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Hi all, I am a software engineer who has moved from a speciality in front end development to full stack and desktop applications. Over the last few months I have been diving into the data science world and working with incredibly large sets of financial data in massive portfolios. My old PC build has been slow for a bit, but now it is really frustrating trying to work on these large data sets. I am leaning towards a new build, but will post my old build as well. My friend originally built me my current build and I was on a cheaper budget at the time and just needed something entry level. I do all of my design work on my macbook so I won't be running any real intensive graphical applications like Photoshop on the PC. I also do not game beyond Minecraft on my PC and do not plan to. I was debating sinking the money into a new graphics card or rolling with my current one if possible (Gigabyte GeForce GTX 1050), but the more I look into machine learning it is calling for at least a GeForce RTX 2060.

Sorry for the random pieced together thoughts, but hopefully that is a decent introduction.

What is your budget and currency? USD, trying to stay around $1,000-$1,500
What will you use the PC for? Everything listed above, data science, machine learning, software development
Do you need a monitor? If not, what monitor(s) will you be using? Nope, I have two ASUS - 27" IPS LCD FHD FreeSync Gaming Monitors
Do you need a keyboard, mouse, or other peripherals? Nope.
Do you need an operating system? Could use some advice on this, heard there are cheaper options/workarounds? If not, then yes, probably run both Windows and Linux, not stressing this part.
Will you overclock? Didn't plan on it, but could use some advice on this
Anything else we should know? I think that is all, here is my current build for reference, I am hearing AMD is better bang for your buck in this field as well so I am cool with making the switch.

Old Build / Current Build

Thank you for any advice or points in the right direction.

EDIT:

Thanks to MichaelBay, it only took about 8 hours from initial post until I placed the order. Here is full list minus my old Gigabyte GeForce GTX 1050 2 GB OC Video Card and my two ASUS - 27" IPS LCD FHD FreeSync Gaming Monitors.

New Build: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/bCb7W4

Total Shipped: $1,585.96

Total Including GPU (2017 pricing) and Monitors: $2,130.94


EDIT Part 2:


Finished the build today, still some cleaning up to do, but thought I'd post to show how under a week I went from request to fully built PC. Thank you MichaelBay once again.


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I'm not privy to exactly what resources your software or development tools really require. Logically I assumed you'll need fast cores, and as many as your budget will allow. I put together an Intel based list. While I've heard plenty about AMD being better value for some budgets, Intel's Alder-Lake chips are the top dogs for now. If you have the extra cheddar, step up to the i9-12900k (can use same motherboard). With either, you'd have an unstoppable rig, and the cooler I selected will adequately cool your CPU. I have personal experience using Arctic's AIOs on notoriously hot chips - it works perfectly fine if you use the radiator fans as INTAKE in the front or top of the case I selected.

Assumptions about your use-case:
- re use your current graphics card, as your software does not seem to need a beefy GPU
- standard fare 32gb DDR4 4000 RAM will do and DDR5 is too expensive anyhow
- you don't need a metric ton of RGB components

Anyways here's the specs:
Intel Core i7 12700k
ARCTIC Liquid Freezer II 240mm AIO
Thermal Grizzly Kryonaut Extreme Thermal Paste
Gigabyte Z690 Gaming X
GSkill DDR4 32gb 4000MHz CL18
Samsung 980 1TB m.2 NVME SSD
SeaSonic FOCUS GX 850w PSU
Fractal Design Meshify ATX Case
pcpartpicker.com/list/tmp7W4

Leaves you some room to purchase a Win10 key, more storage, and case fans if you like.
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MichaelBay wrote I'm not privy to exactly what resources your software or development tools really require. Logically I assumed you'll need fast cores, and as many as your budget will allow. I put together an Intel based list. While I've heard plenty about AMD being better value for some budgets, Intel's Alder-Lake chips are the top dogs for now. If you have the extra cheddar, step up to the i9-12900k (can use same motherboard). With either, you'd have an unstoppable rig, and the cooler I selected will adequately cool your CPU. I have personal experience using Arctic's AIOs on notoriously hot chips - it works perfectly fine if you use the radiator fans as INTAKE in the front or top of the case I selected.

Assumptions about your use-case:
- re use your current graphics card, as your software does not seem to need a beefy GPU
- standard fare 32gb DDR4 4000 RAM will do and DDR5 is too expensive anyhow
- you don't need a metric ton of RGB components

Anyways here's the specs:
Intel Core i7 12700k
ARCTIC Liquid Freezer II 240mm AIO
Thermal Grizzly Kryonaut Extreme Thermal Paste
Gigabyte Z690 Gaming X
GSkill DDR4 32gb 4000MHz CL18
Samsung 980 1TB m.2 NVME SSD
SeaSonic FOCUS GX 850w PSU
Fractal Design Meshify ATX Case
pcpartpicker.com/list/tmp7W4

Leaves you some room to purchase a Win10 key, more storage, and case fans if you like.


