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HTAFC wrote I can't see Liverpool coming 4th at all tbh, their whole team is a shambles and whoever makes the signings at the club needs sacking because they are clueless (It's not just the managers, at a lot of clubs transfer business is 50/50 between manager and someone else)


Hold on a minute, we have lost 1 game in 13 matches? How is our whole team a shambles, I can agree at the start of the season our team was out of all sorts, Brendan would not stop changing the bloody team especially with the signing of balo, He had to give him some sort of chance which ruined our whole team chemistry...But since balo has been left out we have come together as a team and have played much better

Ian Ayre makes the signing's at the club and hasn't done too bad

Lets Anaylse this in full shall we.

Alberto Moreno - Been quite good
Emre Can - Been coming into the team more frequently and has performed well
Manquillo - Good strong right back, Is young and will learn
Lallana - If anyone has seen him perform before his injury, the guy has improved massivily and has started to link with sterling/coutinho alot more, also dominated in the swansea game
Markovic - Outstanding performance at sunderland last week and almost scored a wonder strike, success at benefica, Young performer and again will improve

Also previous signings such as - sturridge (Got on the cheap)
Henderson, Suarez,Countinho.

Cons -

Balotelli - Rubbish piece of business, waste of money, get rid
Lovren - Hasn't performed to his upmost potential at the moment, really poor and lacked leadership

Ian Ayre has made some poor signings but you can't say EVERY signing has been rubbish, 1 loss in 13 games doesn't sound like a bad record to me and 5 points off united in the top 4 isn't the biggest point lead for the race for 4th

We might not finish 4th but are team is certainly not a shamble's.

Current run of our form guide - premierleague.com/en-gb/matchday/...guide.html

2nd, Yes we haven't played big teams yet and tonight I feel chelsea will be a struggle but we are starting to come together.


I know this isn't an argument against my point as you've said yourself you doubt you'll get fourth, but just wanted to weigh in slightly when it comes to your signings.

I think you are right that it is unfair for people to claim that your signings have been disastrous but I don't think I could personally argue that Ian Ayre has done a "good" job. With the players you have brought in, given that none of them (bar Rickie Lambert) are old, I agree that there is potential there, but anyone can make a case for the whole room for improvement thing, but I think you have to take into account that the odd decent performance from players like Lazar Markovic and Emre Can (who, in my view, have performed badly/averagely far more times than good), and you also have to take into account the money that has been spent on some of these players - 117 Million spent just in this window.. So yeah, you have some solid players, and some potential, but with that kinda money you should really have well-established, world class talents rather than these guys
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-Fletcher wrote
iBaby wrote
HTAFC wrote I can't see Liverpool coming 4th at all tbh, their whole team is a shambles and whoever makes the signings at the club needs sacking because they are clueless (It's not just the managers, at a lot of clubs transfer business is 50/50 between manager and someone else)


Hold on a minute, we have lost 1 game in 13 matches? How is our whole team a shambles, I can agree at the start of the season our team was out of all sorts, Brendan would not stop changing the bloody team especially with the signing of balo, He had to give him some sort of chance which ruined our whole team chemistry...But since balo has been left out we have come together as a team and have played much better

Ian Ayre makes the signing's at the club and hasn't done too bad

Lets Anaylse this in full shall we.

Alberto Moreno - Been quite good
Emre Can - Been coming into the team more frequently and has performed well
Manquillo - Good strong right back, Is young and will learn
Lallana - If anyone has seen him perform before his injury, the guy has improved massivily and has started to link with sterling/coutinho alot more, also dominated in the swansea game
Markovic - Outstanding performance at sunderland last week and almost scored a wonder strike, success at benefica, Young performer and again will improve

Also previous signings such as - sturridge (Got on the cheap)
Henderson, Suarez,Countinho.

