Scizor wrote The idea of everyone owning a gun is a scary thought, considering the amount of mentally unstable and on edge members of society we have. I am very pro gun ownership, I believe that the knowledge and responsibility of owning, firing, and maintaining a firearm is a very valuable thing, and it would be nice for every responsible american to learn, but I obviously know this can't happen.

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As for people who say that they wish to own a fully automatic rifle in the states, while I wont question your constitutional right to bear arms, I do have to ask, why? Yes a very small minority of you may have the practical use for one, but this also requires VERY expensive government permits, review boards, tax stamp, and then AT LEAST 20 grand for the weapon. I also question the method to the madness for people who believe in suppressor ownership in the states for the average licensed gun owner. There is no need. If you're hunting with a relatively cheap .223 Winchester for example, you don't have any use for a suppressor in those situations, it's a very expensive piece of equipment for such a small "need".

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I got a little off topic there, but yes I understand it can be angering seeing people with absolutely no firearms experience trying to tell you what you should and should not do with yours. A general public teaching of firearms could really help the public opinion of firearm owners in my opinion, but this isn't going to happen on a large scale sadly. I'd say our best bet is to help inform people in a non down-bringing manner and show that we aren't all fanatical, mentally damaged, gun owners. When we attack anyone and everyone who disagrees with our opinions on ownership we are only adding fuel to the Stereotype fire.

You bring up the word "need" a lot. The 2nd Amendment guarantees a "right", meaning it is guaranteed to the people. It is called the Bill of Rights and not the Bill of Needs for a reason. Why does someone need a vacation home? Why do you need two houses, you can't be in both at the same time? Why does someone need a Ferrari? Speed limits are at 60 usually and that is a car capable of going well over triple that. Why do you need a car that can do that? Why do you need half of the things you have? Why do you need an Xbox or Playstation? The answer is you don't, it is a want. But you are still allowed to have it. Guns are guaranteed in the Constitution as a Right protected by the government, they are not simply a want, but a right.

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I'm in the UK and it sucks not being able to have hand guns, machine guns... I mean you can get them but in the smallest calibre possible. I have 2 rifles, a shotgun and a pistol that has been lost :/

Cinema4D wrote

Scizor wrote The idea of everyone owning a gun is a scary thought, considering the amount of mentally unstable and on edge members of society we have. I am very pro gun ownership, I believe that the knowledge and responsibility of owning, firing, and maintaining a firearm is a very valuable thing, and it would be nice for every responsible american to learn, but I obviously know this can't happen.

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As for people who say that they wish to own a fully automatic rifle in the states, while I wont question your constitutional right to bear arms, I do have to ask, why? Yes a very small minority of you may have the practical use for one, but this also requires VERY expensive government permits, review boards, tax stamp, and then AT LEAST 20 grand for the weapon. I also question the method to the madness for people who believe in suppressor ownership in the states for the average licensed gun owner. There is no need. If you're hunting with a relatively cheap .223 Winchester for example, you don't have any use for a suppressor in those situations, it's a very expensive piece of equipment for such a small "need".

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I got a little off topic there, but yes I understand it can be angering seeing people with absolutely no firearms experience trying to tell you what you should and should not do with yours. A general public teaching of firearms could really help the public opinion of firearm owners in my opinion, but this isn't going to happen on a large scale sadly. I'd say our best bet is to help inform people in a non down-bringing manner and show that we aren't all fanatical, mentally damaged, gun owners. When we attack anyone and everyone who disagrees with our opinions on ownership we are only adding fuel to the Stereotype fire.

You bring up the word "need" a lot. The 2nd Amendment guarantees a "right", meaning it is guaranteed to the people. It is called the Bill of Rights and not the Bill of Needs for a reason. Why does someone need a vacation home? Why do you need two houses, you can't be in both at the same time? Why does someone need a Ferrari? Speed limits are at 60 usually and that is a car capable of going well over triple that. Why do you need a car that can do that? Why do you need half of the things you have? Why do you need an Xbox or Playstation? The answer is you don't, it is a want. But you are still allowed to have it. Guns are guaranteed in the Constitution as a Right protected by the government, they are not simply a want, but a right.

I'm sorry, I should have specified "want", rather than need. I understand that our ownership is rightfully protected, however their is a difference. Just because you can go out and get a loan for a million dollar home, should you? It's a question of morals I'm posing, not right or wrong. I personally will defend the right for a citizen to own those, but I will not be personally pursuing my ownership of them.

Scizor wrote

Cinema4D wrote

Scizor wrote The idea of everyone owning a gun is a scary thought, considering the amount of mentally unstable and on edge members of society we have. I am very pro gun ownership, I believe that the knowledge and responsibility of owning, firing, and maintaining a firearm is a very valuable thing, and it would be nice for every responsible american to learn, but I obviously know this can't happen.

