Why would you shoot a 14-Year old in a head. Pretty sure that's around the age where you fight.

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ExoticWolfs wrote Ok, Pyre, say you lived here your whole life and you were a citizen of the US. You would NOT be saying ban the gun's. Because you just don't get it and you think it will be the solution to everything.

No, believe it or not, there are some people that don't want to own a firearm, ever. Even if I lived in America, I wouldn't want to be associated with guns.

But the problem is, you haven't lived here your whole life! You don't see it the same way as we do. If you did live here, you probably would have some sort of gun.

That may be. But as a neutral party, I'm in favor of a gun-ban. It's worked for other countries, why not the US.

I am sorry for butting in on this conversation. But I do see your point in this. I am an American born citizen. And, at first I never wanted a gun. But after moving down to the state of Kentucky, I realized that having a gun means you can do so much. You can hunt for food, shoot targets for fun, etc. But a gun-ban will do the US no good. If they did ban it, in my opinion, there will be a lot more riots in the US because over 90% of the American population has a gun in there house for safety.

And, in no way am I trying to say you are wrong, and I am right. But I do respect what you said, and it makes a valid point.

Thanks. Atleast someone isn't ignorant. It works both ways aswell, I can see positives of having a gun, don't get me wrong, but I think a human life is more important than hunting for buck.

Looking back at almost everything you posted, what you are trying to say is banning guns will stop killing. Which there are other ways you can kill, you know that right?

No. I'm trying to say that banning guns will stop gun crime.

GUN CRIME?! You don't have to have a gun to kill somebody! If they want to do it bad enough, they will, no matter what it takes.

Referring back to more statistics. Gun crime makes up 40% of the homicides in the US. If guns were banned, that's get vastly reduced. Thus reducing almost 1/3 of the killings in the US.

Referring back to my statement. If they wan't to do it bad enough, they will! With a gun or not, it will happen.

Yes, but without the gun the chances are cut by a third.

So you say if they don't have a gun, they are just going to give up. Not even try to kill them another way, stop just looking at the guns point of view, there are also knifes....

I'm looking at a guns point of view because that's what subject we're on. A kid being shot in the head, a school being shot up and a movie theater. Tell me, how many mass murders happen with weapons that aren't guns compared to guns?

But taking the guns out are going to increase mass murders with other weapons!

How do you know that? Guns are more lethal than knives. It's easier to defend against a knife than a gun.

They could use a Bomb witch would do more then a gun. Also I could right now google how to build a bomb I know I would find something

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ExoticWolfs wrote Ok, Pyre, say you lived here your whole life and you were a citizen of the US. You would NOT be saying ban the gun's. Because you just don't get it and you think it will be the solution to everything.

No, believe it or not, there are some people that don't want to own a firearm, ever. Even if I lived in America, I wouldn't want to be associated with guns.

But the problem is, you haven't lived here your whole life! You don't see it the same way as we do. If you did live here, you probably would have some sort of gun.

That may be. But as a neutral party, I'm in favor of a gun-ban. It's worked for other countries, why not the US.

I am sorry for butting in on this conversation. But I do see your point in this. I am an American born citizen. And, at first I never wanted a gun. But after moving down to the state of Kentucky, I realized that having a gun means you can do so much. You can hunt for food, shoot targets for fun, etc. But a gun-ban will do the US no good. If they did ban it, in my opinion, there will be a lot more riots in the US because over 90% of the American population has a gun in there house for safety.

And, in no way am I trying to say you are wrong, and I am right. But I do respect what you said, and it makes a valid point.

Thanks. Atleast someone isn't ignorant. It works both ways aswell, I can see positives of having a gun, don't get me wrong, but I think a human life is more important than hunting for buck.

Looking back at almost everything you posted, what you are trying to say is banning guns will stop killing. Which there are other ways you can kill, you know that right?

No. I'm trying to say that banning guns will stop gun crime.

GUN CRIME?! You don't have to have a gun to kill somebody! If they want to do it bad enough, they will, no matter what it takes.

Referring back to more statistics. Gun crime makes up 40% of the homicides in the US. If guns were banned, that's get vastly reduced. Thus reducing almost 1/3 of the killings in the US.

Referring back to my statement. If they wan't to do it bad enough, they will! With a gun or not, it will happen.

Yes, but without the gun the chances are cut by a third.

