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I am looking to have a build that comes in under $1500 that is capable of running the games Squad and Escape from Tarkov pretty smoothly. Here is my attempt at a build. Please let me know what yall think and where I could improve or what is a waste of money.

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This one should be public. Sorry about that.
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So, what exactly is the system being used for then? Just games?
Also, what monitor(s) are you using with this system? - or do you need a monitor within budget?



There are definitely already a few changes I'd make. Ditch that X470 mobo, not worth that money. If you're spending $200ish on a mobo, get the Asus X570 TUF. If you want a high end board, but don't want a chipset fan, then you will have to go X470 but in that case, you'd be better with an MSI X470 Gaming Pro Carbon. Alternatively, a nice B450 motherboard like the MSI B450 Tomahawk would be more than adequate for an 8C/16T CPU and that mobo will set you back just over $100.

That case is also not worth the money, as it is trash. If you want RGB LED's, then use LED strips or LED fans/fan frames if you want, or at least buy a good case that has some RGB LED's. In the $70ish range for cases though, I'd be looking at Cooler Master NR600, Phanteks P400(A), NZXT H500/H510, or Fractal Meshify C.

Don't pay $100 for that PSU. The TX500M is a fine PSU, but there are better fully modular units that cost less than that.
pcpartpicker.com/products/power-s...amp;page=1
I like the EVGA G2/G3 and Seasonic Focus units, but that Cooler Master MWE PSU for $75 is a great deal.

Don't pay $100 for your OS, that's just a waste of money. I'd personally change the storage set-up as well, I'd get a 2TB or 3TB HDD instead of 1TB. Also, for the SSD, the 860 EVO is great but it's just over-priced IMO. You can get a faster, NVMe SSD for less. In fact, for only $20 more you can get a faster SSD with twice the capacity;
pcpartpicker.com/product/9nhKHx/i...knw010t8x1
I have a 500GB 860 EVO in my system, but I got it when the 860 EVO was a really good deal in comparison to other SSD's. If I were buying now, hands down I'd be going with a 1TB Intel 660p.

Lastly, for the GPU, a GTX 1660Ti doesn't really belong in a build of this budget IMO. That said, it's more than adequate for 1080p60Hz so we need to know your monitor(s) before we can really recommend anything.
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Thanks for such a detailed reply.
My monitor is a Dell U2518D:

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(not exactly a gaming monitor but that is what I use it for anyway)

This computer will primarily see gaming. Roughly 90% of its time. I can go more expensive if needed. I can go up to $1500. Thanks for the feedback though.


I would also like to state I do not care for lighting in a computer. I would rather save money and not do lighting. If you think a new monitor would be worth it for the price range then let me know. I have other uses for this monitor. I am living long distances from many of my friends and the only way we connect anymore is through video games. I have come to realize my current computer can't handle modern games. Thats pretty much the main use for this computer.


edit: What are some good points to look for to tell if a case is good or not?
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Taking your advice into account Here is an updated part list:

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What graphics card would you recommend? It seems like the 1660 Ti may be overkill but it super cheap currently and seems too good of a deal to pass up. Forgive my ignorance on the matter. I am learning as I go.
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Alright, so the Meshify C is over-priced right now. Used to be able to get it for $70-80 easily, even $90 is reasonable but more than $100 is too much for it. As for determining which cases are good, you'll probably just want to look up reviews. If you know what to look for, you can tell just by looking at pictures of a case if it's not great. Also, DIYPC cases all just tend to be sub par quality anyway. If you stick with NZXT, Phanteks, or Fractal Design then you can't really go wrong most of the time. Cooler Master can be all over the place- they have some great cases and some absolute trash, Corsair is kind of the same but Corsair's cases all usually come with 'Corsair tax' and as a result are over-priced IMO.

Davijones45 wrote My monitor is a Dell U2518D

Pretty nice monitor actually. Up to you if you want to upgrade. You could get a nice 1440p144Hz monitor within budget, or maybe even a nice ultrawide monitor but if you feel like 1440p60Hz is fine, you can stick with your current monitor. If you do decide to upgrade, you could sell the Dell monitor to make some cash back as you should be able to easily get $180ish for that monitor. If you do upgrade, don't bother with 1080p144Hz- the resolution downgrade would be stupid IMO.

