone. He's one of the best players in world football and he'll be looking thinking I'm being benched by Ashley Young, ego most likely comes into it too. Also it's known that a lot of players don't like working under LVG, that too could be a reason for leaving.

Yeah that's a good comparison tbf. He is a bit like Milner, work rate wise, has a lot more in his locker going forward than Milner.

360MoTioN wrote

Coquelin wrote

Fielding wrote

Coquelin wrote

Fielding wrote He publicly stated he wants to fight for his place and that he wants to be a legend at United. One sniff from PSG and he's quivering at the knees begging to go there for the easy title and big money. Gets around 120k after tax here, will get 170k at PSG. Snakes are devious and cunning, he's been cunning in his move.

Thus, Di Maria being a snake.


Anyway, Pedro will be his replacement and he's got the heart, the desire and the love for the shirt he has on his chest. Will play much better in our league than Di Maria, and he'll play for the badge.

I wouldn't class that as being a snake, in my eyes a snake in football is moving to a rival club. If we hadn't persisted with Ozil when he was poor, dropped him to the bench and he moved to PSG I wouldn't warrant him a snake. If he moved abroad then came back to a rival or went to a rival straight from Arsenal then yes I would.

Pedro is a great player and you could be right. Talent and ability wise he's not on the same level as Di Maria but if he does fight like you said that makes up for it tbf.

He's used us as a stepping stone to go to Paris. He had no intention of staying with us, if you get benched by Young you're a spineless toad. He's a snake man, had no desire to be in Manchester. SNAKE.

Yeah can't wait till he joins, fast, skillfull, technical. Not world class, but he's like a very very talented James Milner. Every team needs one.

See again I disagree. I don't think he's used United as a stepping stone. If he was getting games I doubt he would have left thus that's not using United as a stepping stone. He's one of the best players in world football and he'll be looking thinking I'm being benched by Ashley Young, ego most likely comes into it too. Also it's known that a lot of players don't like working under LVG, that too could be a reason for leaving.

Yeah that's a good comparison tbf. He is a bit like Milner, work rate wise, has a lot more in his locker going forward than Milner.

Lots of Arsenal fans were calling Fabregas a snake when he moved to Barca.

Fielding wrote Pedro is the same sort of class that you'd put your James, Isco in etc. Great player to have in your team and he's gonna peak soon, so great stuff.

+ Di Maria had a job and a contract to honour, it was widely known that if PSG hadn't had FFP holding them back he would've joined em last season but we got him cause no one else could afford him. Now they can he's off. He used us as the stepping stone to get to his easy league destination.

He's got the mentality of a 14 year old. I'm certain many players wouldn't play under LVG, and they're the same players that wouldn't want to play under Fergie. Fergie had a massive ego, as does LVG, and no one is bigger than the manager. Many players feel they are now, even English players (Sterling, Di Maria etc) and they try and bully their clubs. Fergie, like LVG is doing, is having none of it and letting him leave.

Ah well.

Coquelin wrote

Fielding wrote Pedro is the same sort of class that you'd put your James, Isco in etc. Great player to have in your team and he's gonna peak soon, so great stuff.

+ Di Maria had a job and a contract to honour, it was widely known that if PSG hadn't had FFP holding them back he would've joined em last season but we got him cause no one else could afford him. Now they can he's off. He used us as the stepping stone to get to his easy league destination.

He's got the mentality of a 14 year old. I'm certain many players wouldn't play under LVG, and they're the same players that wouldn't want to play under Fergie. Fergie had a massive ego, as does LVG, and no one is bigger than the manager. Many players feel they are now, even English players (Sterling, Di Maria etc) and they try and bully their clubs. Fergie, like LVG is doing, is having none of it and letting him leave.

Ah well.

Pedro is a very good player, however I do rate Rodriguez more but he's not far off.

The problem with that theory is that if Di Maria had been playing well, Man United wouldn't be selling him just now. They wouldn't need too. Therefore Di Maria would stay at United. Man United obviously want to sell him, as well as him wanting to leave. If Man United wanted to keep Di Maria they would but they don't want a 50m+ player sitting on the bench so they're cashing in on him.

The difference between LVG and Fergie is ( minus the last few years when Fergie didn't rebuild the squad ) that Fergie done best for the team, imo LVG doesn't.

LVG dropped balon d'or winner at the time Rivaldo because he wanted to play in a new position, after that Barca went trophyless for years, he then released Rivaldo, after Brazil had won the WC, following season Barca were in the relegation zone in the middle of the season and LVG was sacked. That would never have happened to Fergie. LVG has too many bust ups with players, a lot more than Fergie had.

CompleteDesigns wrote

Coquelin wrote

Fielding wrote Pedro is the same sort of class that you'd put your James, Isco in etc. Great player to have in your team and he's gonna peak soon, so great stuff.

+ Di Maria had a job and a contract to honour, it was widely known that if PSG hadn't had FFP holding them back he would've joined em last season but we got him cause no one else could afford him. Now they can he's off. He used us as the stepping stone to get to his easy league destination.

He's got the mentality of a 14 year old. I'm certain many players wouldn't play under LVG, and they're the same players that wouldn't want to play under Fergie. Fergie had a massive ego, as does LVG, and no one is bigger than the manager. Many players feel they are now, even English players (Sterling, Di Maria etc) and they try and bully their clubs. Fergie, like LVG is doing, is having none of it and letting him leave.

Ah well.

Pedro is a very good player, however I do rate Rodriguez more but he's not far off.

The problem with that theory is that if Di Maria had been playing well, Man United wouldn't be selling him just now. They wouldn't need too. Therefore Di Maria would stay at United. Man United obviously want to sell him, as well as him wanting to leave. If Man United wanted to keep Di Maria they would but they don't want a 50m+ player sitting on the bench so they're cashing in on him.

The difference between LVG and Fergie is ( minus the last few years when Fergie didn't rebuild the squad ) that Fergie done best for the team, imo LVG doesn't.

LVG dropped balon d'or winner at the time Rivaldo because he wanted to play in a new position, after that Barca went trophyless for years, he then released Rivaldo, after Brazil had won the WC, following season Barca were in the relegation zone in the middle of the season and LVG was sacked. That would never have happened to Fergie. LVG has too many bust ups with players, a lot more than Fergie had.

Id agree , I like a manager who if you act up , Your out of the squad or sold depending on how bad it was , And someone who can critisize a player publicly as well BUT it has to be strategic.

Mourinho is a master of it IMO , Hazard turned up late to training , He was out of the squad and when he wasent performing he was criticized by mourinho publicity and he has been much better since.

It seems like LVG is doing way too much of this right now , And IMO you have to be trusted if you do it , With jose and hazard they have a trust now , Jose has come in and won the leauge and done everything here you can put trust in him , But LVG hasent done anything in england yet , He needs to shut up a bit IMO untill he wins something,