So you say if they don't have a gun, they are just going to give up. Not even try to kill them another way, stop just looking at the guns point of view, there are also knifes....

I'm looking at a guns point of view because that's what subject we're on. A kid being shot in the head, a school being shot up and a movie theater. Tell me, how many mass murders happen with weapons that aren't guns compared to guns?

But taking the guns out are going to increase mass murders with other weapons!

How do you know that? Guns are more lethal than knives. It's easier to defend against a knife than a gun.

They could use a Bomb witch would do more then a gun. Also I could right now google how to build a bomb I know I would find something Yes. Because every mentally unstable person will be able to assemble a bomb in their room.

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ExoticWolfs wrote Ok, Pyre, say you lived here your whole life and you were a citizen of the US. You would NOT be saying ban the gun's. Because you just don't get it and you think it will be the solution to everything.

No, believe it or not, there are some people that don't want to own a firearm, ever. Even if I lived in America, I wouldn't want to be associated with guns.

But the problem is, you haven't lived here your whole life! You don't see it the same way as we do. If you did live here, you probably would have some sort of gun.

That may be. But as a neutral party, I'm in favor of a gun-ban. It's worked for other countries, why not the US.

I am sorry for butting in on this conversation. But I do see your point in this. I am an American born citizen. And, at first I never wanted a gun. But after moving down to the state of Kentucky, I realized that having a gun means you can do so much. You can hunt for food, shoot targets for fun, etc. But a gun-ban will do the US no good. If they did ban it, in my opinion, there will be a lot more riots in the US because over 90% of the American population has a gun in there house for safety.

And, in no way am I trying to say you are wrong, and I am right. But I do respect what you said, and it makes a valid point.

Thanks. Atleast someone isn't ignorant. It works both ways aswell, I can see positives of having a gun, don't get me wrong, but I think a human life is more important than hunting for buck.

Looking back at almost everything you posted, what you are trying to say is banning guns will stop killing. Which there are other ways you can kill, you know that right?

No. I'm trying to say that banning guns will stop gun crime.

GUN CRIME?! You don't have to have a gun to kill somebody! If they want to do it bad enough, they will, no matter what it takes.

Referring back to more statistics. Gun crime makes up 40% of the homicides in the US. If guns were banned, that's get vastly reduced. Thus reducing almost 1/3 of the killings in the US.

Referring back to my statement. If they wan't to do it bad enough, they will! With a gun or not, it will happen.

Yes, but without the gun the chances are cut by a third.

So you say if they don't have a gun, they are just going to give up. Not even try to kill them another way, stop just looking at the guns point of view, there are also knifes....

I'm looking at a guns point of view because that's what subject we're on. A kid being shot in the head, a school being shot up and a movie theater. Tell me, how many mass murders happen with weapons that aren't guns compared to guns?

But taking the guns out are going to increase mass murders with other weapons!

How do you know that? Guns are more lethal than knives. It's easier to defend against a knife than a gun.

They could use a Bomb witch would do more then a gun. Also I could right now google how to build a bomb I know I would find something

You're thinking so unrealistically it's beyond reasoning. Okay, go ahead and google "how to make a bomb". I'd love to see what happens.

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ExoticWolfs wrote Ok, Pyre, say you lived here your whole life and you were a citizen of the US. You would NOT be saying ban the gun's. Because you just don't get it and you think it will be the solution to everything.

No, believe it or not, there are some people that don't want to own a firearm, ever. Even if I lived in America, I wouldn't want to be associated with guns.

But the problem is, you haven't lived here your whole life! You don't see it the same way as we do. If you did live here, you probably would have some sort of gun.

That may be. But as a neutral party, I'm in favor of a gun-ban. It's worked for other countries, why not the US.

I am sorry for butting in on this conversation. But I do see your point in this. I am an American born citizen. And, at first I never wanted a gun. But after moving down to the state of Kentucky, I realized that having a gun means you can do so much. You can hunt for food, shoot targets for fun, etc. But a gun-ban will do the US no good. If they did ban it, in my opinion, there will be a lot more riots in the US because over 90% of the American population has a gun in there house for safety.

And, in no way am I trying to say you are wrong, and I am right. But I do respect what you said, and it makes a valid point.

