MW3 Didn't Copy BF3, What Brings Fans Back to CoD, and more

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For those of you who think that only Infinity Ward and Treyarch work on the Call of Duty franchise, you should know that Sledgehammer Games are developing Modern Warfare 3 side by side with Infinity Ward. Today, we have found some interesting things that Glen Scholfield and Michael Condrey, the co-founders of Sledgehammer Games, said about Modern Warfare 3.

When a fan claimed that Modern Warfare 3 is copying Battlefield 3, Scholfield answered “We (the people behind MW3) haven’t copied BF3 at all. No need to and never seen much of it. We’re making the sequal to MW2, that’s what we look at.” Of course, MP1st’s loyal readers might recall that Infinity Ward’s Robert Bowling has only played about an hour of Battlefield 3 and loved it.

On another note, in a recent interview with NowGamer, when ask about the competition with the Battlefield 3, Condrey explained that he shares Eric Hirshberg’s thoughts, which you can find here. He went on to shed some light on what brings gamers back to Call of Duty by stating“It (Call of Duty) is fun, it’s fast, it’s 60 frames per second.” He explained “what 60 fps mean is it feels smooth, you’re in the action right away.” He ended his point with “I think that’s what’s been bringing fans back time and time again to Call of Duty.”

When asked, on twitter, on whether the premium Elite service has anything to do with Dedicated servers on PC. Condrey reassured that “(dedicated servers are) free to all PC. Independent of Elite.”

http://mp1st.com/2011/08/27/mw3-didnt-copy-bf3-what-brings-fans-back-to-cod-and-more-sledgehammer-games-on-mw3/

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DeslGltchPosted:

DryAdrian2640
DeslGltch Everyone seriously needs to shut up about the FPS in MW3. Most of you don't even know what you're talking about, and the ones that talk like they do, really don't know anything... So please shut up.

Also, 60 FPS isn't the reason why people go back to CoD. It's the style of game play, period. Honestly, the producers don't know crap about what brings CoD fan boys back. Most of it is because they are "FAN BOYS". Next reason is the differences between Infinity Ward and Treyarch. It really bugs me how when people hear about a game by Infinity Ward, they automatically think "I can't wait, it's obvious it's going to be better than Treyarch's game!"... Not true. MW2 was a f*ck up. CoD 4 was the only CoD that IW has released that was nearly perfect. Ever since then, they've slowly declined. But now as you can see, they are starting to bring back the old stuff from CoD 4 (the stuff everyone loved).

After IW comes Treyarch. I don't see where the hate for them comes from. They make great games too. Sure Black Ops wasn't good but they did have GREAT concepts. But CoD 3 and WaW were amazing. Plus, in WaW they came up with the best idea in any FPS, Zombies... No one can deny, that it was one of the best game modes ever invented.

Oh so now you guys realize there are FAN BOYS inside of FAN BOYS for CoD players! TREYARCH vs INFINITY WARD!!!!! No... Stop...

Anyways, now comes BF3... BF3 has COMPLETELY different game play compared to CoD. So why compare the two?! It's like comparing Team Fortress 2 to Left 4 Dead...! They are COMPLETELY DIFFERENT. Knock some sense into yourselves before you start a big flame war.

Lastly, both games are going to be GREAT! The only difference between what will make them "great" is how well they sell. Obviously MW3 will sell more than BF3, only because CoD has been the #1 game so many times, that's the only game people think about when they hear the letters FPS.

So please, don't get so damn butt hurt the next time you hear Treyarch releasing a new game, or MW3>BF3/BF3>MW3, or 60 FPS means better game play (when 80% of you don't know what the hell you're talking about, you just try to look like you know what you're talking about).



GG


Finally someone with brain, I'm a big fan of CoD but I'm not one of these people that flame on BF3, totally agree with you bro, I was trying to explain the same thing to other people before but I only got hate for it, hopefully people will take their time and will read what you wrote :)


Big ups to you too. Thanks :)

DryAdrian2640Posted:

DeslGltch Everyone seriously needs to shut up about the FPS in MW3. Most of you don't even know what you're talking about, and the ones that talk like they do, really don't know anything... So please shut up.

Also, 60 FPS isn't the reason why people go back to CoD. It's the style of game play, period. Honestly, the producers don't know crap about what brings CoD fan boys back. Most of it is because they are "FAN BOYS". Next reason is the differences between Infinity Ward and Treyarch. It really bugs me how when people hear about a game by Infinity Ward, they automatically think "I can't wait, it's obvious it's going to be better than Treyarch's game!"... Not true. MW2 was a f*ck up. CoD 4 was the only CoD that IW has released that was nearly perfect. Ever since then, they've slowly declined. But now as you can see, they are starting to bring back the old stuff from CoD 4 (the stuff everyone loved).

After IW comes Treyarch. I don't see where the hate for them comes from. They make great games too. Sure Black Ops wasn't good but they did have GREAT concepts. But CoD 3 and WaW were amazing. Plus, in WaW they came up with the best idea in any FPS, Zombies... No one can deny, that it was one of the best game modes ever invented.

