CoD Developer Seeks Balance Between “Quickscopers” and “Hardscopers”
First, a quick definition of terms: A “quickscoper” can be considered someone who fires a high-powered rifle (usually a bolt-action sniper rifle in this case) immediately after acquiring a target using the game’s built-in crosshairs, taking little to almost no time to aim down the the sights of the rifle scope; a risky but efficient maneuver. “Hardscopers” seek targets in the more traditional sense of scanning the battlefield while aimed down the sights of a rifle scope and firing from this scoped state, usually from an advantageous position.
Along with the rise of quickscoping — a technique that caught some attention possibly during the CoD 2 era, but gained commercial popularity during Modern Warfare 2 — came the controversial debate of whether it can be considered a legitimate technique, or does it exploit the mechanics of a first-person shooter, giving an unfair advantage to the user? Call of Duty developers, Treyarch, made conscious effort to keep 2010′s Black Ops free of such “exploitations”, while Infinity Ward’s recent Modern Warfare 3 embraced it with open arms.
In a conversation with Call of Duty fans, Vonderhaar stated, “I’d like to sit down with the worlds best drag & quickscopers and those who despise it and find something directly in the middle.” He continued, “ADS [Aim Down Sight] sway as well as the ADS and hipfire aim assist (ranges) are tunable on a per gun level. Let’s do this.” To get down to specifics, he then proposed, “.4 ADS raise time. No ‘random bullet.’ Limited hip fire aim assist (MW1 was 1000 inches of hip fire aim assist). Thoughts?” He then clarified that “0.4 is the average on a MW1 style sniper.”
Some fans have expressed concern over receiving only a hit marker when achieving a clear shot to the chest in Black Ops. Vonderhaar explained that this is common “when you are used to ‘chest’ being all the same thing.” However, he admits, ”we wanted it to be a precision shot. Upper torso or head but it was probably too confusing in the end.” It “also had to do with penetration settings,” he added. “You can’t hit a guy in the chest without hitting his arms and hands and sometimes gun first,” which may have added to players’ frustrations.
Vonderhaar was also asked if the possibility of removing aim assist was optional, something that many quickscope nay-sayers would argue is the source of their frustration. He replied, “Yes. It’s now possible to remove aim (hip and ads) from a gun. He also admitted, “the gun not shooting straight till 100% scoped in caused a lot of confusion and frustration for snipers.”
To close, Vonderhaar stated these words: “Balance. That place in the middle where everyone is equally pissed off. Thanks for sharing your passion with me. Reading every reply.”
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Source: http://mp1st.com/2012/02/18/call-of-duty-developer-seeks-balance-between-quickscopers-and-hardscopers/
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DreamsPosted:
quickscoping isnt the problem its the quickscopers that spend 200$ to record themselves play xbox and complain when they get hardscoped (snipers were intended to aim down scope)
JacweePosted:
Chunkuh Honestly, quickscoping isn't fun anymore.. it stopped being fun by the end of CoD4. I enjoy playing the game tactically and winning properly than running around with a sniper. Now it's just a load of kids praying to get a killfeed just so they can **** all over their screen and get about 73 views on youtube.
This sums it up perfectly
ChunkuhPosted:
Honestly, quickscoping isn't fun anymore.. it stopped being fun by the end of CoD4. I enjoy playing the game tactically and winning properly than running around with a sniper. Now it's just a load of kids praying to get a killfeed just so they can jizz all over their screen and get about 73 views on youtube.
LaidPosted:
It's dumb to even argue quickscoping.
If you can't take out a quickscoper when you have a gun, while are you playing COD?
And if you wanna hardscope then hardscope.
Don't bag on quickscopers's.
If you can't take out a quickscoper when you have a gun, while are you playing COD?
And if you wanna hardscope then hardscope.
Don't bag on quickscopers's.
RjTheInsanePosted:
I just still can't get a grasp on this ongoing controversy. I believe that quickscoping requires skill (videogame wise), and therefore don't understand it to be an "unfair advantage". Hardscoping, on the other hand, requires no skill. If you think quickscoping is easy, try doing it on BF3 at long distance.