Thanks. Atleast someone isn't ignorant. It works both ways aswell, I can see positives of having a gun, don't get me wrong, but I think a human life is more important than hunting for buck.

Looking back at almost everything you posted, what you are trying to say is banning guns will stop killing. Which there are other ways you can kill, you know that right?

No. I'm trying to say that banning guns will stop gun crime.

GUN CRIME?! You don't have to have a gun to kill somebody! If they want to do it bad enough, they will, no matter what it takes.

Referring back to more statistics. Gun crime makes up 40% of the homicides in the US. If guns were banned, that's get vastly reduced. Thus reducing almost 1/3 of the killings in the US.

Referring back to my statement. If they wan't to do it bad enough, they will! With a gun or not, it will happen.

Yes, but without the gun the chances are cut by a third.

So you say if they don't have a gun, they are just going to give up. Not even try to kill them another way, stop just looking at the guns point of view, there are also knifes....

I'm looking at a guns point of view because that's what subject we're on. A kid being shot in the head, a school being shot up and a movie theater. Tell me, how many mass murders happen with weapons that aren't guns compared to guns?

But taking the guns out are going to increase mass murders with other weapons!

How do you know that? Guns are more lethal than knives. It's easier to defend against a knife than a gun.

They could use a Bomb witch would do more then a gun. Also I could right now google how to build a bomb I know I would find something

Yes. Because every mentally unstable person will be able to assemble a bomb in their room.

You can always buy one. It wouldn't be to hard. There are also knifes and what not.

Anyway, I'm off to bed.

Good debate guys, good debate!

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Good debate guys, good debate!

About time! I guess that means I can get to bed also.

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Once again, I'll refer you back to my previous post. In Britain, the last mass shooting at a school was 40 years ago. We haven't had one since we put a ban in place afterwards. Yes, there's always going to be psychotic murderers out there, but, I'd feel much safer if I knew those phycho's didn't have a gun in their hand (which I do feel safe because I know they can't go to the nearest store and pick up an assault rifle).

Point is, you Americans can sit back and just watch these mass shootings of innocent kids go on and at the end of the day, all you care about are your guns. I mean, how many more shootings of presidents or innocent people will it take before you ban them?

What good is that doing for you guys. Sitting back and watching kids die? And it isnt easy just to get rid of guns, there would be so much more problems.

Ugh, why can't you ignorant people comprehend that if there were no guns, you wouldn't need guns to protect yourselves. Yes, it'll be difficult, but surely that's better in the long run?

What about all the guns that people already own? You think the military is going to rush into millions of peoples homes and find every gun and destroy it? Just the thought scares me. The riots and protests would be insane.. No need to call us ignorant when we are just debating. :facepalm:

I have no idea how the American government would handle banning guns. But they should do it. Blah blah blah it's against my rights. What about those kids who were shot innocently? They HAD rights, and now, because some crazy kid was able to buy a gun at a store, took away their rights.

Okay, I'm going to give you a hypothetical question, say one of your parents, or close relatives was shot dead for NO reason, would you be or against guns? Give me an honest answer.

Yea um I know for a fact a KID did not just walk up into a gun store and buy a gun. He got it from someone. And yea that kind of stuff happens, and I would be pretty upset but we can't just go out and ban every single gun. People die from illegal and legal drugs too, so how do we go about stopping that? All I know is changing the Constitution would make Americans furious. Why don't we just go back to school security, since so many killings are happening at schools now?

Actually, gun show loopholes. You can literally walk up to a guy at a gun show and buy 10 AR-15s without background checks, a drivers license, or proof of residency. All you have to do is show him the money. If drugs were legalized and regulated, there would be less ODs. Patriot Act and NDAA got rid of our 1st amendment. Americans didn't care. So our schools should be more like third world countries? Where your kids can get shot for being kids.

After reading doing a google search about gun show loopholes, I found that regulated gun shows require background checks for gun purchases. You can buy guns illegally from alot of places though. It's the same with any other illegal thing in the U.S.
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Yahoo answers is opinionated. The other site isnt really credible since its a sub domain.

All you have to do is go up to a person selling from his "private collection" and buy the guns. You do not have to have a license to sell your guns at a gun show(in most areas).

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People would buy AR-15s illegally if gun bans were placed on them. Some things you just can't stop. Gun bans = enraged Americans who want their 2nd Amendment, no protection for people that were actually responsible with their guns before the ban, and an advantage to bad people that buy guns illegally.

