Ok first let's not hate each other it''s just a debate. Your argued that Assault Rifles were already banned. Yes automatic assault rifles are banned. But not Semi-Automatic. A responsible gun owner locks his guns in a safe and chains it to prevent un-authorized use. So these lives are protected. And I'm still able to enjoy my day at the range.

tpayne174 wrote Ok, whether we are talking about automatics or semi autos, if a criminal wants a gun, he/she will get a gun. Illegally or legally. Price is no matter for some of these people.

That is true to an extent. Making laws that regulate who owns guns and what type of guns can be owned legally will make it a lot harder for criminals to get weapons. I don't think anyone will ever be in a predicament in which they would be better of having a semi-automatic rifle than a pistol.

A pistol is perfectly capable of protecting you. I'm not saying weapons should be banned by no means. I do think laws need to be made that makes it harder for people to get a weapon.

tpayne174 wrote Ok, whether we are talking about automatics or semi autos, if a criminal wants a gun, he/she will get a gun. Illegally or legally. Price is no matter for some of these people.

Exactly but banning them just makes the situation worse.

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tpayne174 wrote Ok, whether we are talking about automatics or semi autos, if a criminal wants a gun, he/she will get a gun. Illegally or legally. Price is no matter for some of these people.

That is true to an extent. Making laws that regulate who owns guns and what type of guns can be owned legally will make it a lot harder for criminals to get weapons. I don't think anyone will ever be in a predicament in which they would be better of having a semi-automatic rifle than a pistol.

A pistol is perfectly capable of protecting you. I'm not saying weapons should be banned by no means. I do think laws need to be made that makes it harder for people to get a weapon.

Every law that bans a gun, or makes it harder to get one will only make these criminal organizations more powerful.

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tpayne174 wrote Ok, whether we are talking about automatics or semi autos, if a criminal wants a gun, he/she will get a gun. Illegally or legally. Price is no matter for some of these people.

That is true to an extent. Making laws that regulate who owns guns and what type of guns can be owned legally will make it a lot harder for criminals to get weapons. I don't think anyone will ever be in a predicament in which they would be better of having a semi-automatic rifle than a pistol.

A pistol is perfectly capable of protecting you. I'm not saying weapons should be banned by no means. I do think laws need to be made that makes it harder for people to get a weapon.

Every law that bans a gun, or makes it harder to get one will only make these criminal organizations more powerful.

How in the world would making something illegal make organizations more powerful?

That's like saying if alcohol were to be made illegal it would make companies like Budweiser more powerful.

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Finder wrote

tpayne174 wrote Ok, whether we are talking about automatics or semi autos, if a criminal wants a gun, he/she will get a gun. Illegally or legally. Price is no matter for some of these people.

That is true to an extent. Making laws that regulate who owns guns and what type of guns can be owned legally will make it a lot harder for criminals to get weapons. I don't think anyone will ever be in a predicament in which they would be better of having a semi-automatic rifle than a pistol.

A pistol is perfectly capable of protecting you. I'm not saying weapons should be banned by no means. I do think laws need to be made that makes it harder for people to get a weapon.

Every law that bans a gun, or makes it harder to get one will only make these criminal organizations more powerful.

How in the world would making something illegal make organizations more powerful?

That's like saying if alcohol were to be made illegal it would make companies like Budweiser more powerful.

Alcohol is a perfect example. If you know your history well you should know about the time US prohibited alcohol. A ring leader named Al Kapone took advantage of this time and had billions of dollars worth alcohol smuggled and sold. Because of this Al Kapone's Gang was one of the most deadliest in their time.

The situation now is gangs or criminal organizations will no doubt take advantage of this situation. Re-read what I wrote on the very start.

1st. Honduras is the murder capital.
2nd. The US provides guns to the Mexican cartels using the gun show loophole. Not the other way around.
3rd. Guns bought from said loophole are not registered. Thus, untraceable.

The reason why gun crime rate is high is because of the "war on drugs". Legalize and regulate. If you want to stop mass/school shootings, universal background checks.

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tpayne174 wrote Ok, whether we are talking about automatics or semi autos, if a criminal wants a gun, he/she will get a gun. Illegally or legally. Price is no matter for some of these people.

That is true to an extent. Making laws that regulate who owns guns and what type of guns can be owned legally will make it a lot harder for criminals to get weapons. I don't think anyone will ever be in a predicament in which they would be better of having a semi-automatic rifle than a pistol.

A pistol is perfectly capable of protecting you. I'm not saying weapons should be banned by no means. I do think laws need to be made that makes it harder for people to get a weapon.

Every law that bans a gun, or makes it harder to get one will only make these criminal organizations more powerful.

How in the world would making something illegal make organizations more powerful?

That's like saying if alcohol were to be made illegal it would make companies like Budweiser more powerful.

Alcohol is a perfect example. If you know your history well you should know about the time US prohibited alcohol. A ring leader named Al Kapone took advantage of this time and had billions of dollars worth alcohol smuggled and sold. Because of this Al Kapone's Gang was one of the most deadliest in their time.

The situation now is gangs or criminal organizations will no doubt take advantage of this situation. Re-read what I wrote on the very start.

That was almost 100 years ago. The country is a lot different. Our government is a lot more capable now to stop things like that. I think billions of dollars is a bit of an exaggeration also. If you think the laws with guns we have right now are perfectly fine and you don't want to make any effort to prevent things like the Aurora and Sandy Hook shootings from happening I'm done arguing with you.

It makes me sick to my stomach to here the horrible things those people went through. The last thing I want to do is to read another news headline saying multiple American's were killed due to an idiot that got hold of a gun and killed innocent people.

661King wrote 1st. Honduras is the murder capital.
2nd. The US provides guns to the Mexican cartels using the gun show loophole. Not the other way around.
3rd. Guns bought from said loophole are not registered. Thus, untraceable.

The reason why gun crime rate is high is because of the "war on drugs". Legalize and regulate. If you want to stop mass/school shootings, universal background checks.

1. Brazil has the most gun related deaths in the world.
2. If you believe that crap then you should study up. And the Mexican cartels aren't the only ones.
3. I already said that. This loophole stuff does not supply the whole Mexican cartel, maybe a good 4%

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tpayne174 wrote Ok, whether we are talking about automatics or semi autos, if a criminal wants a gun, he/she will get a gun. Illegally or legally. Price is no matter for some of these people.

That is true to an extent. Making laws that regulate who owns guns and what type of guns can be owned legally will make it a lot harder for criminals to get weapons. I don't think anyone will ever be in a predicament in which they would be better of having a semi-automatic rifle than a pistol.

A pistol is perfectly capable of protecting you. I'm not saying weapons should be banned by no means. I do think laws need to be made that makes it harder for people to get a weapon.

Every law that bans a gun, or makes it harder to get one will only make these criminal organizations more powerful.

How in the world would making something illegal make organizations more powerful?

That's like saying if alcohol were to be made illegal it would make companies like Budweiser more powerful.

Alcohol is a perfect example. If you know your history well you should know about the time US prohibited alcohol. A ring leader named Al Kapone took advantage of this time and had billions of dollars worth alcohol smuggled and sold. Because of this Al Kapone's Gang was one of the most deadliest in their time.

The situation now is gangs or criminal organizations will no doubt take advantage of this situation. Re-read what I wrote on the very start.

Alcohol and guns are two different things. People can be addicted to Alcohol, Alcoholism. Its consumable. Guns are not.