Sith wrote

Hall wrote

Sith wrote

Roux wrote

Hall wrote

Roux wrote I personally think religion was a tool to create conflict, and the trend caught on. I don't believe there is a divine being(s). I mean, as you eloquently put it; why would God create a world this dark? If God was all-loving, there wouldn't be a hell. Everyone would go to heaven.

Anyway, I think you can tell I'm atheist.

I know, but as others have suggested, God did apparently give us free will, for a reason, which is something to think about.

God didn't give me free will. I was given free will the day I was born.

Biblically and in Apocryphal terms, Lucifer gave you free will.
God gifted you free will to do different things, eg; pick up a cup or leave it.
Lucifer tempted and consequently enforced free will upon us so that we would have the choice to do evil.

However, if you discard all belief in a deity then yes, you inherited free will simply by being conceived.

Ohh, that sounds like something they would say, gives more credit to God and more hatred to Lucifer haha

Indeed.
However, that given grandeur and authority achieved yet undeserved by God can be snatched back in a few simple pages of the contradictory and poorly written text used as a platform for all manner of horrible deeds and doubtful actions committed by said God.
Only the great Judeo-Christian God could claim omnibenevolence, then slave off entire cities to genocide at the tip of a sword with an army of brainwashed barbarians holding the handle, including the mass, malevolent murder of babies and pregnant woman.
The God that tells you that you must love him more than your own flesh and blood and that if he desires and wills it to be you must be ready to gut your kids to show your love for him.
All the while condemning those accused of vilification to eternal Hellfire for succumbing to the consequences of a mistake made by one woman with no knowledge of where, why or what she was before taking the fateful bite into a cursed apple after being tempted by an angel that God in all of his greatness failed to deal with accordingly.

God deserves pity more than respect, like an ill patient on a psyche ward.

I apologize for the grandiloquence.

Damn, like, you should right a paper or book on this, not just because of the fancy word use, but because of your ideas and how you come about saying them. Much much respect to you ^.^

Sith wrote

Hall wrote

Sith wrote

Roux wrote

Hall wrote

Roux wrote I personally think religion was a tool to create conflict, and the trend caught on. I don't believe there is a divine being(s). I mean, as you eloquently put it; why would God create a world this dark? If God was all-loving, there wouldn't be a hell. Everyone would go to heaven.

Anyway, I think you can tell I'm atheist.

I know, but as others have suggested, God did apparently give us free will, for a reason, which is something to think about.

God didn't give me free will. I was given free will the day I was born.

Biblically and in Apocryphal terms, Lucifer gave you free will.
God gifted you free will to do different things, eg; pick up a cup or leave it.
Lucifer tempted and consequently enforced free will upon us so that we would have the choice to do evil.

However, if you discard all belief in a deity then yes, you inherited free will simply by being conceived.

Ohh, that sounds like something they would say, gives more credit to God and more hatred to Lucifer haha

Indeed.
However, that given grandeur and authority achieved yet undeserved by God can be snatched back in a few simple pages of the contradictory and poorly written text used as a platform for all manner of horrible deeds and doubtful actions committed by said God.
Only the great Judeo-Christian God could claim omnibenevolence, then slave off entire cities to genocide at the tip of a sword with an army of brainwashed barbarians holding the handle, including the mass, malevolent murder of babies and pregnant woman.
The God that tells you that you must love him more than your own flesh and blood and that if he desires and wills it to be you must be ready to gut your kids to show your love for him.
All the while condemning those accused of vilification to eternal Hellfire for succumbing to the consequences of a mistake made by one woman with no knowledge of where, why or what she was before taking the fateful bite into a cursed apple after being tempted by an angel that God in all of his greatness failed to deal with accordingly.

God deserves pity more than respect, like an ill patient on a psyche ward.

I apologize for the grandiloquence.

Ladies and Gentlemen, that is how you SithSlap God.

MLGTricky wrote Although i agree with you,(I do belive in a higher being though)
God is, hypothetically of course, all powerful.
But, he does not help humans because this world is our test.
As for most religions being wrong, That is a good argument that no one has a good answer for!

Thank you for being respectful! And I suppose that would make some sense if this world was a test, but I'm pretty sure humanity is failing haha

When 'God' Made the earth he was not supposed to make it PERFECT! He makes the earth and let's the humans make their own decision. Because if he fixes stuff randomly people will see it's a 'Miracle'

At this point it's any ones guess if he exists,
I believe in A god, but that doesn't mean I respect him, in fact I despise him.
To have all that power, yet he just sits around as good people are killed EVERY SINGLE DAY!

MLGTricky wrote At this point it's any ones guess if he exists,
I believe in A god, but that doesn't mean I respect him, in fact I despise him.
To have all that power, yet he just sits around as good people are killed EVERY SINGLE DAY!

Isn't it pretty obvious then that there is no God? You really don't have any reason to believe in him. I'm not trying to convert, but I mean what you're saying, it sounds like you just believe because it seems "right". It's like you want there to be a God.

-Kyle-- wrote

MLGTricky wrote At this point it's any ones guess if he exists,
I believe in A god, but that doesn't mean I respect him, in fact I despise him.
To have all that power, yet he just sits around as good people are killed EVERY SINGLE DAY!