Cons -

Balotelli - Rubbish piece of business, waste of money, get rid
Lovren - Hasn't performed to his upmost potential at the moment, really poor and lacked leadership

Ian Ayre has made some poor signings but you can't say EVERY signing has been rubbish, 1 loss in 13 games doesn't sound like a bad record to me and 5 points off united in the top 4 isn't the biggest point lead for the race for 4th

We might not finish 4th but are team is certainly not a shamble's.

Current run of our form guide - premierleague.com/en-gb/matchday/...guide.html

2nd, Yes we haven't played big teams yet and tonight I feel chelsea will be a struggle but we are starting to come together.


I know this isn't an argument against my point as you've said yourself you doubt you'll get fourth, but just wanted to weigh in slightly when it comes to your signings.

I think you are right that it is unfair for people to claim that your signings have been disastrous but I don't think I could personally argue that Ian Ayre has done a "good" job. With the players you have brought in, given that none of them (bar Rickie Lambert) are old, I agree that there is potential there, but anyone can make a case for the whole room for improvement thing, but I think you have to take into account that the odd decent performance from players like Lazar Markovic and Emre Can (who, in my view, have performed badly/averagely far more times than good), and you also have to take into account the money that has been spent on some of these players - 117 Million spent just in this window.. So yeah, you have some solid players, and some potential, but with that kinda money you should really have well-established, world class talents rather than these guys


I am not in no way,shape or form think Ian Ayre has done a good job, I think really we should get him out and get someone in

But I do think the signing's we have made plus our squad should be brandad as a 'shambles' , as you can maybe of guessed by now I am a liverpool fan through and through, I go most the games to watch my team and have supported liverpool for 20 years.

The majority of the signing's we signed have been included in the last 13 games, 1 loss in that can't be bad surely, yes the opponents aren't exactly that good, I can also agree the 117 million we spent could have been spent more wisely if we had attracted big players and splashed out on 3-4 instead of 7-8 players

I'd say Can & Markovic are finding there games too. (Average/Bad) for some games but I feel there improving every game.
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iBaby wrote
HTAFC wrote I can't see Liverpool coming 4th at all tbh, their whole team is a shambles and whoever makes the signings at the club needs sacking because they are clueless (It's not just the managers, at a lot of clubs transfer business is 50/50 between manager and someone else)


Hold on a minute, we have lost 1 game in 13 matches? How is our whole team a shambles, I can agree at the start of the season our team was out of all sorts, Brendan would not stop changing the bloody team especially with the signing of balo, He had to give him some sort of chance which ruined our whole team chemistry...But since balo has been left out we have come together as a team and have played much better

Ian Ayre makes the signing's at the club and hasn't done too bad

Lets Anaylse this in full shall we.

Alberto Moreno - Been quite good
Emre Can - Been coming into the team more frequently and has performed well
Manquillo - Good strong right back, Is young and will learn
Lallana - If anyone has seen him perform before his injury, the guy has improved massivily and has started to link with sterling/coutinho alot more, also dominated in the swansea game
Markovic - Outstanding performance at sunderland last week and almost scored a wonder strike, success at benefica, Young performer and again will improve

Also previous signings such as - sturridge (Got on the cheap)
Henderson, Suarez,Countinho.

Cons -

Balotelli - Rubbish piece of business, waste of money, get rid
Lovren - Hasn't performed to his upmost potential at the moment, really poor and lacked leadership

Ian Ayre has made some poor signings but you can't say EVERY signing has been rubbish, 1 loss in 13 games doesn't sound like a bad record to me and 5 points off united in the top 4 isn't the biggest point lead for the race for 4th

We might not finish 4th but are team is certainly not a shamble's.

Current run of our form guide - premierleague.com/en-gb/matchday/...guide.html

2nd, Yes we haven't played big teams yet and tonight I feel chelsea will be a struggle but we are starting to come together.


I know this isn't an argument against my point as you've said yourself you doubt you'll get fourth, but just wanted to weigh in slightly when it comes to your signings.