Why would a law abiding citizen break the law and buy an AR-15 if its illegal? Then they would become criminals. Even if Americans get enraged, they wont do anything. Proof: NDAA, Patriot Act, Backdoor bailouts, etc. You can still protect yourself with a hand gun or a shot gun. If bad people had to go through a background check and mental health check, im pretty sure the wont pass. Also, 40% of guns sold are bought using the loophole. If you got rid of the loophole and be required to run background checks less criminals would get guns.

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-R3cKL3SSxPro- wrote Dear Pyre I think you don't understand that the problem not just the gun that all you care about the gun.
How is geting rid of the guns going to make me feel safe , someome thats mental ill could easily build a gun and come into my house and shoot me. **** what do I do call the police o wait they don't have a gun, fight back no o yeah talk him out of it logical

Adam Lanza Killed his mom how sick do you have to be.

Your family one day-honey there someone Breaking in... Ill talk him out of this bang bang your kids are died, his come for you wait let me talk to him man put the gun down (no your dead)
Or honey someone Brealing ok I'll grab the shot gun you get the 45 get to the kids room. Bang mans Dead family's alive. Your kids live to see Another day and dady will do anything to protect them

I don't take murder Lightly, my dad was a police officer and one of good friends was guned down in a police car on break haveing a conversation on the phone with his wife. the gun was found later on and it was legal.



Okay, you're an embarrassment to anyone in here trying to have a serious debate. You're talking about murder as if it was nothing. Yes, I'd have to risk myself by disarming someone, or I could use simple psychology to try and calm the attacker down. Not shoot him.

Dear Reckless Pro, where are you from? And do you know proper English?

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If a mentally ill person built a gun, I'd be quite impressed.

That is not a Response lol , gotta Critique him to get off topic .

This is just showing your Background in weapons. you know nothing. Call of duty doesn't count

Have you ever fired a Weapon before? I guarantee not

No, I've never fired a weapon, and never want to. As I said, I don't want to be associated with guns.

And to the person who's constantly disliking my posts, well done big boy, we're having a debate, not an argument.

Ok Jolly Roger I am not Disliking your posts I'm am have a debate

That's your problem you never step away from the front of your computer screen never go out and shoot ar 15, colt 45, Glock 17 or shotgun, you don't understand it's not just for killing People, guns are people's Hobbies to have fun.

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-R3cKL3SSxPro- wrote Dear Pyre I think you don't understand that the problem not just the gun that all you care about the gun.
How is geting rid of the guns going to make me feel safe , someome thats mental ill could easily build a gun and come into my house and shoot me. **** what do I do call the police o wait they don't have a gun, fight back no o yeah talk him out of it logical

Adam Lanza Killed his mom how sick do you have to be.

Your family one day-honey there someone Breaking in... Ill talk him out of this bang bang your kids are died, his come for you wait let me talk to him man put the gun down (no your dead)
Or honey someone Brealing ok I'll grab the shot gun you get the 45 get to the kids room. Bang mans Dead family's alive. Your kids live to see Another day and dady will do anything to protect them

I don't take murder Lightly, my dad was a police officer and one of good friends was guned down in a police car on break haveing a conversation on the phone with his wife. the gun was found later on and it was legal.



Okay, you're an embarrassment to anyone in here trying to have a serious debate. You're talking about murder as if it was nothing. Yes, I'd have to risk myself by disarming someone, or I could use simple psychology to try and calm the attacker down. Not shoot him.

Dear Reckless Pro, where are you from? And do you know proper English?

On-topic:

If a mentally ill person built a gun, I'd be quite impressed.

That is not a Response lol , gotta Critique him to get off topic .

This is just showing your Background in weapons. you know nothing. Call of duty doesn't count

Have you ever fired a Weapon before? I guarantee not

No, I've never fired a weapon, and never want to. As I said, I don't want to be associated with guns.

And to the person who's constantly disliking my posts, well done big boy, we're having a debate, not an argument.

Ok Jolly Roger I am not Disliking your posts I'm am have a debate

That's your problem you never step away from the front of your computer screen never go out and shoot ar 15, colt 45, Glock 17 or shotgun, you don't understand it's not just for killing People, guns are people's Hobbies to have fun.

He thinks getting rid of guns will solve everything.