Two_Faced "That lawlessness has caused multiple tragic deaths" lol na.

I love how people are still blaming everything they can besides the actual issue. The people are **** insane.

They should've been moderated and reported. But nothing was done and it was allowed to happen.

XBL-AB okay so i know what 4chan is.. wtf is 8chan

Going to be a bit lengthy because I need to go a little into 4chan before hitting 8chan, but 8chan is basically "4channier than 4chan." The more extreme side of stuff posted there, is the stuff not even 4chan wants and that's saying a lot. There have been other "chan" websites in the past that I would assume most are very dead.

4chan is already seen as extreme by some, especially in the /b and /pol sections. In /b (which is classed as Random) you can find some extremely weird fetishes that people are requesting, people will constantly spam porn, rekt/gore threads (animals, humans, doesn't matter.) A lot of people try to bait others through dark humour, even if it's a recent tragedy. There are other cases of Random getting a little out of hand, there was someone I believe a few years back who killed his girlfriend/a woman he was sleeping with, posted to 4Chan, posted pics of her body, no one believed him, he posted more with timestamps, said her son will be home soon, that's when the body will be found, andddddd wouldn't you know it, her body was found by her son. In the past there have been prank posts to get people to harm themselves. 2 famous ones was the exploding spoon trick and the thread that taught people how to make a chlorine gas in the guise of creating crystals, but you would actually be burning your lungs with homemade chlorine gas. Then there's just creepy instances that are considered internet conspiracies. Another 2 is someone posted coordinates saying there is a prize to anyone who goes to it, was getting very irritated when people weren't showing up, then OP posted an imaged of a severed foot he "found" and later a plastic bag saying that's where the prize is. No one went, he started playing the pity card, someone said they were going, actually went, took pictures from his phone whilst there, found the bag, was just plastic stuff, a dead rodent and a hard drive in there. Later that person posted saying that he heard a car on gravel and then no post came from him or OP after that. Lastly, there was a post I want to say 3-4 years back, someone said they were an old serial killer, if anyone could guess the names of the victims, he would post their photo he had taken of them, gave a free photo since one person's name was too unusual to be guessed and said if anyone one person guessed them all correctly, he would reveal the coordinates of a body, people started guessing, some photos that had no reverse images showed up and finally someone guessed all names, which OP gave the coords, people contacted police and FBI and a body was found there. Last anyone heard from OP on that one.

/b isn't always like that, it's honestly mostly porn, mostly memes, mostly people trying to piss everyone else off and everything else is very niche.

/pol on the other hand is a place you go to have a bad time for just talking about anything. Doesn't matter if you're left wing, right wing, central or whatever, regardless of what you post, you're not going to enjoy your time unless you like trying to trigger people and/or want the attention from trolls/people taking things way too seriously. It's a good place to debate if you're into it, but threads get derailed so quickly.

Both /b and /pol work have worked together in the past. The 3 most famous ones would be starting with Tumblr v 4Chan war that was such a stupid mistake on Tumblr's part, in particular the SJWs. They went to post things about positivity and then try and troll 4chan and that ruined Tumblr for like a whole week. Anything SJW, LGBT, positivity tags or whatever Tumblr uses was spammed with epileptic images, jump scares, gore and extreme porn which caused a rather funny mass hysteria on Tumblr for a little bit. Second would be a more harmless one, as it was seen as "weaponised Autism" but was so damn genius and clever it's unreal. After Trump was elected, Shia LaBeouf started that whole movement of "He Will Not Divide Us" that ended up getting ruined in public, so Shia went and put a flag out in the middle of no where, with a camera pointing at it and that's all, just the sky and flag. /pol and then /b over here end up getting the idea to match up cloud and wind data across the country, they figured out the time zone cutting their search of the whole United Stated by 2/3rds. Frogs could be heard eventually, which showed it was near some body of water. Later 2 planes go by, an air traffic feed is opened showing all planes across the US, people started tracking social media, a waitress in a restaurant in Tennessee tweeted that Shia was there, 4chan asked her where, she told them, they narrowed the search down. 2 more planes would be flying overhead, if it showed on camera, they were correct in location, planes flew by. Narrowed even further, they charted every plane that went by to triangulate the most center area, night time came by, astronomy nerds came into play to look at the constellations, to figure out the angle of the camera, they narrowed it down and then with some trigonometry, got the places it could be at. Someone went out driving and honking their horn and since it was a live stream, people were telling them if they could hear it until they could, in which they stole the "He Will Not Divide Us" Flag and all of that was done before 40 hours. Legit, it was genius seeing that work and if you want to see more about, Internet Historian did a great video on it (Capture the Flag | He Will Not Divide Us Season 3.) 3rd and last example of the usual "most extreme" parts of 4chan working together, is they used the same methods of finding Shia's flag, but did it to find ISIS training camps after execution/propaganda videos went live. Someone on 4chan had contact with someone in the Russian military who was able to relay the information to his higher ups and request bombings of those areas after heavy scouting and reconnaissance, which proved they were actually ISIS training camps and bombed them with airstrikes.

