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DeadLizard wrote Even though they've lost me on the designs of Pokmon for the new generations, obviously geared towards children and cutiesy type shit, I'm still super pumped for it due to the nostalgia I got from playing "let's go" on my switch. Haven't played Pokmon in years.

There's a broad spectrum of fans of the Pokemon series now, the games are actually extremely technical when it comes to stats and farming. I honestly recommend playing the Nintendo DS titles if you're running from nostalgia, games such as Pearl/Diamond/Platinum, Soul Silver/Heart Gold are extremely good and cover a majority of the bases of Pokemon that you will have missed.

Adding onto this really quickly unless you want to grow old waiting on certain mechanics;

If you're going to play Gen 4, jump onto Platinum and just skip Diamond and Pearl. HP bars had a set speed before they wore out, meaning if you went against a Chansey or a Blissey, a OHKO you would be sitting there for 20+ seconds for one Pokemon. Also save times are horrendous and stupid random when you get the "saving a lot of data" message. Your save could take 45 seconds, could take 3 minutes, could be longer, and guess what, you might have just walked a few steps and picked a berry but nah "you did a lot in order to have data saved." And I do mean it's random, you can legit walk a few steps and pick a berry and it'll say saving a lot of data, but you can catch 20 Pokemon, defeat a gym leader and it'll just say "saving" that takes 10 seconds.

I always thought HP bar speed is the same across all three versions, but Platinum introduced faster walking, surfing and battle animations because they were incredibly slow in D/P.

But yeah I agree go with Platinum for a more enjoyable experience.

Platinum sped up the HP bar, but not by much. You would probably shave off a few seconds, but I can't begin to tell you how much of a drag Diamond/Pearl was due to the horrendous time wasters in that game lol That's why I said just jump onto Platinum because any time saved on Gen 4 is better than getting annoyed with how much things seem like a chore due to just un-optimsed times to get things done. I don't recall if SS/HG fixed those at all for the HP bar though. I didn't spend nearly as much time on those games as I did Sinnoh. I also completely forget about the damn surf speed because holy hell that was annoying, another reason to just jump to Platinum since because I remember that making me not even want to bother surfing around for any Pokemon I may have needed, let alone shiny hunting.

i Agree Platnium was my favorite Game by far it was so Simple but good

Pokemon Soul Silver was great too. Only prob is if you wanna replay some old Pokegames your looking at paying solid 80$ for a used game. Was researching Pokemon Soul Silver last night for example 80$ just for decent used. Up to 100$ or more for brand new.

Some games just sold very well. I'm sure this one in the Pokemon franchise became a big hit and that's probably why it sell high now.

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DeadLizard wrote Even though they've lost me on the designs of Pokmon for the new generations, obviously geared towards children and cutiesy type shit, I'm still super pumped for it due to the nostalgia I got from playing "let's go" on my switch. Haven't played Pokmon in years.

There's a broad spectrum of fans of the Pokemon series now, the games are actually extremely technical when it comes to stats and farming. I honestly recommend playing the Nintendo DS titles if you're running from nostalgia, games such as Pearl/Diamond/Platinum, Soul Silver/Heart Gold are extremely good and cover a majority of the bases of Pokemon that you will have missed.

Adding onto this really quickly unless you want to grow old waiting on certain mechanics;

If you're going to play Gen 4, jump onto Platinum and just skip Diamond and Pearl. HP bars had a set speed before they wore out, meaning if you went against a Chansey or a Blissey, a OHKO you would be sitting there for 20+ seconds for one Pokemon. Also save times are horrendous and stupid random when you get the "saving a lot of data" message. Your save could take 45 seconds, could take 3 minutes, could be longer, and guess what, you might have just walked a few steps and picked a berry but nah "you did a lot in order to have data saved." And I do mean it's random, you can legit walk a few steps and pick a berry and it'll say saving a lot of data, but you can catch 20 Pokemon, defeat a gym leader and it'll just say "saving" that takes 10 seconds.

I always thought HP bar speed is the same across all three versions, but Platinum introduced faster walking, surfing and battle animations because they were incredibly slow in D/P.

But yeah I agree go with Platinum for a more enjoyable experience.

Platinum sped up the HP bar, but not by much. You would probably shave off a few seconds, but I can't begin to tell you how much of a drag Diamond/Pearl was due to the horrendous time wasters in that game lol That's why I said just jump onto Platinum because any time saved on Gen 4 is better than getting annoyed with how much things seem like a chore due to just un-optimsed times to get things done. I don't recall if SS/HG fixed those at all for the HP bar though. I didn't spend nearly as much time on those games as I did Sinnoh. I also completely forget about the damn surf speed because holy hell that was annoying, another reason to just jump to Platinum since because I remember that making me not even want to bother surfing around for any Pokemon I may have needed, let alone shiny hunting.

i Agree Platnium was my favorite Game by far it was so Simple but good

Pokemon Soul Silver was great too. Only prob is if you wanna replay some old Pokegames your looking at paying solid 80$ for a used game. Was researching Pokemon Soul Silver last night for example 80$ just for decent used. Up to 100$ or more for brand new.

