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So I turn 17 in Feb and have been trying to find a car. I have just about $7,500. At first I was looking at Mustangs and 350z but decided against because they are RWD and I need something to get around in Snow.
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I don't no what's good over there but we usually use utes here for snow an stuff an they do the job quite well expensive to setup but do the job perfect
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get a nice jeep bro great handling and clean af
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I'd get something reliable and avoid flashy or fast for a first car, especially in snowy climates.


Check out Honda, Toyota etc, avoid an old German car if you can't afford maintenance

Regarding RWD in snow, if you're getting constant snow invest in winter tyres, they're what you need and should have especially in colder climates, RWD/FWD with winter tyres is better than AWD on summers in the winter.
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Lobbers wrote I'd get something reliable and avoid flashy or fast for a first car, especially in snowy climates.


Check out Honda, Toyota etc, avoid an old German car if you can't afford maintenance

Regarding RWD in snow, if you're getting constant snow invest in winter tyres, they're what you need and should have especially in colder climates, RWD/FWD with winter tyres is better than AWD on summers in the winter.



I wouldn't avoid flashy, I'd just know that a 2 door car will cost more on insurance. Check out an EVO or Impreza, they're decent looking AWD cars.

A RWD will never do as good as a AWD in snow even if the AWD is on summer tires and the RWD is on winters. Even though summer tires don't grip as well, once you're moving the hard part is steering. A RWD car has trouble steering in snow and ice whereas an AWD will have less of a problem. Also just starting to go is part of the battle. Generally speaking a car has very minimal weight in the rear so it has trouble gaining traction. An AWD has the advantage with the engine having a lot of weight up front in the engine so it has an easier time moving. Also 4 wheels spinning is better than 2 (1 if you have an open diff).

I'll give you an example from last week. My buddy has an old Subaru Outback with pretty much drag slicks, there's next to no tread on them. I'm in my big diesel pick up truck on mud and snow rated all terrain tires. We went up in the mountains and my truck did not want to move because it couldn't gain traction. The only way I made it was in 4x4 because just in RWD I was going no where even on snow rated tires (BFG KO2's). My buddy only had clearance issues a couple times.

FWD does alright, but again not as good as an AWD. It will perform much better than a RWD, however again you only have 1 or 2 tires spinning instead of 4. Also keep in mind that tire chains are about $50 so if you're in a climate like me where "winter" consists of 30* weather and maybe a week of snow, you don't really need winter tires.

My brother daily drives a '13 Mustang on all season tires and that thing is next to useless in the winter. Obviously Mustangs have issues keeping traction in general, but add snow and ice to that and forget it.

Considering a winter climate, AWD is unbeatable. After AWD, FWD and 4x4 are kinda ties in my opinion because you can't drive all the time in 4x4, you'll lock up your transfer case and blow up your trans. 4x4 really is only to get you out of somewhere you're stuck or if you're in an off road environment. FWD does really good at giving your steer wheels traction and RWD isn't good at all in the winter.
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A RWD will never do as good as a AWD in snow even if the AWD is on summer tires and the RWD is on winters. Even though summer tires don't grip as well, once you're moving the hard part is steering. A RWD car has trouble steering in snow and ice whereas an AWD will have less of a problem. Also just starting to go is part of the battle. Generally speaking a car has very minimal weight in the rear so it has trouble gaining traction. An AWD has the advantage with the engine having a lot of weight up front in the engine so it has an easier time moving. Also 4 wheels spinning is better than 2 (1 if you have an open diff).


Ermm no that's incorrect, Source:

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Winter tyres make more of a difference than AWD in the snow,

Best case = AWD & Winters. I'd rather have RWD with winters than AWD without.



Regarding Flashy because as a first driver you're more likely to make little mistakes and ruining a perfect car.
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Are you only interested in cars or do you like suv's and trucks?
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Bought an honda civic 2008 4 years ago, never had a single problem with it.Very reliable, I live in Canada never had a problem in snow either
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A Cherokee or Grand Cherokee would be great, inexpensive, and great for the snow.
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Lobbers wrote
A RWD will never do as good as a AWD in snow even if the AWD is on summer tires and the RWD is on winters. Even though summer tires don't grip as well, once you're moving the hard part is steering. A RWD car has trouble steering in snow and ice whereas an AWD will have less of a problem. Also just starting to go is part of the battle. Generally speaking a car has very minimal weight in the rear so it has trouble gaining traction. An AWD has the advantage with the engine having a lot of weight up front in the engine so it has an easier time moving. Also 4 wheels spinning is better than 2 (1 if you have an open diff).


Ermm no that's incorrect, Source:

Another Source:


Winter tyres make more of a difference than AWD in the snow,

Best case = AWD & Winters. I'd rather have RWD with winters than AWD without.



Regarding Flashy because as a first driver you're more likely to make little mistakes and ruining a perfect car.


Both those videos show dedicated snow tires which can be very spendy as you'll have to get another set of tires when the sun comes out. Not to mention that in the second video the BMW has wider tires.There are plenty of videos such as this one that show the difference of a FWD on dedicated snow tires vs a AWD vehicle not on dedicated snow tires.



Just from my experiences I would never drive a RWD car in winter. I've always been lucky and had access to a FWD, AWD, or 4x4 though so I never had to drive the RWD. A RWD vehicle is going to be very bad a cornering just like a summer or all season tire will be very bad at stopping. Here is a pretty good video showing how far a truck gets in RWD and then in 4x4.



The best option for someone looking to save some money is a FWD vehicle on all seasons which most vehicles come with now. FWD is much better in winter, not as good as AWD but AWD is more expensive to buy, maintain, and fix. If the conditions get too bad for all season tires, get a set of chains for $50 and you are now on winter tires.
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