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TTG wrote I would take the safe bet job, the benefits they have are exactly like mine (aside the phantom stock, we have ESOP which is company owners only.) But you can always get experience from this job and use it, and save money and start your own company without a investor. I know it's a hard choice to make, either way will be a little rough. Just do what you think is right.


That's the thing, I want to go with the safe bet but I know I'd really regret not going after this company with my friends. It's a company that I started and basically lucked into finding an investor. So while I would like to be able to start my own company somewhere down the line, being able to say I started one now is also something that would look phenomenal on a resume.
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BornToBeWild wrote If I was in your situation I would take the job that offers you all the benefits you are looking for.. but at the same time you need to do something career wise that you will be happy with.

Just think about the pros and cons about both offers and than make a decision.


I've tried this as well. The thing is, I'm not really looking for any sort of benefits or anything in particular. All I really wanted was to work in the video game industry, making video games. Either job will allow me to do that. The difference is that having my own game studio, gives me more creative freedom to create what I want to create and not what someone else wants me to create. But even with both of those under consideration, I love what I do and I know I'd be happy either way.
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tcody92 wrote Don't do retail it sucks that is all I am going to tell you lol


Fun fact, I worked at a pizza hut from 2016-2020, and I worked at Bestbuy from November 7th until this Saturday (which is my last day). So I've done both kinds of retail and honestly, they aren't that bad in my experience.
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Chosen wrote I would say go with the investor if you truly believe in yourself and your team. You guys could be worth a lot more than 65k a year


That's my concern though. Like what if it does work out and we make the next big hit game or whatever, but what if I choose the other job and they do that? Or what if I go with it and we fail miserably and now none of us have jobs? It took about 7 months to even get a job offer, so my concern is how much harder it would be going forward.
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Cool-Kid-Mcgee wrote
Chosen wrote I would say go with the investor if you truly believe in yourself and your team. You guys could be worth a lot more than 65k a year


That's my concern though. Like what if it does work out and we make the next big hit game or whatever, but what if I choose the other job and they do that? Or what if I go with it and we fail miserably and now none of us have jobs? It took about 7 months to even get a job offer, so my concern is how much harder it would be going forward.


There's been a lot of solid suggestions and you have a legitimate angle against all of them as a counterweight.

So, I'm not sure any amount of advice will bring you a new perspective or a defining clarity. You're going to have to take a leap of faith and go with your gut.

In my opinion, the secured foundation of a job is the better idea, because technically even if it takes you 6 times as long, you can do the other on the side with or without investment. The investor could also pull out and decide to have nothing to do with you at any point, so, if things aren't going how he'd like them to you could see the floor fall out from beneath you.

In my opinion and from my experience being homeless for an extended run, security and solidity is better and easier to live with than potentials or unknowns. Less money, more money, whatever the differences may be.. if you secure the ground under your feet then anything else you do would typically only benefit you, not being able to cause a life ruining loss since you're already safe.

Most indie game developers, musicians and entertainers worked regular jobs along side trying to develop their true passion or calling, because that's the most realistic way to go about it in a world and economy that would watch you starve if you had an empty wallet.

You'll be fine either way if you stick to your guns and are willing to fight. But in my honest opinion I'd definitely take the security rather than the freedom. Freedom can be achieved once you're financially independent, but for as long as you are financially dependent on anything or anyone else, you can't be certain of the outcome.
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I'd take a few things into account before making a decision. My first thing is cost of living. 65k / year is more than enough where I live. $500 a week covers my expenses. Anything over I can bank or spend. However, my cost of living area is really low. Somewhere like Nevada or New York, and that'd be poverty. Next thing, that's for the year. You're only getting 2-3 months. Not a full year. HOWEVER, you're getting equity. Doesn't matter if you get hired back for another 2-3 months or not. You will forever get paid based on equity. Unless you sell or whatever. If I was in your shoes, I'd take the 2-3 months, get my equity, then follow back up with the company with the that offered me the job. But it seems like a team decision, so I'd run it by them first.
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Cool-Kid-Mcgee wrote
Chosen wrote I would say go with the investor if you truly believe in yourself and your team. You guys could be worth a lot more than 65k a year


That's my concern though. Like what if it does work out and we make the next big hit game or whatever, but what if I choose the other job and they do that? Or what if I go with it and we fail miserably and now none of us have jobs? It took about 7 months to even get a job offer, so my concern is how much harder it would be going forward.
plenty of what ifs. I'm not doubting you or your team. But what are the odds that a fresh team with little to no experience pop off on their first project? Not very likely. Let's say the person you work for ends up doing just that, popping off on their project you assisted with. Your name will be associated with it. Having that on your background will help more than you know. Yeah, it wasn't YOUR game. But you'll still get good credit from it. As opposed you and your team go rogue and do it yourself then crash and burn. YOU will always be the hardest critic when it comes to things you do. The way I see it, I'd hire someone who has worked for multiple people that all produced games that are well known or established than someone who has one banger. It's really all prospective and much easier for us to blatantly say "do this" or "do that" because it's not our lives which is affected. Regardless of your decision, use it as a learning lesson or stepping stone. That away it's a win. Goodluck
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