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DeadLizard wrote Even though they've lost me on the designs of Pokmon for the new generations, obviously geared towards children and cutiesy type shit, I'm still super pumped for it due to the nostalgia I got from playing "let's go" on my switch. Haven't played Pokmon in years.

There's a broad spectrum of fans of the Pokemon series now, the games are actually extremely technical when it comes to stats and farming. I honestly recommend playing the Nintendo DS titles if you're running from nostalgia, games such as Pearl/Diamond/Platinum, Soul Silver/Heart Gold are extremely good and cover a majority of the bases of Pokemon that you will have missed.

Adding onto this really quickly unless you want to grow old waiting on certain mechanics;

If you're going to play Gen 4, jump onto Platinum and just skip Diamond and Pearl. HP bars had a set speed before they wore out, meaning if you went against a Chansey or a Blissey, a OHKO you would be sitting there for 20+ seconds for one Pokemon. Also save times are horrendous and stupid random when you get the "saving a lot of data" message. Your save could take 45 seconds, could take 3 minutes, could be longer, and guess what, you might have just walked a few steps and picked a berry but nah "you did a lot in order to have data saved." And I do mean it's random, you can legit walk a few steps and pick a berry and it'll say saving a lot of data, but you can catch 20 Pokemon, defeat a gym leader and it'll just say "saving" that takes 10 seconds.

I always thought HP bar speed is the same across all three versions, but Platinum introduced faster walking, surfing and battle animations because they were incredibly slow in D/P.

But yeah I agree go with Platinum for a more enjoyable experience.

Platinum sped up the HP bar, but not by much. You would probably shave off a few seconds, but I can't begin to tell you how much of a drag Diamond/Pearl was due to the horrendous time wasters in that game lol That's why I said just jump onto Platinum because any time saved on Gen 4 is better than getting annoyed with how much things seem like a chore due to just un-optimsed times to get things done. I don't recall if SS/HG fixed those at all for the HP bar though. I didn't spend nearly as much time on those games as I did Sinnoh. I also completely forget about the damn surf speed because holy hell that was annoying, another reason to just jump to Platinum since because I remember that making me not even want to bother surfing around for any Pokemon I may have needed, let alone shiny hunting.

i Agree Platnium was my favorite Game by far it was so Simple but good

Pokemon Soul Silver was great too. Only prob is if you wanna replay some old Pokegames your looking at paying solid 80$ for a used game. Was researching Pokemon Soul Silver last night for example 80$ just for decent used. Up to 100$ or more for brand new.

even diamond and pearl are expensive!

Nintendo games are usually more expensive for 2 reasons. One, Nintendo just doesn't really price match or put things on sale much. An easy example would be Skyrim. Skyrim Special Edition on Steam, Xbox and PlayStation is $39.99. But for Nintendo Skyrim (doesn't say special edition) is $59.99. 3DS games go on sale quite often, but when the 3DS was still getting games made, you would be lucky to see a sale. But their home consoles, very rarely see a sale. Smash 4 for the Wii U is STILL $59.99 when it's been out for almost 5 years and was surpassed by Smash Ultimate and Smash 4 is considered to be one of the worst Smash games by a lot of players, both casual and competitive. Right now it sits in between 4 and Brawl being seen as the worst, but still.

The second reason, is the rarity of games and their older consoles and how people sell them. Back in 2014, Paper Mario: The Thousand Year Door unopened was selling for near $400 and The Legend of Zelda Windwaker -- same condition was $400, creeping upwards to $500. Hell, even GameCube controllers from the actual GameCube era are stupid expensive, Amazon is literally selling a white GameCube controller that is from the GameCube era for $188.54. The DS Pokemon games held up their price for a long time and still maintain it because DS systems aren't made anymore, nor is the Pokemon games onto there. Plus a lot of people are starting to get into competitive Pokemon and some meta Pokemon HAVE to be transferred over from Gen 4 and 5 for certain moves that can't be obtained any legit way in recent games or they have Hidden Abilities that want to get, that again, can't be from obtained current games.

