Is Call of Duty Better Without KDR? CoD Gameplay Designer Answers

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Treyarch Developer, David Vonderhaar, speaks with Call of Duty fans about what role statistics play in a first-person shooter.

“I don’t understand the argument [Call of Duty] is better without KDR,” Vonderhaar stated in response to a number of fans wishing for the abolishment of in-game stats, specifically the kill-to-death ratio. This can be a touchy subject for many FPS enthusiasts. Questions like, “does the k/d ratio truly measure ones skill?” are usually asked when it comes to this topic. Some arguments that you might see against the inclusion of a k/d ratio in any FPS is that it places too much importance on shooting down enemies when the objective of the game type might be something completely different like planting bombs or capturing flags. Of course, this topic is very subjective and can completely depend on how much importance you give to your stats. “If you freak out over your stats … that just makes you a freak. If you obsess over other peoples stats … that just makes you obsessive,” Vonderhaar jokingly yet truthfully stated. He also mentioned that “stats works both ways. You also need to measure if you are getting better.” Vonderhaar has recently been gathering a lot of feedback from the Call of Duty community, most likely in preparation for Treyarch’s title. Make sure to heck out Treyarch Dev: “Perks Are a Reason Why CoD Isn’t Natively Competitive”.

So far, Treyarch’s last title, Call of Duty: Black Ops, did an exceptional job of including objective-based stats on the in-game leaderboards on top of your k/d ratio, something that Infinity Ward’s Modern Warfare 3 has yet to implement, though it was recently hinted at.

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Source: http://mp1st.com/2012/01/22/is-call-of-duty-better-without-kdr-cod-gameplay-designer-answers/

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xtinctgamingPosted:

I think K/D only matters in Team death match and Free for all where you're supposed to just go for kills.

-KreayshawnPosted:

CR3D1TorC4SH
iToXiC
Zaragoza
Sweetie_Belle
CyanogenMod7
oLogicUndead
o____O I think if KD wasn't a factor in CoD people woulnd't try so hard and rage so much.
I second that
I third that o:


I fourth that. I hate when people think K/D is all that. When you basically need gun skill, good callouts and map knowledge to win thats pretty much all.

ill join the club and fifth that. im one of the people who worry about k/d too much if they made it more like halo where k/d really isnt a huge factor then it would be better. On halo the only thing that shows your skill is your win loss ratio
Can we get a sixth? I don't like how W/L is set up though, because of how leaving counts as a loss. Look at the MW3 leader boards at the top for wins. He just dashboards every time he is about to lose. He has over 5K win streak.

SEVENTH ALL THE WAY

ill 8th that

CR3D1TorC4SHPosted:

iToXiC
Zaragoza
Sweetie_Belle
CyanogenMod7
oLogicUndead
o____O I think if KD wasn't a factor in CoD people woulnd't try so hard and rage so much.
I second that
I third that o:


I fourth that. I hate when people think K/D is all that. When you basically need gun skill, good callouts and map knowledge to win thats pretty much all.

ill join the club and fifth that. im one of the people who worry about k/d too much if they made it more like halo where k/d really isnt a huge factor then it would be better. On halo the only thing that shows your skill is your win loss ratio
Can we get a sixth? I don't like how W/L is set up though, because of how leaving counts as a loss. Look at the MW3 leader boards at the top for wins. He just dashboards every time he is about to lose. He has over 5K win streak.

SEVENTH ALL THE WAY

TheBrownGuyPosted:

its all about KDR!!!!!!!!!!

iToXiCPosted:

Zaragoza
Sweetie_Belle
CyanogenMod7
oLogicUndead
o____O I think if KD wasn't a factor in CoD people woulnd't try so hard and rage so much.
I second that
I third that o:


I fourth that. I hate when people think K/D is all that. When you basically need gun skill, good callouts and map knowledge to win thats pretty much all.

ill join the club and fifth that. im one of the people who worry about k/d too much if they made it more like halo where k/d really isnt a huge factor then it would be better. On halo the only thing that shows your skill is your win loss ratio
Can we get a sixth? I don't like how W/L is set up though, because of how leaving counts as a loss. Look at the MW3 leader boards at the top for wins. He just dashboards every time he is about to lose. He has over 5K win streak.

TTg_cntbanusallPosted:

powerslave5689 I wish that they would just make it so that it is there but it just isn't such an important factor. I truthfully think that W/L should be a much more important stat when it comes down to it.
The only thing I hate about W/L is the fact that if your teammates suck then your screwed and you quit to try and find a better game and when you join again you end up in the same game you just left. So it will count as two losses! They should make it so it won't put you back in the same game. Also, slot of the time when you join a game you end up getting in a game that has like one minuet left and it counts as a loss for you if the team did horrible and lost, even if you didn't get a chance to help win.

footehPosted:

Make it so KD is only visible by you... You can measure your progress but you won't have to obsess over whether or not you have a high KD or not.

I personally hate KD. Just do something where it makes it less cared for.

powerslave5689Posted:

I wish that they would just make it so that it is there but it just isn't such an important factor. I truthfully think that W/L should be a much more important stat when it comes down to it.

AsPaPuLcEPosted:

Sweetie_Belle
CyanogenMod7
oLogicUndead
o____O I think if KD wasn't a factor in CoD people woulnd't try so hard and rage so much.
I second that
I third that o:


I fourth that. I hate when people think K/D is all that. When you basically need gun skill, good callouts and map knowledge to win thats pretty much all.

ill join the club and fifth that. im one of the people who worry about k/d too much if they made it more like halo where k/d really isnt a huge factor then it would be better. On halo the only thing that shows your skill is your win loss ratio

CuteyPosted:

CyanogenMod7
oLogicUndead
o____O I think if KD wasn't a factor in CoD people woulnd't try so hard and rage so much.
I second that
I third that o:


I fourth that. I hate when people think K/D is all that. When you basically need gun skill, good callouts and map knowledge to win thats pretty much all.