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21 wrote currys.co.uk/gbuk/computing/pc-mo...1-pdt.html
Dang, back to £300+
Lets see what happens over the new year. I constantly curse my wife for buying things JUST because they're on sale yet for some reason I feel as if I should have gotten that monitor...

I still can't find anything specific to the 1660 super, but I found info on cheaper/older cards saying that they can drive three displays. Should be ok for me I guess.
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21 wrote currys.co.uk/gbuk/computing/pc-mo...1-pdt.html
Dang, back to £300+

Yeah I think 215 was the Black Friday/Cyber Monday price. That Samsung monitor has been as low as £240 before Black Friday though, and other Samsung monitors(like the one I bought myself) regularly go on sale. Mine was around £300 but is on sale at 240/250 more often than it sits at 300 lol.
The LG for £280 is a solid option if there's nothing better value, but stuff like the Samsung and Philips monitor are gonna be popping up under £250 so just keep an eye out until you find something you like the price of enough to buy.

Harmonaz wrote Lets see what happens over the new year. I constantly curse my wife for buying things JUST because they're on sale yet for some reason I feel as if I should have gotten that monitor...

Yeah, sucks when you miss sale pricing. That's why I had to buy myself one of those 1TB Sabrent Rocket's lmfao.

Harmonaz wrote I still can't find anything specific to the 1660 super, but I found info on cheaper/older cards saying that they can drive three displays. Should be ok for me I guess.

Yeah, sorry, GTX 1660 Super will support 3 displays no problem.


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21 wrote 215 was the Black Friday/Cyber Monday price
Curry's had it at £229, but I didn't check that Samsung 10% voucher but that would bring it to £206? In any case, even at £229... I missed out, specially now that I know it could have been one of three displays

DEFINITELY going to follow that and the Philips until either I get a good price or this surplus cash I have runs out lol EDIT sorry not the philips - don't want another 27"

Regarding the TV, I've been advised to pop into a store and try sitting close to them to see just what sizes are practical and whether or not the edges of the screen appear lower quality due to the angle. Glad the guy pointed that out because now I'm wondering just how practical a 55" would have been... There were two Hisense 55" models which he generally recommends to most people and they're around £400 and £500 (can't remember what extras the 500 one had). 55" does sound very exciting though... For whatever reason, I don't want to 'upgrade' just the quality of my 42" - like the monitor, I want to increase the size too. I tend to sit relaxed about 3/4 feet away from the displays at home unlike work where they're right in my face...

Bit worried that the mobo hasn't arrived... aria cs hasn't responded yet...
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Received mobo today

Gonna start building tomorrow. If I start tonight, there's no way I'll be of any use at work tomorrow

Aria pc.... Not that I plan on doing any hardware shopping in the near future but still... not worth saving a couple of quid when you know that the retailer doesn't respond to emails or phone Just a warning to anyone trying to get the very lowest prices.
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Tried copying a directory, about 20GB, from the Sabrent to the 660p. The copy started at around 1GB/s, but within a few seconds came down to just over 100MB/s. Thats the speed I was copying files over from the external HDD

Task manager showed the Sabrent at ~5% and the 660p at 100%.

I was expecting around 3GB/s the whole way through the copy... is there something wrong here?
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You aren't guaranteed a certain rate the entire time (especially in multi-file transfers). the transfer can and will throttle on certain blocks and different files. (in your case copying a directory is depending on the area upwards of 2000+ files so it will boggle here and there and pick back up.)
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Fair enough, but to slow down to 100MB/s and stay at that rate for the entire remainder of the transfer? Its an nvme to nvme transfer and should be a lot quicker than when copying from an external HDD.

If thats normal behaviour, then... its crap lol. Whats the point of such a fast drive if my IDE HDD gives me the same performance?

So I just tried the same copy from the 660p to the Sabrent and that went at 1.2GB/s the whole way. Vice versa, and again, after a few seconds the graph showing copy speed just went all the way down from 1.2GB/s to 100MB/s.
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Harmonaz wrote Fair enough, but to slow down to 100MB/s and stay at that rate for the entire remainder of the transfer? Its an nvme to nvme transfer and should be a lot quicker than when copying from an external HDD.

If thats normal behaviour, then... its crap lol. Whats the point of such a fast drive if my IDE HDD gives me the same performance?

So I just tried the same copy from the 660p to the Sabrent and that went at 1.2GB/s the whole way. Vice versa, and again, after a few seconds the graph showing copy speed just went all the way down from 1.2GB/s to 100MB/s.


The thing is you aren't going to get the true performance of these drives with regular copies. You have disc tools you can use CDM is a good one to test the relative rates. You're transferring (multiple) files it will boggle if some of the files are smaller. If you were to compress and copy that, the transfer would be steady.

If thats normal behaviour, then... its crap lol. Whats the point of such a fast drive if my IDE HDD gives me the same performance?


You aren't using the drive as they were really intended; most editing, gaming, or normal use case systems will not get the full extent of these drives. Yes they are fast when needed. (using an editor and swapping/loading in new footage would tax the drive pretty heavily)

Now if it is a solid file size the entire way and it throttles there are a few reasons that could in play;
  • heat
  • running at m.2 speeds (this depends on the board, i haven't fully looked through this thread yet)
  • as stated before 3.5gb/s is the max rate of a nvme transfer rate. You will simply not get this all the time. The rates you're getting are relatively reasonable;
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The reason the transfer slowed down to 100MB/s is because when transferring to the 660p, you are limited to it's maximum speeds anyway(not the Sabrent Rocket's speeds), you are always limited to the speed of the slowest drive. Also, I imagine it was a pretty large transfer you were doing? For larger drive to drive transfers, the 660p can slow down pretty significantly. Especially if you're transferring a lot of smaller files, that really hurts the performance. Keep in mind transferring a bunch of random small files on HDD will also tank read/write speeds on the HDD- it's just how storage devices work.

So yeah, your performance is going to vary depending on what exactly you're doing, unfortunately quite drastically in some cases. However, the 660p should, for the most part, be performing better than a normal SATA SSD would perform.
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I was just a bit shocked at how it was fine for 660 > sabrent but not the other way. Anyway, its not the kind of operation that I plan to do often so no biggie.

21 - did you get my pm? I can't really tell as I have that message in my Outbox and I can't tell the difference between that and my Sentbox!

First go at editing - used DaVinci (free). Bit of trimming on a 1080 30 fps video, then exported. 5 min video took about a minute to render. Editing was a lot faster and much more productive than I originally expected. Very happy so far. Going to try other editors when I get the time to see which renders my projects fastest.
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