I'll end it with this screenshot. Sure, they are on sale because the seller probably wants to get rid of the stock they have amassed, but some of these games should not be this much money; there are a few reasonably priced, but only a select few. Sure they may be older games, but a lot of those games before the sale are trying to be sold at a price point that Nintendo deems for games on a 3DS -- which isn't getting anything new. If you go looking for N64, SNES, GameCube, Nintendo DS games and maybe GameBoy, you're going to be in some disbelief by what people try to sell them for at times.

https://i.imgur.com/ZTJshdL.png

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DeadLizard wrote Even though they've lost me on the designs of Pokmon for the new generations, obviously geared towards children and cutiesy type shit, I'm still super pumped for it due to the nostalgia I got from playing "let's go" on my switch. Haven't played Pokmon in years.

There's a broad spectrum of fans of the Pokemon series now, the games are actually extremely technical when it comes to stats and farming. I honestly recommend playing the Nintendo DS titles if you're running from nostalgia, games such as Pearl/Diamond/Platinum, Soul Silver/Heart Gold are extremely good and cover a majority of the bases of Pokemon that you will have missed.

Adding onto this really quickly unless you want to grow old waiting on certain mechanics;

If you're going to play Gen 4, jump onto Platinum and just skip Diamond and Pearl. HP bars had a set speed before they wore out, meaning if you went against a Chansey or a Blissey, a OHKO you would be sitting there for 20+ seconds for one Pokemon. Also save times are horrendous and stupid random when you get the "saving a lot of data" message. Your save could take 45 seconds, could take 3 minutes, could be longer, and guess what, you might have just walked a few steps and picked a berry but nah "you did a lot in order to have data saved." And I do mean it's random, you can legit walk a few steps and pick a berry and it'll say saving a lot of data, but you can catch 20 Pokemon, defeat a gym leader and it'll just say "saving" that takes 10 seconds.

I always thought HP bar speed is the same across all three versions, but Platinum introduced faster walking, surfing and battle animations because they were incredibly slow in D/P.

But yeah I agree go with Platinum for a more enjoyable experience.

Platinum sped up the HP bar, but not by much. You would probably shave off a few seconds, but I can't begin to tell you how much of a drag Diamond/Pearl was due to the horrendous time wasters in that game lol That's why I said just jump onto Platinum because any time saved on Gen 4 is better than getting annoyed with how much things seem like a chore due to just un-optimsed times to get things done. I don't recall if SS/HG fixed those at all for the HP bar though. I didn't spend nearly as much time on those games as I did Sinnoh. I also completely forget about the damn surf speed because holy hell that was annoying, another reason to just jump to Platinum since because I remember that making me not even want to bother surfing around for any Pokemon I may have needed, let alone shiny hunting.

i Agree Platnium was my favorite Game by far it was so Simple but good

Pokemon Soul Silver was great too. Only prob is if you wanna replay some old Pokegames your looking at paying solid 80$ for a used game. Was researching Pokemon Soul Silver last night for example 80$ just for decent used. Up to 100$ or more for brand new.

even diamond and pearl are expensive!

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DeadLizard wrote Even though they've lost me on the designs of Pokmon for the new generations, obviously geared towards children and cutiesy type shit, I'm still super pumped for it due to the nostalgia I got from playing "let's go" on my switch. Haven't played Pokmon in years.

There's a broad spectrum of fans of the Pokemon series now, the games are actually extremely technical when it comes to stats and farming. I honestly recommend playing the Nintendo DS titles if you're running from nostalgia, games such as Pearl/Diamond/Platinum, Soul Silver/Heart Gold are extremely good and cover a majority of the bases of Pokemon that you will have missed.

Adding onto this really quickly unless you want to grow old waiting on certain mechanics;

If you're going to play Gen 4, jump onto Platinum and just skip Diamond and Pearl. HP bars had a set speed before they wore out, meaning if you went against a Chansey or a Blissey, a OHKO you would be sitting there for 20+ seconds for one Pokemon. Also save times are horrendous and stupid random when you get the "saving a lot of data" message. Your save could take 45 seconds, could take 3 minutes, could be longer, and guess what, you might have just walked a few steps and picked a berry but nah "you did a lot in order to have data saved." And I do mean it's random, you can legit walk a few steps and pick a berry and it'll say saving a lot of data, but you can catch 20 Pokemon, defeat a gym leader and it'll just say "saving" that takes 10 seconds.

I always thought HP bar speed is the same across all three versions, but Platinum introduced faster walking, surfing and battle animations because they were incredibly slow in D/P.

But yeah I agree go with Platinum for a more enjoyable experience.