Okay, so with all of that information on the 2 sections that are always seen as the most extreme for 4chan, you now get 8chan. 8chan has it's tame sections, you had people discussing games, people discussing movies, anime, fandoms, memes, people baiting each other, typical internet trolling, pretty normal on the surface; however, once you dug deep enough or in the right sections, 8chan had stuff that was things not even 4chan wanted, given the track record that 4chan usually gets with /b and /pol, you can only really guess what was over there. Child porn was definitely posted over there a few times. The Christchurch shooter used it to link his livestream of the killing, with people cheering him on and now the most recent news. 8chan for the most part was tame, I would argue in certain sections it was tamer than 4chan because unlike 4chan, it's community moderated. So say you were in a gaming section and you started calling everyone the n word, saying people need to kill themselves, you would be banned, where as on 4chan, you would likely just get the posts deleted/thread banned. BUT when it came to the more extreme side of things, 8chan was definitely leagues above 4chan.

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Bleh, a lot of typing, now onto OT:

I don't agree with them shutting down service of 8chan -- now before anyone gets up in arms, listen for a second. As I mentioned in my lengthy post above, 8chan for the most part was and is tamer than 4chan when it comes to your normal sections/threads. It was more of an annoyance because the amount of circle jerking that went on within those sections but they were definitely tamer since they were community moderated instead of staff moderated. 8chan was community, 4chan is staff. So yes, 8chan had a much stricter and a more selective of who is allowed to post within their sections but the normal sections were tamer because you couldn't exactly go in there trying to trigger everyone and be a troll without being banned. HOWEVER, the more extreme threads like gore threads on 8chan, blip past what you'll see on 4chan and that's because of it being community moderated. If most of the mods on one section were an extreme fascist, expect the posts to be aligning with right wing agendas, who will more than likely ban left wing people. If on another section you had an extreme communist, expect the posts to be aligning with left wing agendas, who will more than likely ban right wing people. That's where 8chan fell apart in those controversial sections/extreme sections, if the majority of the mods for that/those sections shared a same belief, of course whatever that is, will be fueled any further. I don't know what sections the Christchurch shooter used or what this guy used for the Texas shooting, but if it was a section that was mainly moderated by white supremacists or people who enjoy watching others die, that's simply going to be amplified to the max and posts pertaining against it, will more than likely be removed with the user(s) being banned, so now the posts supporting their ideology paint the picture that 8chan is just full of [x.] This is why I don't agree with them cutting service, maybe those more extreme sections should have had service cut I could agree with, but not the whole site in general. Reworking how the hell mods work or posting works, where it needs to be approved first instead of just post and it's up there would have been a better fix in my eyes. We just lost on VGG, which is Video Games General where I found out about a lot of indie games to try and overall pretty good discussions, with some minor shit talking. The biggest problem I have though and the sheer and utter hypocrisy I see with Cloudflare, is they legit provide Cybersecurity services to a few terrorist groups, I think 2-3 of those last time I checked that statistic on Reddit were ISIS cells/groups for their websites or whatever they do over there.

TLDR: 8chan had a fundamental flaw with the fact that sections/categories were community moderated instead of staff moderated, which led to some very obvious shifts of what was allowed in certain areas. The media went and lumped all of 8chan into this breeding ground for white supremacists, because 2 prolific mass shooters had used a section where their ideology was shared or by people who liked seeing others die, when in reality, most of 8chan was like a 4chan with Reddit rules. I feel the whole site shouldn't have been banned, either those sections used by the 2 prolific mass shooters or completely rework the posting methods and change the way moderation works. Cloudflare also needs to look at themselves because it has been reported and proven that Cloudflare provides Cybersecurity services to a few terrorist groups, which also needs to be blocked.

8chan is the first I've heard of this compared to four sounds absolutely bad.

okay so i know what 4chan is.. wtf is 8chan

Ngl I'm all for this. The 8chan boards are absolutely disgusting whenever there is a shooting or relatable tragedy. Although it's not the cause of the shootings, it sure has been a way for people to glorify the people that do them and even a way for those people to talk about doing it

Two_Faced "That lawlessness has caused multiple tragic deaths" lol na.

I love how people are still blaming everything they can besides the actual issue. The people are **** insane.

Mental illness and don't forget video games is "purely" the cause

"That lawlessness has caused multiple tragic deaths" lol na.

I love how people are still blaming everything they can besides the actual issue. The people are **** insane.