Oh so now you guys realize there are FAN BOYS inside of FAN BOYS for CoD players! TREYARCH vs INFINITY WARD!!!!! No... Stop...

Anyways, now comes BF3... BF3 has COMPLETELY different game play compared to CoD. So why compare the two?! It's like comparing Team Fortress 2 to Left 4 Dead...! They are COMPLETELY DIFFERENT. Knock some sense into yourselves before you start a big flame war.

Lastly, both games are going to be GREAT! The only difference between what will make them "great" is how well they sell. Obviously MW3 will sell more than BF3, only because CoD has been the #1 game so many times, that's the only game people think about when they hear the letters FPS.

So please, don't get so damn butt hurt the next time you hear Treyarch releasing a new game, or MW3>BF3/BF3>MW3, or 60 FPS means better game play (when 80% of you don't know what the hell you're talking about, you just try to look like you know what you're talking about).



GG


Finally someone with brain, I'm a big fan of CoD but I'm not one of these people that flame on BF3, totally agree with you bro, I was trying to explain the same thing to other people before but I only got hate for it, hopefully people will take their time and will read what you wrote :)

DeslGltchPosted:

DeslGltch Everyone seriously needs to shut up about the FPS in MW3. Most of you don't even know what you're talking about, and the ones that talk like they do, really don't know anything... So please shut up.

Also, 60 FPS isn't the reason why people go back to CoD. It's the style of game play, period. Honestly, the producers don't know crap about what brings CoD fan boys back. Most of it is because they are "FAN BOYS". Next reason is the differences between Infinity Ward and Treyarch. It really bugs me how when people hear about a game by Infinity Ward, they automatically think "I can't wait, it's obvious it's going to be better than Treyarch's game!"... Not true. MW2 was a f*ck up. CoD 4 was the only CoD that IW has released that was nearly perfect. Ever since then, they've slowly declined. But now as you can see, they are starting to bring back the old stuff from CoD 4 (the stuff everyone loved).

After IW comes Treyarch. I don't see where the hate for them comes from. They make great games too. Sure Black Ops wasn't good but they did have GREAT concepts. But CoD 3 and WaW were amazing. Plus, in WaW they came up with the best idea in any FPS, Zombies... No one can deny, that it was one of the best game modes ever invented.

Oh so now you guys realize there are FAN BOYS inside of FAN BOYS for CoD players! TREYARCH vs INFINITY WARD!!!!! No... Stop...

Anyways, now comes BF3... BF3 has COMPLETELY different game play compared to CoD. So why compare the two?! It's like comparing Team Fortress 2 to Left 4 Dead...! They are COMPLETELY DIFFERENT. Knock some sense into yourselves before you start a big flame war.

Lastly, both games are going to be GREAT! The only difference between what will make them "great" is how well they sell. Obviously MW3 will sell more than BF3, only because CoD has been the #1 game so many times, that's the only game people think about when they hear the letters FPS.

So please, don't get so damn butt hurt the next time you hear Treyarch releasing a new game, or MW3>BF3/BF3>MW3, or 60 FPS means better game play (when 80% of you don't know what the hell you're talking about, you just try to look like you know what you're talking about).



GG


In the last paragraph i meant MW3 is better than BF3 or BF3 is better than MW3...

DeslGltchPosted:

Everyone seriously needs to shut up about the FPS in MW3. Most of you don't even know what you're talking about, and the ones that talk like they do, really don't know anything... So please shut up.

Also, 60 FPS isn't the reason why people go back to CoD. It's the style of game play, period. Honestly, the producers don't know crap about what brings CoD fan boys back. Most of it is because they are "FAN BOYS". Next reason is the differences between Infinity Ward and Treyarch. It really bugs me how when people hear about a game by Infinity Ward, they automatically think "I can't wait, it's obvious it's going to be better than Treyarch's game!"... Not true. MW2 was a f*ck up. CoD 4 was the only CoD that IW has released that was nearly perfect. Ever since then, they've slowly declined. But now as you can see, they are starting to bring back the old stuff from CoD 4 (the stuff everyone loved).

After IW comes Treyarch. I don't see where the hate for them comes from. They make great games too. Sure Black Ops wasn't good but they did have GREAT concepts. But CoD 3 and WaW were amazing. Plus, in WaW they came up with the best idea in any FPS, Zombies... No one can deny, that it was one of the best game modes ever invented.

Oh so now you guys realize there are FAN BOYS inside of FAN BOYS for CoD players! TREYARCH vs INFINITY WARD!!!!! No... Stop...

Anyways, now comes BF3... BF3 has COMPLETELY different game play compared to CoD. So why compare the two?! It's like comparing Team Fortress 2 to Left 4 Dead...! They are COMPLETELY DIFFERENT. Knock some sense into yourselves before you start a big flame war.

Lastly, both games are going to be GREAT! The only difference between what will make them "great" is how well they sell. Obviously MW3 will sell more than BF3, only because CoD has been the #1 game so many times, that's the only game people think about when they hear the letters FPS.

