FrenzyRG wrote

-Jiraiya- wrote

FrenzyRG wrote You said that guns dont kill people but people kill people but if theres no guns then people cant kill people...So why care if you're buying guns for self defence well know you dont have to because no one else is going to have guns...

you are an IDIOT. people will still have guns after they are banned, people will just resort to using other weapons to kill others. I'm sorry but if a policeman goes insane, I want to be ready to defend myself.
If the military and police enforcement has it, why can't I have it to defend myself if they ever decide to abuse their power?

no need to call me an idiot but the other countries are doing fine without guns and only have like 100 deaths a year from murder when america has 15,000

Agreed, nothing is added to society as a whole by having guns. People will always kill people, why give them an easier way of doing it...

FrenzyRG wrote

-Jiraiya- wrote

FrenzyRG wrote You said that guns dont kill people but people kill people but if theres no guns then people cant kill people...So why care if you're buying guns for self defence well know you dont have to because no one else is going to have guns...

you are an IDIOT. people will still have guns after they are banned, people will just resort to using other weapons to kill others. I'm sorry but if a policeman goes insane, I want to be ready to defend myself.
If the military and police enforcement has it, why can't I have it to defend myself if they ever decide to abuse their power?

no need to call me an idiot but the other countries are doing fine without guns and only have like 100 deaths a year from murder when america has 15,000

It seems to me that you think 15,000 deaths is a huge number you pulled out of your ass.
"In 2011 - the latest year for which detailed statistics are available - there were 12,664 murders in the US. Of those, 8,583 were caused by firearms." [ Register or Signin to view external links. ]
Using your logic, why don't we ban alcohol? I mean its linked to 75,000 deaths a year.
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It's because they are taking away our rights.
Why can't you see that when I have a weapon, I will be able to defend myself when the time comes. You only see the bad that comes from people abusing guns.

guns don't kill people, people kill people guns are just tools

It's because they are taking away our rights.
Why can't you see that when I have a weapon, I will be able to defend myself when the time comes. You only see the bad that comes from people abusing guns.[/spoil]but the time will never come if no one has a fire arm and If you're saying alot of gun deaths were caused because of alcohol if guns werent there there wouldnt be drunk assholes shooting irresponsibly. Stop trying to make excuses every time, obama is doing the write thing !

CL4PTRAP wrote guns don't kill people, people kill people guns are just tools

Exactly. People don't see this. Like I said, we might as well ban spoons because people use that as a tool to get fat.
and also Why do you need a knife. Meat comes pre sliced in the store.

-Jiraiya- wrote

FrenzyRG wrote

-Jiraiya- wrote

FrenzyRG wrote You said that guns dont kill people but people kill people but if theres no guns then people cant kill people...So why care if you're buying guns for self defence well know you dont have to because no one else is going to have guns...

you are an IDIOT. people will still have guns after they are banned, people will just resort to using other weapons to kill others. I'm sorry but if a policeman goes insane, I want to be ready to defend myself.
If the military and police enforcement has it, why can't I have it to defend myself if they ever decide to abuse their power?

no need to call me an idiot but the other countries are doing fine without guns and only have like 100 deaths a year from murder when america has 15,000

It seems to me that you think 15,000 deaths is a huge number you pulled out of your ass.
"In 2011 - the latest year for which detailed statistics are available - there were 12,664 murders in the US. Of those, 8,583 were caused by firearms." [ Register or Signin to view external links. ]
Using your logic, why don't we ban alcohol? I mean its linked to 75,000 deaths a year.
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FrenzyRG wrote

-Jiraiya- wrote

FrenzyRG wrote You said that guns dont kill people but people kill people but if theres no guns then people cant kill people...So why care if you're buying guns for self defence well know you dont have to because no one else is going to have guns...

you are an IDIOT. people will still have guns after they are banned, people will just resort to using other weapons to kill others. I'm sorry but if a policeman goes insane, I want to be ready to defend myself.
If the military and police enforcement has it, why can't I have it to defend myself if they ever decide to abuse their power?

no need to call me an idiot but the other countries are doing fine without guns and only have like 100 deaths a year from murder when america has 15,000

Agreed, nothing is added to society as a whole by having guns. People will always kill people, why give them an easier way of doing it...