Davijones45 wrote What graphics card would you recommend? It seems like the 1660 Ti may be overkill

It's not overkill, it's lower end than I'd expect in a build of this budget. For 1080p60Hz, it would be perfectly adequate but not quite overkill. For 1440p though, I'd want something a little higher end.


PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 3600 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor ($197.85 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: MSI X470 GAMING PRO CARBON ATX AM4 Motherboard ($149.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: Team T-FORCE VULCAN Z 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory ($67.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Intel 660p Series 1.02 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive ($94.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda Computer 2 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($49.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: Asus GeForce RTX 2070 8 GB STRIX GAMING OC Video Card ($449.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Cooler Master MasterBox NR600 (w/o ODD) ATX Mid Tower Case ($69.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: Cooler Master MWE Gold 550 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply ($74.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $1155.78

Alternative GPU's;
MSI Gaming Z RTX 2070
Sapphire Pulse RX 5700XT
The RX 5700XT will perform a bit better than the RTX 2070 in some games, or will be at least on par with the 2070 in NVidia favoured titles. The RTX 2070 however has RTX support, so if you want the additional feature, the 2070 isn't a bad option. The 5700XT isn't in stock on Newegg right now, but I think Amazon have it in stock, otherwise Newegg should have stock soon. If you do get a 5700XT, make sure it is not a reference cooler because those are trash.
At 1440p60Hz, either the RTX 2070 or RX 5700XT will be more than adequate so you won't really notice a difference between the 2 in most games tbh. Either of these GPU's would be a nice pairing for 1440p144Hz or 3440x1440 100Hz, so if you do decide to upgrade monitor, then you're good to go.

I'd take the R5 3600 over the R7 2700 if you're only gaming, since you won't really be utilising the extra cores/threads on the R7 2700, so the 3600's 15-20% higher IPC will be more beneficial for you.

If you want an aftermarket cooler;
I like this;
Dark Rock 4
Though it is a bit pricey now tbf. You can get pretty good air coolers in the $50 range and some of those would be a great fit with an R5 3600. I wouldn't buy the Hyper 212, it's not a great cooler. In fact it won't perform significantly better than the cooler included with an R5 3600.
Here's a better priced Be Quiet! cooler;
Shadow Rock 2
Bit ugly though, especially compared to the Dark Rock 4. This is another good option in that price range, though again not as pretty as the DR4 IMO;
Scythe Mugen 5
Alternatively, you could just grab yourself a cheap 240mm AIO;
MasterLiquid Lite 240
I'd personally prefer to stick with air, since an AIO will have to be replaced eventually but if you like the look, then honestly some of the cheaper 240mm AIO's are a good shout because they'll keep an R5 3600 at great temps for at least 2/3 years.


Lastly, monitor. 1080p 144Hz just isn't an upgrade, so you're looking at $300-500 for a worthy monitor upgrade IMO. You do have a lot of good options in that price range these days though, and any of these choices will last you a long time and you'll get a lot of good use out of IMO.
So, to start, 1440p 144Hz;
Viotek GN27D
Pixio PX329
MSI Optix MAG321CQR
These are all VA panels with Freesync support. The MSI MAG321CQR is objectively better than the other two, however they are all great monitors. Up to you if you want to spend the extra $80 for the MSI one, but if it were me, I'd stick with one of the cheaper 2 or just go 3440x1440. I would probably get the Viotek one myself for 1440p144Hz, but if you'd rather a larger display or flat rather than curved, then the Pixio PX329 is great.

Or, 3440x1440 ultrawide 100Hz;
Viotek GN34CB
MSI Optix MAG341CQ
Again, the MSI monitor is objectively a better monitor, but the Viotek one is also great. It's also only $20 more than the MSI MAG321CQR from above, which is why it makes sense to stick with one of the cheaper 1440p144Hz monitors IMO, or just go 3440x1440. In this case though, I would probably say the MAG341CQ is worth the $60 increase over the Viotek GN34CB, but $400 is already a lot of money for a monitor so sticking with the GN34CB would be understandable.
Again, both of these are VA panels with Freesync support.
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