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rzoppa wrote
21 wrote Luckily, that motherboard isn't some weird proprietary form factor like Dell sometimes use(BTX or whatever).

With the amount of headache you'll have in an old office PC case, I'd just invest in a decent new case to be honest. That said, you might be able to make your current case work, but it might only work with low profile cards. You could cut it up to make more space for a larger GPU potentially, but honestly, new case is just going to save so much hassle IMO.
I've been there before though, I remember having to butcher the inside of an old case to fit an HD7850 inside it lol, and it wasn't even that big of a GPU IIRC.

PSU definitely needs an upgrade. Without a doubt. Technically, you could use your current PSU with the likes of a GTX 1650, but the system is at least 7 years old, and the PSU is absolutely low-end, so I'd feel scared to turn the thing on at this point. Also, vanilla GTX 1650 is a pretty terrible GPU. It costs the same as a GTX 1650 Super, which is a far superior GPU.

Regardless, definitely do not buy a GTX 460. Just forget about that entirely.


So, this is the cheapest half-decent quality PSU that I can find in stock;
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You should usually be able to find the likes of the Corsair CX550M for $50ish, which would be a good shout, but stock seems non-existant currently.
Honestly, if it were me and I were buying a new PSU anyway, I'd probably just spend the extra for this;
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Good quality, gold rated, fully modular PSU that will easily last you several years/upgrades.


Then, GPU, GTX 1650 Super would be my starting point;
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This one's even a "mini" variant, so should fit in your current case if you want to keep it.
Or a bigger GTX 1650 Super if you're upgrading case anyway;
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This one's a little nicer looking and will offer better cooling.

If you want a higher end GPU, then a GTX 1660 Super is your next logical step up, you can find 1660 Super's for $230-250 easily. Just get whichever you like the look of best, and is priced appropriately.

You could step up from the 1660 Super to an RTX 2060, which you should be able to find for around $300. So, an RTX 2060 will still be easily manageable with your $600 budget, even with a new case+PSU as well. I most likely wouldn't go much higher end than an RTX 2060 though, in this situation anyway. The RTX 2060 will let you experience RTX + DLSS, if you play any games that support those features- and if you even care about those features.


Lastly, case, this is what I'd start with;
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Great little budget case, really can't go wrong with this IMO.
You could spend a little extra for a P400A, which is just pretty much a slightly larger version of the same case. The P400A also comes in an RGB variant, but that's a $100 case at that point.
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If you buy the P300A, you should add a case fan or 2. If you buy the P400A, it'll be fine as it comes.


rzoppa wrote I see that the GPU supports up to 8K but would that be overkill if im going to be sitting 3 feet from the monitor?

8K would be overkill because the GTX 1650 is an entry level GPU. Also because 8K monitors/TV's barely exist, and those that do, are very expensive.

GTX 1650/1650 Super are 1080p 60/75Hz GPU's. GTX 1660 Super is decent for 1080144Hz or 1440p60Hz. RTX 2060 I'd probably also stick to 1080p144Hz or 1440p60Hz, but you get better performance and some extra features over a 1660 Super.

rzoppa wrote In your opinion what would be a good resolution for a desktop setup?...im thinking that refresh rate might be important too so that the picture quality is nice and smooth.

Depends entirely on what you're using the system for exactly. Also depends on your budget. Is the $600 overall budget including a new monitor?


Im mostly interested in great visuals. Ideally i'd like to run my games on their highest visual settings. I play Starcraft II and Final Fantasy XIV (recently) and a number of older games. The secondary purpose is a backup work computer to run AutoCAD/Revit programs. The rest of the time its browsing the internet and watching YouTube videos.

It would be nice to have a new case just so I don't have to look at my current setup and think "that was an old work computer" but I would probably stick with $600 for my budget. If the remaining balance after the PSU and case limits my selection on the GPU then I may consider adjusting it.

Come to think of it I need to incorporate a monitor upgrade as well so i'll have to look into that and see what would go well with the GPU.


On a side note, I was looking over the PSU and was trying to determine how I would hook up my 4 pin (2x2) CPU power header. I was looking over most of the PSU's within the class of PSU you suggested but all im seeing is 8 pin (2x4).
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rzoppa wrote I did some research and found out that I can get cables that can allow me to hook the fans into a 4 pin slot on the PSU.

newegg.com/p/1W7-007D-00027?Descr...-_-Product

Would you recommend I use this product? It seems sensible to connect it to the Pump fan connector since it is a 4 pin, but i'd run it through the Pump connector?

No. Don't buy anything with Molex in 2020 pls. Also no, you would not connect that to the pump header anyway.
newegg.com/phanteks-ph-pwhub-02-b...klink=true
SATA fan hub, connect your one fan header(and SATA power) to this, and now you have plenty of connections for fans.

rzoppa wrote On a side note, I was looking over the PSU and was trying to determine how I would hook up my 4 pin (2x2) CPU power header. I was looking over most of the PSU's within the class of PSU you suggested but all im seeing is 8 pin (2x4).

Just plug in a single 4-pin, and leave the additional 4-pin hanging loose.



PCPartPicker Part List

Video Card: Asus GeForce GTX 1660 SUPER 6 GB TUF GAMING OC Video Card ($229.99 @ B&H)
Case: Phanteks Eclipse P400A ATX Mid Tower Case ($79.98 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: be quiet! Pure Power 11 500 W 80+ Gold Certified ATX Power Supply ($69.90 @ B&H)
Monitor: Pixio PX247 23.8" 1920x1080 144 Hz Monitor ($169.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $549.86

+$20 for your fan hub.
+$15 if you want the RGB variant of the Phanteks P400A.
+$30 if you want a modular PSU.
+$50-75 if you want to up the GTX 1660 Super to an RTX 2060.
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So I picked up the Phanteks P400A case and hooked everything up. The problem I am having right now is that the 3.0 USB ports on the front of the case are not working. I did some research and believe I found the problem. Apparently my HP motherboard is proprietary in regards to the 3.0 USB header and it will not work with the connector provided in my P400A case. Its deceiving because the connectors are the exact same shape and color (male and female)

The question is if there is an adapter that I can purchase to plug into the 3.0 USB header on my motherboard so that I can connect the front 3.0 USB ports. I have heard people just buy an expansion slot for a couple more ports on the back of the computer but I would really like to use the ports on the front.

Any thoughts or ideas?
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I think I found my solution and it involve purchasing a PCIe expansion card with an internal USB 3.0 20-pin connector that will work with the cables for the USB ports on the front of my case.

If anyone thinks differently please let me know and if anyone can recommend a PCIe card with a USB 3.0 20-pin internal connector I would really appreciate it.
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