It's because they are taking away our rights.
Why can't you see that when I have a weapon, I will be able to defend myself when the time comes. You only see the bad that comes from people abusing guns.

Nothing good can come from guns. You defend yourself, and someone else loses a child/father/mother/brother/sister, yes obviously you WOULD defend yourself, but you forget that you are ruining their family as well. So unless they have a gun pointed at you with intent to kill, then you killing them or maiming them will not solve much. Yes, you get to keep your wallet or your TV, but wouldn't being trained in fighting be a better option.. you can defend yourself, and no one needs to die. Guns are the easy way out in most situations. Wars could be prevented if the world was equally maintained, but instead everyone just blows each other up and then reaps the benefits and spoils leftover. Now obviously being able to use handguns at home isn't this extreme, but it is very much the same. Those who steal are the ones who need. If no one needed, no one would steal. And now somehow I have arrived at communism... but I'll save that for later.

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FrenzyRG wrote

-Jiraiya- wrote

FrenzyRG wrote You said that guns dont kill people but people kill people but if theres no guns then people cant kill people...So why care if you're buying guns for self defence well know you dont have to because no one else is going to have guns...

you are an IDIOT. people will still have guns after they are banned, people will just resort to using other weapons to kill others. I'm sorry but if a policeman goes insane, I want to be ready to defend myself.
If the military and police enforcement has it, why can't I have it to defend myself if they ever decide to abuse their power?

no need to call me an idiot but the other countries are doing fine without guns and only have like 100 deaths a year from murder when america has 15,000

It seems to me that you think 15,000 deaths is a huge number you pulled out of your ass.
"In 2011 - the latest year for which detailed statistics are available - there were 12,664 murders in the US. Of those, 8,583 were caused by firearms." [ Register or Signin to view external links. ]
Using your logic, why don't we ban alcohol? I mean its linked to 75,000 deaths a year.
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[spoil]

Fold wrote

FrenzyRG wrote

-Jiraiya- wrote

FrenzyRG wrote You said that guns dont kill people but people kill people but if theres no guns then people cant kill people...So why care if you're buying guns for self defence well know you dont have to because no one else is going to have guns...

you are an IDIOT. people will still have guns after they are banned, people will just resort to using other weapons to kill others. I'm sorry but if a policeman goes insane, I want to be ready to defend myself.
If the military and police enforcement has it, why can't I have it to defend myself if they ever decide to abuse their power?

no need to call me an idiot but the other countries are doing fine without guns and only have like 100 deaths a year from murder when america has 15,000

Agreed, nothing is added to society as a whole by having guns. People will always kill people, why give them an easier way of doing it...

It's because they are taking away our rights.
Why can't you see that when I have a weapon, I will be able to defend myself when the time comes. You only see the bad that comes from people abusing guns.

[/spoil]but the time will never come if no one has a fire arm and If you're saying alot of gun deaths were caused because of alcohol if guns werent there there wouldnt be drunk ******** shooting irresponsibly. Stop trying to make excuses every time, obama is doing the write thing ! what?? OPEN YOUR EYES. This country will not be perfect all the time. What are you talking about? I didn't even say gun deaths were caused by alcohol, i said that we might as well ban alcohol because it causes more deaths than weapons. People will always own firearms. The government will always have firearms and what happens if they become corrupt? You will have nothing to defend yourself with.

Fold wrote

-Jiraiya- wrote

FrenzyRG wrote

-Jiraiya- wrote

FrenzyRG wrote You said that guns dont kill people but people kill people but if theres no guns then people cant kill people...So why care if you're buying guns for self defence well know you dont have to because no one else is going to have guns...

you are an IDIOT. people will still have guns after they are banned, people will just resort to using other weapons to kill others. I'm sorry but if a policeman goes insane, I want to be ready to defend myself.
If the military and police enforcement has it, why can't I have it to defend myself if they ever decide to abuse their power?

no need to call me an idiot but the other countries are doing fine without guns and only have like 100 deaths a year from murder when america has 15,000