So please, don't get so damn butt hurt the next time you hear Treyarch releasing a new game, or MW3>BF3/BF3>MW3, or 60 FPS means better game play (when 80% of you don't know what the hell you're talking about, you just try to look like you know what you're talking about).



GG

ClaagggyPosted:

Mercurial1 bf3 is so bad of e game i h8 it so much it slow pace. i get de game of de mw3 because i hav skill n u dunt u suk.


You should go to school and learn to type properly

GuyNamedBobPosted:

shadow1
elfyyevo
fwong42 you do know fps dont make a difference, the human eye cant tell a difference between 30 fps and 60 fps btw battlefields fps runs at a constant 30 while CoDs fps drops to 30 and 20 when the player shoots and aims and sprints. etc


well then you need glasses because i can easily see the difference


Thats just a lie. Its a proven fact that nobody can see the difference between 30fps and 60fps. If you can, you must really hate watching tv dont you?
i can see the difference also. its not a major difference, but its something. if there truly was no difference than developers wouldnt waste time trying to make the game 60fps. im still definetly getting both games though.

isoblueguyPosted:

fwong42 you do know fps dont make a difference, the human eye cant tell a difference between 30 fps and 60 fps btw battlefields fps runs at a constant 30 while CoDs fps drops to 30 and 20 when the player shoots and aims and sprints. etc

lmao. CoD's framerate never drops below 50. N E V E R. It drops to 20? really? do your research before sporting biased fanboy opinions. BF's 30 drops just as much as MW's 60, which isnt much.
The human eye can tell the difference lmfao. Personally, I could hardly care less, but the human eye is certainly capable of telling the difference.

KikotronPosted:

ExpectTheWorst
Duck90
ExpectTheWorst
sF-Jordz
krwskater25
jayjay92895
krwskater25 Oooo.... 60 FPS.... That don't mean crap if you have a junk host
theres a big diff betweeen 60 fps and 30 fps just saying not ttrying to start a big flame war
Ok tell me what the diff is.


30 frames per second is the difference you ****, seriously how old are you 10?


YOU'RE clearly the one who is "10" here. Now read this very carefully because you're about to be proven 100% wrong and everyone here who says "DURR MW3 GONNA BE BETTER CUZ WE HAVE 30 MORE FPS~~" will also be in the same boat as you.

To give an idea of what 30 FPS as opposed to 60 FPS means, consider this: Movies you see at the theater are 24 FPS, which is the most common industry standard for film. Humans generally cannot easily detecte differences in excess of 30 FPS. 30 FPS will do just fine for Battlefield 3, as it would for MW3 if it was also running at 30 FPS.

WANT MORE? What it comes down to, and this is what many console players (Including you, derp) and even members of the press (The absolute GENIUSES at IW) fail to understand, is that the decision to make the game run at 30 FPS and 720p is because to do otherwise would come at extreme expense to the quality of the graphics and even gameplay. Console hardware, both PS3 and 360 alike, is very outdated by now. Battlefield 3 is a truly next-generation first-person shooter, and its unparalleled graphical and technological capabilities require PC hardware to be fully realized, which is half a decade more advanced and powerful than console hardware. Even at 30 FPS and 720p, BF3 pushes console graphics and technology to the absolute visual limit of the console hardwares ability WITHOUT risking damage to the gameplay. It is impressive that the only gameplay compromise that DICE was forced to make for the console versions of BF3 is dropping the player limit from 64 to 24 players.

MW3, on the other hand, is running the same engine they've been running since CoD4 (Just revamped) trolololololol

so how cool to you feel at the fact that youve spent the last few months looking up ways to show that bf3 is gonna be better then mw3? congrats you know how to use google. and saying things like derp and trolololol are a lil old dont you think kid? grow up. there games. and who cares about the pc, only reason people use them is to hack. so now before you go calling anyone a troll look at what you posted... good job, again i give you congrats that you know how to use google... now honestly, for your sake and everyone elses... stfu


No. Lol


Omg.. who cares.. the FPS simply is visual quality! Yes, MW3 will have the engine from CoD4 just revamped; it's funny; that's all COD needs! Battleifield3 is trying sooo hard to get more consumers.. and they might. But after that? People will notice how whack BF3 is and play Mw3 or Gears 3! But everything is opinion. BF3 is the worst War simulating game...

CorsoPosted:

shadow1
elfyyevo
fwong42 you do know fps dont make a difference, the human eye cant tell a difference between 30 fps and 60 fps btw battlefields fps runs at a constant 30 while CoDs fps drops to 30 and 20 when the player shoots and aims and sprints. etc


well then you need glasses because i can easily see the difference

30 and 60 fps is a dramatic change even 60 fps to 90 fps is a big change. After 90 though you can't really tell a difference. I play PC a lot and fps is one of the things that I like to have very high. Anything lower than 60 fps actually hurts my eyes because they are straining.

Thats just a lie. Its a proven fact that nobody can see the difference between 30fps and 60fps. If you can, you must really hate watching tv dont you?

dxbeatsPosted:

Studies by Thomas Edison determined that any rate below 46 FPS "will strain the eye'' http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frame_rate