Isn't it pretty obvious then that there is no God? You really don't have any reason to believe in him. I'm not trying to convert, but I mean what you're saying, it sounds like you just believe because it seems "right". It's like you want there to be a God.

Too many it does just seem right to believe, being born into a religiously strict family, church every Sunday, grace at dinner, praying nightly, (strict religious habits vary with different religions). Some people are raised on religion, and find it hard just to throw away after 16-22 years of brainwashing (I guess this age range because the person will reach adolescence and question everything).

I don't know how many times I've heard the question:

Religious People Reconsidering The Existence of God wrote "But what if I'm wrong? I'm better off believing and if he exists I go to heaven, if he doesn't, no big deal."

I feel like using a lot of your time and effort worshiping a higher power that turns out to never exist is a big waste of time and therefore a big deal.. but thats just me.

Hall wrote

-Kyle-- wrote

MLGTricky wrote At this point it's any ones guess if he exists,
I believe in A god, but that doesn't mean I respect him, in fact I despise him.
To have all that power, yet he just sits around as good people are killed EVERY SINGLE DAY!

Isn't it pretty obvious then that there is no God? You really don't have any reason to believe in him. I'm not trying to convert, but I mean what you're saying, it sounds like you just believe because it seems "right". It's like you want there to be a God.

Too many it does just seem right to believe, being born into a religiously strict family, church every Sunday, grace at dinner, praying nightly, (strict religious habits vary with different religions). Some people are raised on religion, and find it hard just to throw away after 16-22 years of brainwashing (I guess this age range because the person will reach adolescence and question everything).

I don't know how many times I've heard the question:

Religious People Reconsidering The Existence of God wrote "But what if I'm wrong? I'm better off believing and if he exists I go to heaven, if he doesn't, no big deal."

I feel like using a lot of your time and effort worshiping a higher power that turns out to never exist is a big waste of time and therefore a big deal.. but thats just me.

I was born into a religious family too. I was told what was right & wrong from the bible. I honestly don't know how I got so different from my family. I started questioning my religion when I was 13, now I'm 15. Now I know my view on it, but it's still weird after being in such a religious family (Still am, but refuse to go. I'm the outcast of the family in those regards).

Hall wrote

-Kyle-- wrote

MLGTricky wrote At this point it's any ones guess if he exists,
I believe in A god, but that doesn't mean I respect him, in fact I despise him.
To have all that power, yet he just sits around as good people are killed EVERY SINGLE DAY!

Isn't it pretty obvious then that there is no God? You really don't have any reason to believe in him. I'm not trying to convert, but I mean what you're saying, it sounds like you just believe because it seems "right". It's like you want there to be a God.

Too many it does just seem right to believe, being born into a religiously strict family, church every Sunday, grace at dinner, praying nightly, (strict religious habits vary with different religions). Some people are raised on religion, and find it hard just to throw away after 16-22 years of brainwashing (I guess this age range because the person will reach adolescence and question everything).

I don't know how many times I've heard the question:

Religious People Reconsidering The Existence of God wrote "But what if I'm wrong? I'm better off believing and if he exists I go to heaven, if he doesn't, no big deal."

I feel like using a lot of your time and effort worshiping a higher power that turns out to never exist is a big waste of time and therefore a big deal.. but thats just me.

That's also a logical fallacy known as Pascals Wager.

Do people with that attitude think that their all knowing God wouldn't see their belief is fake?
That they are believing out of an insurance policy and not through true faith and conviction?

-Kyle-- wrote

Hall wrote

-Kyle-- wrote

MLGTricky wrote At this point it's any ones guess if he exists,
I believe in A god, but that doesn't mean I respect him, in fact I despise him.
To have all that power, yet he just sits around as good people are killed EVERY SINGLE DAY!

Isn't it pretty obvious then that there is no God? You really don't have any reason to believe in him. I'm not trying to convert, but I mean what you're saying, it sounds like you just believe because it seems "right". It's like you want there to be a God.

Too many it does just seem right to believe, being born into a religiously strict family, church every Sunday, grace at dinner, praying nightly, (strict religious habits vary with different religions). Some people are raised on religion, and find it hard just to throw away after 16-22 years of brainwashing (I guess this age range because the person will reach adolescence and question everything).

I don't know how many times I've heard the question:

Religious People Reconsidering The Existence of God wrote "But what if I'm wrong? I'm better off believing and if he exists I go to heaven, if he doesn't, no big deal."

I feel like using a lot of your time and effort worshiping a higher power that turns out to never exist is a big waste of time and therefore a big deal.. but thats just me.

I was born into a religious family too. I was told what was right & wrong from the bible. I honestly don't know how I got so different from my family. I started questioning my religion when I was 13, now I'm 15. Now I know my view on it, but it's still weird after being in such a religious family (Still am, but refuse to go. I'm the outcast of the family in those regards).

Same here, my family isn't strictly religious, but fairly strongly, I've been the outcast every since I rid myself of religious thinking. So I know exactly what you're saying, I think most atheists/agnostics start this way.