It seems to me that you think 15,000 deaths is a huge number you pulled out of your ass.
"In 2011 - the latest year for which detailed statistics are available - there were 12,664 murders in the US. Of those, 8,583 were caused by firearms." [ Register or Signin to view external links. ]
Using your logic, why don't we ban alcohol? I mean its linked to 75,000 deaths a year.
[ Register or Signin to view external links. ]

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Fold wrote

FrenzyRG wrote

-Jiraiya- wrote

FrenzyRG wrote You said that guns dont kill people but people kill people but if theres no guns then people cant kill people...So why care if you're buying guns for self defence well know you dont have to because no one else is going to have guns...

you are an IDIOT. people will still have guns after they are banned, people will just resort to using other weapons to kill others. I'm sorry but if a policeman goes insane, I want to be ready to defend myself.
If the military and police enforcement has it, why can't I have it to defend myself if they ever decide to abuse their power?

no need to call me an idiot but the other countries are doing fine without guns and only have like 100 deaths a year from murder when america has 15,000

Agreed, nothing is added to society as a whole by having guns. People will always kill people, why give them an easier way of doing it...

It's because they are taking away our rights.
Why can't you see that when I have a weapon, I will be able to defend myself when the time comes. You only see the bad that comes from people abusing guns.

Nothing good can come from guns. You defend yourself, and someone else loses a child/father/mother/brother/sister, yes obviously you WOULD defend yourself, but you forget that you are ruining their family as well. So unless they have a gun pointed at you with intent to kill, then you killing them or maiming them will not solve much. Yes, you get to keep your wallet or your TV, but wouldn't being trained in fighting be a better option.. you can defend yourself, and no one needs to die. Guns are the easy way out in most situations. Wars could be prevented if the world was equally maintained, but instead everyone just blows each other up and then reaps the benefits and spoils leftover. Now obviously being able to use handguns at home isn't this extreme, but it is very much the same. Those who steal are the ones who need. If no one needed, no one would steal. And now somehow I have arrived at communism... but I'll save that for later.

Guns are the reason we won the revolutionary war. If we didn't have guns, I bet we'd still be getting taxed with outrageous percentages by the brits. Don't say that there is no good that comes from weapons, because there is. Without it, our country wouldn't be what it is today. It's people like you who are trying to reverse what we fought for.

You know what, I think people on ttg should quit their moaning. Banning guns doesn't affect most of you on here. You're all about 14 and you don't even have/use guns.
So it doesn't concern you.

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Tenacity wrote Ranting about this on this site isn't really going to do much. You might wanna write a letter explaining why they shouldn't be banned.
And if guns weren't invented in the first place, none of this wouldn't have happened. So there's the logic. Sure people will still be able to get a hold of guns, but the crime rate, percentage of shootings or gun related crimes will decrease drastically.

I don't see why a lot of American's say they need guns to 'protect' themselves. Hundreds of countries have a ban on guns, yet they live to see another day.

We had a revolution to fight for our rights. People are taking away what we fought for.
More people die by alcohol poisoning each year and the accidents caused by alcohol, yet we don't ban that
We might as well ban knives because meat comes precut from the fu*king store.
Also, be like other countries that ban weapons for their citizens
LIKE MEXICO
LIKE MOST AFRICAN COUNTRIES?
Tell me how great their country is and explain to me how banning weapons helps them.
PLEASE.

I'm sorry but the United Kingdom is a prime example. You're dwelling on 3rd world countrys, high poverty rates. I disagree with your 2nd ammendmant being broken but it will not do much difference.

I'm also, correct me if I'm wrong, quite sure there is a slight difference between a gun and alcohol. Alcohol is a controlled substance, that kills people whom are idiotic enough to drink too much, I know this due to one of my friends dying from alcohol poisoning. A gun is used to shoot, you don't go buying guns to display in your home do you? You choose to shoot people. The logic dictates that the shooting that has brought this about is that the gun was bought when you could purchase them. Him owning one was completley legal. Look how he abused you're country. How can you blame the government for what a man does, I swear the logic pool of this community drasticly decreases daily.