5FDP_JekyllPosted:
Im Seeing one big Flame war going on in this news article. 1. Quick Scoping is both Luck and skill.
It takes skill to hit your target 60 feet or more away quick scoping but none with hardscoping all that is, is point and shoot. 2. Its Luck when your trick shotting and you hit a 360 no scope 2 or more outta 5 times.
It takes skill to hit your target 60 feet or more away quick scoping but none with hardscoping all that is, is point and shoot. 2. Its Luck when your trick shotting and you hit a 360 no scope 2 or more outta 5 times.
Lucario-Posted:
I say, Make a Sniper Only Game Type.
Leave the quickscopers and hardscopers battle in there not having to worry about SubMachineGuns and ARs.
But also, allow snipers in normal game types, so they can if they want.
Leave the quickscopers and hardscopers battle in there not having to worry about SubMachineGuns and ARs.
But also, allow snipers in normal game types, so they can if they want.
isoblueguyPosted:
Skwuhurljake558242TTG-XboxcoDyDaTallGuy-Smiles-TTG_EFFECTBring_WaW_Back-Smiles-I personally think it's some what skillful, I always thought it to be easy ever since I started doing it in CoD 2, and that stereotype that most people say about quickscopers, like the 360 no scope trick shot stuff doesn't exist with me. I did it because I could get the shot off faster and just as easy as scoping all the way in, and I never go negative quickscoping either, so I figure it's skillful to say the least, that's just my opinion though. P.S just because im good at quickscoping doesn't mean I suck with every other gun, because im just as good with the AR's and SMG's.JagermeisterStevsXxModioxModzxXIt isn't luck one bit, it takes skill!PuLse_GamingWill51 If u buy a game just 2 zoom in faster with a sniper rifle your a fuuucking looser
I hate quickscoping
lol i bet your a shi tty little camper who sits on his arse and waits for people to pass by. your the fu cking loser! a ret ard could use a fully auto weapon and hold both the aim and trigger button and then move the right thumbstick all over the place, it takes no skill to run around with a full auto gun and spray, it takes alot of skill to have good reactions and quickscope a guy if hes shooting at you, you sir no fu ck all, please close your account and sell your mw3!
If that were true, and quickscoping was skill, every pro and normal player could quickscope, but it's not true. It's luck, not skill>>Your HOPING to hit the person. Your HOPING it's a headsot. Your HOPING the person dies instantly.
Also maybe everyone doesn't do it, because they dont want to ? It takes practice you retarded specimen, so that's why every pro and normal player can't do, because they haven't practised/tried it...
You sir. Are probably the most retarded person I have ever SEEN. You're saying quickscoping takes skill? Are you retarded? The first guy was right. It's all luck, you're just hoping to kill the guy because you scope in fast. It's retarded. You're telling me that people like you who go negative every game because they want to quickscope for some stupid montage takes skill? You're the reason why some people hate COD, we join a game and idiots like you who spin around with 360's and throwing knives up in the air hoping to get someone while we do all the work capturing flags and planting bombs. It takes no skill what so ever. I'd like to see you play against pro teams with a automatic gun if you say that takes no "skill".
if quickscoping was luck than anyone could do it at the same skill level, but it is not
if you and i quickscoped against each other, i would win because i am better, not because i am luckier
QuickScoping takes a certain amount of skill and luck. You need a certain amount of skill to be able to zoom in and shoot at the right speed and need to get good reactions. You need luck to be able to kill the enemy with the first shot.
QUICKSCOPING is NOT the same thing as TRICKSHOTTING. Some QUICKSCOPERS may TRICKSHOT but not all QUICKSCOPERS do.
You do need to have some skill to quickscope, even if you rely on luck. If quickscoping was really that much of an advantage, don't you think everyone would snipe instead of using ACRs? I think that people who lose a kill streak by a quickscoper or trickshotter are just sad because that person got a nice kill on them, and they could never replicate the shot that killed them. I am happy (sometimes) when someone trickshots me because I have the possibility to be on youtube although nobody cares about the person dying, I'd be able to say "Thats me!".
I will say though, trickshotting takes no skill when you use a "Dummy".
Quick scoping definitely takes skill. Anybody stating anyways is an ignorant retard.
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