You Think You Want a CoD4 Remake, But You Don’t – Treyarch

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Recently, David Vonderhaar, Game Design Director at Treyarch, opened up a dialogue with fans revealing what kind of thinking goes into developing a Call of Duty game.

It goes without saying that the Call of Duty franchise has millions of players who play online, 0ver 30 million, to be more accurate. With as much praise as these developers are receiving for building such a popular game, there is most likely an equal if not greater amount of criticism they must face every day. With this many CoD fans, there is bound to be more than a few who are likely to share what they think the game should be like, legitimate or not, in an extremely vocal matter, negative or positive. Vonderhaar, who recently directed last year’s Black Ops, admits that when building a CoD game, it takes much more than just implementing what the fans want.

Vonderhaar put it very nicely while quoting Henry Ford: “If I had asked people what they wanted, they would have said faster horses.” Simply put, fans don’t always know exactly what they want. It’s the job of developers to figure out precisely what they are trying to express. Vonderhaar states, “I always ask you what you want and the problems you have so I can always put in context. And I always will.” He continued, “if we aren’t trying every day to give you the thing you don’t yet know you want, then I don’t deserve this job.” It sounds like a daunting task, but Vonderhaar believes in innovation.

If we are to be completely honest here, we know what a good number of Call of Duty fans always “say” they want the “next” CoD to be like: Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare. “COD4 was a great game; we stand on the shoulders of giants. Some of you want to relive that,” said Vonderhaar. However, he truthfully added that “it would be neither innovation or evolution.” It can be speculated that the reason why fans request such a thing is because for many, CoD4 was their “first” CoD experience. Your first experience in almost anything tends to be the most memorable. However, Voderhaar reminds us that “you can make new ‘firsts’ and if don’t go for that as hard as possible then we shouldn’t be here.”

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Source: http://mp1st.com/2011/12/08/you-think-you-want-a-cod4-remake-but-you-dont/

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IVIATTHEVVPosted:

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IVIATTHEVV COD4 wasn't my first cod it was my third after mw2 and black ops and i found it one of the best games i have ever played.


Facepalm.


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MaddenNFLPosted:

-Alex-2oh9-
pooky177
Moscow
redevil22
-Harrison
triksta2k11
Cent He says they know what we want, yet Black Ops was a massive disappointment.

Treyarc Y U MAKE COD?

The reason why they make CoD is because they are good at making CoD.
At least they don't copy and paste their games like Infinity Ward has done with all their CoDs.
Black Ops was good, in my opinion. In you're opinion, it wasn't. That's ok because that's life. We'll all get over each others opinion's.

No bro, it's a fact that Black Ops was a bad game.


Much agreed


I declared war, You say Treyarch is the worst Cod creator ever yet their next Cod will out sell Mw3!


Please. Tell me what MW3 did new compared to Black Ops (besides guns/maps/survival..oh wait, thats zombies). You can't because Black Ops did more than MW3. MW3 digressed the series, and people only bought it because it had Modern Warfare in the title. Realistically, if they wanted to, they could release Modern Warfare 4 and have the disk only play fart sounds, and it would still outsell the previous COD.
What did Black Ops change from MW2.

Except for the trash graphics and leaderboard.



What did MW3 change from MW2? Except nothing?

TTG_CrysisPosted:

The reason everyone liked CoD 4 so much was the fact that it was CoD 4. Everything was so simple and easy that it really didn't take an extreme amount of skill to master online tactics. It was a simple game yet thee best CoD there was, and ever will be. You didnt have pro perks, crazy kill streaks, crazy gun skills, and more weird and complex things that these companies tried to master but couldnt. The reason CoD 4 will always be the best because it was literally a perfrect game out of the box(Besides Hacks and Mods). Everything was fairly balanced and nothing was to complex, either way there was alaways a way to kill someone fairly. You didnt't have to worry about much either rather than ranking up and unlocking things. Also. it was thee first great CoD, the first TRUE online expirience that has defined the series recently and will still prosper. The only reason that the CoDs keep making more and more money is that you can't play the same game for 5 years straight, the mind mentally desires new content to keep it fresh with information, therefor thats why we keep buying these CoDs.
Treyarch doesnt make bad games, they just try to make the series better, by improving upon the set point(CoD 4) as all CoDs attempt to do. So no flaming, there are both great companies who make good games.

RevealPosted:

We only want CoD4 type of game back because it was the most fun, and memorable game we've played.

-Alex-2oh9-Posted:

pooky177
Moscow
redevil22
-Harrison
triksta2k11
Cent He says they know what we want, yet Black Ops was a massive disappointment.

Treyarc Y U MAKE COD?

The reason why they make CoD is because they are good at making CoD.
At least they don't copy and paste their games like Infinity Ward has done with all their CoDs.
Black Ops was good, in my opinion. In you're opinion, it wasn't. That's ok because that's life. We'll all get over each others opinion's.

No bro, it's a fact that Black Ops was a bad game.


Much agreed


I declared war, You say Treyarch is the worst Cod creator ever yet their next Cod will out sell Mw3!


Please. Tell me what MW3 did new compared to Black Ops (besides guns/maps/survival..oh wait, thats zombies). You can't because Black Ops did more than MW3. MW3 digressed the series, and people only bought it because it had Modern Warfare in the title. Realistically, if they wanted to, they could release Modern Warfare 4 and have the disk only play fart sounds, and it would still outsell the previous COD.
What did Black Ops change from MW2.

Except for the trash graphics and leaderboard.

MidtownPosted:

Moscow
redevil22
-Harrison
triksta2k11
Cent He says they know what we want, yet Black Ops was a massive disappointment.

Treyarc Y U MAKE COD?

The reason why they make CoD is because they are good at making CoD.
At least they don't copy and paste their games like Infinity Ward has done with all their CoDs.
Black Ops was good, in my opinion. In you're opinion, it wasn't. That's ok because that's life. We'll all get over each others opinion's.

No bro, it's a fact that Black Ops was a bad game.


Much agreed


I declared war, You say Treyarch is the worst Cod creator ever yet their next Cod will out sell Mw3!


Please. Tell me what MW3 did new compared to Black Ops (besides guns/maps/survival..oh wait, thats zombies). You can't because Black Ops did more than MW3. MW3 digressed the series, and people only bought it because it had Modern Warfare in the title. Realistically, if they wanted to, they could release Modern Warfare 4 and have the disk only play fart sounds, and it would still outsell the previous COD.

configPosted:

IVIATTHEVV COD4 wasn't my first cod it was my third after mw2 and black ops and i find it one of the best games i have ever played.


Facepalm.

IVIATTHEVVPosted:

COD4 wasn't my first cod it was my third after mw2 and black ops and i find it one of the best games i have ever played.

-SpiritPosted:

black ops was amazing you hated it because it took skill unlike mw2 and you got shit on and blamed the game

shadow1Posted:

It is true. As much as I want another Cod4 or WaW, we dont really want it. If we got what we wanted, we will be disappointed on how some things will be over powered. Before you say nothing was over powered in cod 4, go buy it or play it, get m16 with rds and stopping power with deep impact and find out what happens. The one thing that made both games amazing was that it was new, not a copy and paste. Another thing is perk balance. You couldnt combine stopping power with uav jammer or juggernaut and you couldnt combine things like dead silence and deep impact our last stand. Every perk was equal and had it flaws. Another thing was map flow. Today, the map flow is just terrible. You can hardly walk without being shot. Back then you can have time to run and think at the same time and not get shot. Also, you cant have an underbarrel attachment with your first perk. We may want it back, but you will always say you wont like it because its not new.


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