Platinum sped up the HP bar, but not by much. You would probably shave off a few seconds, but I can't begin to tell you how much of a drag Diamond/Pearl was due to the horrendous time wasters in that game lol That's why I said just jump onto Platinum because any time saved on Gen 4 is better than getting annoyed with how much things seem like a chore due to just un-optimsed times to get things done. I don't recall if SS/HG fixed those at all for the HP bar though. I didn't spend nearly as much time on those games as I did Sinnoh. I also completely forget about the damn surf speed because holy hell that was annoying, another reason to just jump to Platinum since because I remember that making me not even want to bother surfing around for any Pokemon I may have needed, let alone shiny hunting.

i Agree Platnium was my favorite Game by far it was so Simple but good

Pokemon Soul Silver was great too. Only prob is if you wanna replay some old Pokegames your looking at paying solid 80$ for a used game. Was researching Pokemon Soul Silver last night for example 80$ just for decent used. Up to 100$ or more for brand new.

even diamond and pearl are expensive!

Nintendo games are usually more expensive for 2 reasons. One, Nintendo just doesn't really price match or put things on sale much. An easy example would be Skyrim. Skyrim Special Edition on Steam, Xbox and PlayStation is $39.99. But for Nintendo Skyrim (doesn't say special edition) is $59.99. 3DS games go on sale quite often, but when the 3DS was still getting games made, you would be lucky to see a sale. But their home consoles, very rarely see a sale. Smash 4 for the Wii U is STILL $59.99 when it's been out for almost 5 years and was surpassed by Smash Ultimate and Smash 4 is considered to be one of the worst Smash games by a lot of players, both casual and competitive. Right now it sits in between 4 and Brawl being seen as the worst, but still.

The second reason, is the rarity of games and their older consoles and how people sell them. Back in 2014, Paper Mario: The Thousand Year Door unopened was selling for near $400 and The Legend of Zelda Windwaker -- same condition was $400, creeping upwards to $500. Hell, even GameCube controllers from the actual GameCube era are stupid expensive, Amazon is literally selling a white GameCube controller that is from the GameCube era for $188.54. The DS Pokemon games held up their price for a long time and still maintain it because DS systems aren't made anymore, nor is the Pokemon games onto there. Plus a lot of people are starting to get into competitive Pokemon and some meta Pokemon HAVE to be transferred over from Gen 4 and 5 for certain moves that can't be obtained any legit way in recent games or they have Hidden Abilities that want to get, that again, can't be from obtained current games.

I'll end it with this screenshot. Sure, they are on sale because the seller probably wants to get rid of the stock they have amassed, but some of these games should not be this much money; there are a few reasonably priced, but only a select few. Sure they may be older games, but a lot of those games before the sale are trying to be sold at a price point that Nintendo deems for games on a 3DS -- which isn't getting anything new. If you go looking for N64, SNES, GameCube, Nintendo DS games and maybe GameBoy, you're going to be in some disbelief by what people try to sell them for at times.

https://i.imgur.com/ZTJshdL.png

Yes Nintendo is doing very well, but they need more older classics in their genre. Adding more say star fox games, like star fox assault and star fox adventures would help a lot. Also adding super mario sunshine a timeless classic to the catalog. They need to worry about older games more than newer games, it will bring more people who played than the new generation.

I don't think Nintendo will start releasing GameCube games on the Switch - yet - but they did say during the direct when Mario Maker 2 had its release date shown, that they have a goal to release a lot more of their older games through the Nintendo Online service on the Switch like they're currently doing with the NES and SNES. I'm sure eventually we'll get to GameCube games or maybe they'll do something like Sega did in the GameCube with the Sonic Mega Collection, which released a bunch of older sonic games onto the GameCube. Nintendo could probably eventually do something like that in categories like "Nintendo all Stars" would be Mario, Zelda, Pokmon, Kirby, Star Fox (I would say Metroid but I'm pretty sure Prime Trilogy is around the corner so no point in putting that on since those are the only Metroid games on GameCube.) Then the more 'niche' games that the GameCube had, compiled into their own such as "fan favourites" or something along those lines

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I don't think Nintendo will start releasing GameCube games on the Switch - yet - but they did say during the direct when Mario Maker 2 had its release date shown, that they have a goal to release a lot more of their older games through the Nintendo Online service on the Switch like they're currently doing with the NES and SNES. I'm sure eventually we'll get to GameCube games or maybe they'll do something like Sega did in the GameCube with the Sonic Mega Collection, which released a bunch of older sonic games onto the GameCube. Nintendo could probably eventually do something like that in categories like "Nintendo all Stars" would be Mario, Zelda, Pokmon, Kirby, Star Fox (I would say Metroid but I'm pretty sure Prime Trilogy is around the corner so no point in putting that on since those are the only Metroid games on GameCube.) Then the more 'niche' games that the GameCube had, compiled into their own such as "fan favourites" or something along those lines

Yeah, I don't think we will see this for a while, but It would be awesome to play SSX Ticky on the Switch