I think you are right that it is unfair for people to claim that your signings have been disastrous but I don't think I could personally argue that Ian Ayre has done a "good" job. With the players you have brought in, given that none of them (bar Rickie Lambert) are old, I agree that there is potential there, but anyone can make a case for the whole room for improvement thing, but I think you have to take into account that the odd decent performance from players like Lazar Markovic and Emre Can (who, in my view, have performed badly/averagely far more times than good), and you also have to take into account the money that has been spent on some of these players - 117 Million spent just in this window.. So yeah, you have some solid players, and some potential, but with that kinda money you should really have well-established, world class talents rather than these guys


I am not in no way,shape or form think Ian Ayre has done a good job, I think really we should get him out and get someone in

But I do think the signing's we have made plus our squad should be brandad as a 'shambles' , as you can maybe of guessed by now I am a liverpool fan through and through, I go most the games to watch my team and have supported liverpool for 20 years.

The majority of the signing's we signed have been included in the last 13 games, 1 loss in that can't be bad surely, yes the opponents aren't exactly that good, I can also agree the 117 million we spent could have been spent more wisely if we had attracted big players and splashed out on 3-4 instead of 7-8 players

I'd say Can & Markovic are finding there games too. (Average/Bad) for some games but I feel there improving every game.


Yeah mate i'd say that is a fair summary, just a shame Damian Comolli had to go, had some great ideas, was pushed to buy English players in the end by the board, and then when they failed miserably (Carroll/Downing) he was blamed.
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Glad that Fletcher is leaving, loyal servant going getting more gamete elsewhere. Good on him.
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Our set up is shite, signings should be down to the manager, not a 'transfer committee'.

We have improved recently but there are still major issues which have to be addressed by everyone at Liverpool.
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Didact wrote Our set up is shite, signings should be down to the manager, not a 'transfer committee'.

We have improved recently but there are still major issues which have to be addressed by everyone at Liverpool.


I agree and disagree with this - I personally think its good that transfer directors (or whatever their official job title is) are employed, this takes some of the payload off of the managers having to deal with contracts/wages/formations/training regimes etc.. So my disagreement comes with you saying you think it should be solely down to your manager

I agree, however, that your set up needs tweaking, there is obviously some sort of influence in Liverpool where the aim is to make what almost seems like desperation signings and use however much of the budget it takes to bring these players in.

Obviously also the manager needs to play a significant part in the transfer arrangements, i.e needs to be able to scout these players beforehand and work out how he can set them up in the team and whether they are adaptable to certain team ethics, but I think this is probably where brendan is slightly at fault, because he must be doing some couting, I just think he's made some errors in judgement with a few signings is all. Either this or he may be in a situation where he pressured into just making them fit rather than declining the opportunity to sign them, who knows.. but to summarise - yes, Liverpool need to do something about this
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Fielding wrote Glad that Fletcher is leaving, loyal servant going getting more gamete elsewhere. Good on him.


What you on about, I'm not going anywhere.. aha

but on a serious note I agree, I think he's been an example to follow at Utd, may not be the most talented player i've seen in my life, but he was passionate, dedicated and loved his club. It is a shame he has no role in the team under LVG, but with the quality of players LVG wants to bring in, combined with Darren's age, this was inevitable - good choice to leave now
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Peterborough.

We're doing worse than expected, our chairman is a ******, we're not buying players, just sold our best player (Assombalonga).

Bad time to be a Posh fan.
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Peterborough.

We're doing worse than expected, our chairman is a ******, we're not buying players, just sold our best player (Assombalonga).

Bad time to be a Posh fan.


Ooo btw, do you know if any disciplinary action outside the club (i'd imagine by FIFA) was taken on the chairman?
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Peterborough.

We're doing worse than expected, our chairman is a ******, we're not buying players, just sold our best player (Assombalonga).

Bad time to be a Posh fan.


Ooo btw, do you know if any disciplinary action outside the club (i'd imagine by FIFA) was taken on the chairman?


Not too sure, I'm guessing he'd claim that it's in the remit of freedom of speech so I doubt FA will charge him
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