It's not really that people are abandoning instruments, it's just that a computer is much more accessible than years of practicing an instrument. I've been playing piano on and off for about 10 years and I'm still pretty sucky. Same with guitar (only 4 years though).

Pop music is just that: a phase of popularity. Eventually, we'll move on to something new, acting like the bands some people loved before never existed. Do people actually remember Haircut 100 from the 80's? Probably not...

It's rather daft to assume that the music that's popular today will ruin society. Are you referring to how promiscuous teens are? That's because of the progressive parenting movement. (And in my opinion the outlaw of even slight parental corporal punishment.) Teens are acting stupid nowadays because they're aren't necessarily aware that what they're doing is unfathomably stupid. Then again, it could just be that all children are stupid until they get a hold of reality, going by that one alleged Socrates quote:

The children now love luxury; they have bad manners, contempt for authority; they show disrespect for elders and love chatter in place of exercise. Children are now tyrants, not the servants of their households. They no longer rise when elders enter the room. They contradict their parents, chatter before company, gobble up dainties at the table, cross their legs, and tyrannize their teachers.

And to go along with a lack of being told what exactly is right and wrong, teens are sponges of their surroundings. We aren't as mentally developed as we should be, and feel that we need to conform to have a sense of belonging that we crave so much. Some are especially weak and conform to what's currently popular, which happens to be the rap/hip hop counterculture. It's not necessarily the music's fault at all, it's how people interpret it and influence others. Rap was (probably) never meant to be degrading free verse--it was meant to convey the lives of people. It grew from West African stories set by whatever rhythms they could find, then the Harlem Renaissance led to jazz, which led to blues, which then turned to rap somewhere down the line. I'm not much of a fan of rap, but when I hear someone belting out meaningful rap, I'm more than impressed.

But I digress. Going along with what you said before, music nowadays won't ruin the future careers of musicians. It's merely a phase, like synthpop in the 60's and 70's. It'll be a snowy day in hell when the world stops playing actual instruments because people are naturally accustomed to hearing analogue (can't think of a better term...) instruments and will eventually go back to getting into that.

I'm an indie fan myself, and it simply amazes me that even in one year, I lose track of the new artists springing up from out of nowhere. I've completely run out of hard drive space just from my indie and metal (I'm more of a European metal fan--I've always detested 80's metal like Metallica and AC/DC *flamesuit on*)

bloodpain wrote

Finally, someone who like rock,metal,etc.
ROCK OUT

YOU PEOPLE RUIN MUSIC NOT US [ you listen to someone constanty screaming down the microphone and tbh gives me a headache!

like rap, rapers now days (New ones) or like little wayne n etc rap about sex, money, clothes, fame. when you listen to real rapers like Z-ro, Trae the truth and pimp c, paul wall and bun b they rap about the truth and alot of real shit. i dont listen to rock or any thing but this is 100% true talk

Halo3Boooster wrote

bloodpain wrote

Finally, someone who like rock,metal,etc.
ROCK OUT

YOU PEOPLE RUIN MUSIC NOT US [ you listen to someone constanty screaming down the microphone and tbh gives me a headache!

How can one judge whether someone has 'ruined music' merely by one sentence. You are another person of many who judge a genre without giving it a try. Rock and metal is not someone 'constantly screaming down the microphone'.quite far from it. you are most likely refering to screamo. now that is a different genre. Its like others saying rap is all about drugs and murder. People need to stop hating on other genres

now for metal heads


And rap fans


see what i mean.

I like rock and metal, but I also like some rap out there. Most of it is complete garbage(ex. Lil Wayne) but there are some rappers that have meaningful lyrics.

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Some are especially weak and conform to what's currently popular, which happens to be the rap/hip hop counterculture. It's not necessarily the music's fault at all, it's how people interpret it and influence others.

i agree, but when you have artists such as Lil Wayne and others rapping about how they F****d some girl or how they sold/smoke a bunch of drugs it tends to convolute the poetics and meaningfulness of the song and rap itself. Like if i remember correctly when rap was first introduced to North America as well as UE it was a form of poetry, now look at it.

Currently raps portrayed so vulgarly as well as brutish. I'm not saying all rappers add to this portrait, But the majority does. Like take Eminem for instance, his songs "When I'm gone & The way I am" Helped me get through some pretty tough times a few years ago, and to be completely honest I really respect marshal. Though some of his songs I don't really feel the same way about like "insane" from his tape relapse -

"The b*****d won't even eat nothing he's fed up He just hung himself in the bedroom he's dead, Debbie don't let that f****r get you upset, Go in there, stick a f***ing' cigarette to his neck I bet you he's fakin' it, I bet you I bet he probably just wants to see how upset you would get I'll go handle this of course, unless you object, Ah go f*** his brains out, if any's left in his head"

Its music like that, in my mind that is adding to our ever convoluted society. I couldn't agree any more with you, that teens are sponges and we soak up our surrounding. We aren't mentally developed as we should be and we do crave a sense of belonging. But as you did say teens do soak up their surrounding's which means to me, if they listened to a certain type of genre(IE- Dubstep, with its crazy party and rave scene). Kids as well as teens are going to thinks it okay to take drugs, dress inappropriately, Have sex at a young age, resort to violence, as well as other things. Like for instance, I'm from Vancouver. Not to long ago we had a group of girls that had taken E to lose weight because girls from raves were taking it. The police reports ( I'll see if I could find the link if you'd like) stated that the girls that gave the other girls the drugs had taken and as well as bought them to add to their "rave experience". It's quite sad actually because a few of the girls that had taken the drug to loose weight, overdosed and passed away. I knew one of them quite well she was a childhood friend of mine but we ended up straying away from each other (different tastes and stuff).

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Haha I agree mate, I've run out of disc space many a time because of music. That's why i've started to invest in CD's Me as well I've binging on some uk harcore bands as well as some aussy bands for the past few weeks

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like rap, rapers now days (New ones) or like little wayne n etc rap about sex, money, clothes, fame. when you listen to real rapers like Z-ro, Trae the truth and pimp c, paul wall and bun b they rap about the truth and alot of real ****. i dont listen to rock or any thing but this is 100% true talk

I completely agree, but I wasn't referring to all rappers I was referring to the majority that rap about meaninglessness things, such as this rapper. My apologies about the lyrics I tried to look for a censored version.

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Hahaha i couldn't agree any more mate