Appreciate you.

When you said "you can use the same motherboard". I assume you mean't the one you picked and not my current right? I'm thinking I'll grab the i9-12900k. Is the CPU cooler difficult to install?

Is there anything else I need? or does this new list with the i9-12900k look good to go? Maybe add in a large HDD? Do you think more fans are necessary or will the case fans do?

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/s2JJ8r

Thanks again.
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Boolean wrote When you said "you can use the same motherboard". I assume you mean't the one you picked and not my current right? I'm thinking I'll grab the i9-12900k.

Correct. And good choice!
Boolean wrote Is the CPU cooler difficult to install?

Arctic makes it as easy as it gets for an all in one liquid cooler. Their instructions are actually usable and pretty easy to follow.

Boolean wrote Is there anything else I need? or does this new list with the i9-12900k look good to go? Maybe add in a large HDD? Do you think more fans are necessary or will the case fans do?

The PC case I chose for you does support a 360mm radiator mounted in the front of the case, and I recommend upping to the Arctic 360mm AIO cooler with the 12900k. This WILL fit in the case I chose for you. Check out this video from Paul's Hardware, timestamp 6:30 he explains how to get a 360mm radiator to fit. I recommend watching the whole video prior to building, to familiarize yourself with it. If you need further help when your parts arrive, DM me and I can assist via Discord.
EDIT: If you need more storage, add more storage. You know better than I what you need! As is, you have enough to get started.
Creating a bootable windows 10 usb (see video) would be your next step, and purchasing a key for it elsewhere, unless you have a Win10 install disk lying around.
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MichaelBay wrote
Boolean wrote When you said "you can use the same motherboard". I assume you mean't the one you picked and not my current right? I'm thinking I'll grab the i9-12900k.

Correct. And good choice!
Boolean wrote Is the CPU cooler difficult to install?

Arctic makes it as easy as it gets for an all in one liquid cooler. Their instructions are actually usable and pretty easy to follow.

Boolean wrote Is there anything else I need? or does this new list with the i9-12900k look good to go? Maybe add in a large HDD? Do you think more fans are necessary or will the case fans do?

The PC case I chose for you does support a 360mm radiator mounted in the front of the case, and I recommend upping to the Arctic 360mm AIO cooler with the 12900k. This WILL fit in the case I chose for you. Check out this video from Paul's Hardware, timestamp 6:30 he explains how to get a 360mm radiator to fit. I recommend watching the whole video prior to building, to familiarize yourself with it. If you need further help when your parts arrive, DM me and I can assist via Discord.
EDIT: If you need more storage, add more storage. You know better than I what you need! As is, you have enough to get started.
Creating a bootable windows 10 usb (see video) would be your next step, and purchasing a key for it elsewhere, unless you have a Win10 install disk lying around.


Awesome! So made the updates, how are we looking? https://pcpartpicker.com/list/bCb7W4

and now I am a prime member, how should I approach ordering? Just play the lower price game between newegg and Amazon? or should I stick to ordering from one place?

and just to verify, my old graphics card will be fine with this? I can upgrade later on.

Am I missing anything?
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Boolean wrote Awesome! So made the updates, how are we looking? https://pcpartpicker.com/list/bCb7W4

and now I am a prime member, how should I approach ordering? Just play the lower price game between newegg and Amazon? or should I stick to ordering from one place?

and just to verify, my old graphics card will be fine with this? I can upgrade later on.

Am I missing anything?

That list is correct. I would order everything on Amazon as their return system is practically abusable - its so easy and great for the customer.

And your old graphics card will plug and play. All youll need is a bootable windows 10 usb stick and os license.
If you need any further assistance building, DM me here I am happy to help.
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MichaelBay wrote
Boolean wrote Awesome! So made the updates, how are we looking? https://pcpartpicker.com/list/bCb7W4

and now I am a prime member, how should I approach ordering? Just play the lower price game between newegg and Amazon? or should I stick to ordering from one place?

and just to verify, my old graphics card will be fine with this? I can upgrade later on.

Am I missing anything?

That list is correct. I would order everything on Amazon as their return system is practically abusable - its so easy and great for the customer.

And your old graphics card will plug and play. All youll need is a bootable windows 10 usb stick and os license.
If you need any further assistance building, DM me here I am happy to help.


Ordered , appreciate your help and awesome I can't thank you enough. Definitely a big step up from my current build. Everything should be in by this Saturday.
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Enjoy it my friend. That's some crazy good tech you will have there.
Just take your time putting on the cpu cooler, a good mount is pretty important so your CPU will be able to hold those high boost clocks under load.
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