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As for people who say that they wish to own a fully automatic rifle in the states, while I wont question your constitutional right to bear arms, I do have to ask, why? Yes a very small minority of you may have the practical use for one, but this also requires VERY expensive government permits, review boards, tax stamp, and then AT LEAST 20 grand for the weapon. I also question the method to the madness for people who believe in suppressor ownership in the states for the average licensed gun owner. There is no need. If you're hunting with a relatively cheap .223 Winchester for example, you don't have any use for a suppressor in those situations, it's a very expensive piece of equipment for such a small "need".

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I got a little off topic there, but yes I understand it can be angering seeing people with absolutely no firearms experience trying to tell you what you should and should not do with yours. A general public teaching of firearms could really help the public opinion of firearm owners in my opinion, but this isn't going to happen on a large scale sadly. I'd say our best bet is to help inform people in a non down-bringing manner and show that we aren't all fanatical, mentally damaged, gun owners. When we attack anyone and everyone who disagrees with our opinions on ownership we are only adding fuel to the Stereotype fire.

You bring up the word "need" a lot. The 2nd Amendment guarantees a "right", meaning it is guaranteed to the people. It is called the Bill of Rights and not the Bill of Needs for a reason. Why does someone need a vacation home? Why do you need two houses, you can't be in both at the same time? Why does someone need a Ferrari? Speed limits are at 60 usually and that is a car capable of going well over triple that. Why do you need a car that can do that? Why do you need half of the things you have? Why do you need an Xbox or Playstation? The answer is you don't, it is a want. But you are still allowed to have it. Guns are guaranteed in the Constitution as a Right protected by the government, they are not simply a want, but a right.

I'm sorry, I should have specified "want", rather than need. I understand that our ownership is rightfully protected, however their is a difference. Just because you can go out and get a loan for a million dollar home, should you? It's a question of morals I'm posing, not right or wrong. I personally will defend the right for a citizen to own those, but I will not be personally pursuing my ownership of them.

I understand your viewpoint, but I equate it with asking why did blacks in the 60's need to sit in the front of the bus or drink the same fountain? They didn't, and we didnt question that, or question their motives or desire, we just realized that all men are created equal under our constitution. We respected their want because it was a guaranteed right to be equal and not be discriminated against because of the color of their skin.

When I see people discussing things such as "Guns increase violence" or "If it wasn't for guns murder rates would be no existant" things like that (Guns Can't Kill people)

I live in georgia and I own many weapons

Some include:
Mosin nagant, AK-47(Tactical Mod), SKS, Remington 870 magnum express, WW2 Mauser, Beretta Cx4, and a Beretta M9. (Not going to list all of them of course)

But i can set all these guns on a table, put loaded magazines next to them and sit with them pointed towards me at all times. I can ensure you they are not going to get up, load themselves and then shoot me and go on a killing spree. I could even assist it, by loading in the magazine, chambering a round, and taking the safety off, and it still wont be able to "shoot" me and kill me or go on a killing spree. Now if a person picked it up then yes it could. (and i wouldnt do this as im not stupid and handle all my guns if there loaded at all times) But its stupid, Ive seend Gun control advertisements talking about oh a gun killed my daughter, and if they were banned she would still be here today (This is a real commercial, its associated with the columbine shooting).

But I live near a city called Kennesaw, Georgia where by LAW every resident/Head of the house has to own a firearm with ammunition or they cannot live in that area. (unless under special conditions) Oh did i mention theres only been about 4-5 murders in the past 10 years (as stated by demographics ive seen.) Its crime rate is also %85-%90 lower than the state and nation average. (Oh did I mention also in the state of georgia if you have a permit you can take a handgun into any public place in the state including churches and schools.) But i think for a city where almost everyone owns a gun its not a suprise it has an extremly low murder rate.

Oh also chicago has a GUN BAN and yet has one of the highest gun violence rate in the country. Proof is in the statistics.

People say they're muscle are guns bro thats it no need for actual guns bro. Just Playing Man I Totally Agree With You I Get irritated. I Think of it like this. Without guns would we be free right now

I don't support them. Why? You don't NEED them. They are a want. Guns have killed more people than animals.

For self defense you don't need a gun.

Any kind of firearms or bombs are pointless in my opinion.


Want them for hunting? You don't need a fully automatic Assault Rifle to kill an animal.

They teach Mixed Martial Arts for a reason. Weapons are for "wimps" anyways and self defense by hand on hand combat is safer anyway.

Motioncorey wrote I don't support them. Why? You don't NEED them. They are a want. Guns have killed more people than animals.

For self defense you don't need a gun.

Any kind of firearms or bombs are pointless in my opinion.


Want them for hunting? You don't need a fully automatic Assault Rifle to kill an animal.

They teach Mixed Martial Arts for a reason. Weapons are for "wimps" anyways and self defense by hand on hand combat is safer anyway.

I'd like to see you say this when either someone robs you at gunpoint, or the government takes over by force, like Nazi Germany did. Let's see if you still don't support guns.

Miss wrote

Motioncorey wrote I don't support them. Why? You don't NEED them. They are a want. Guns have killed more people than animals.

For self defense you don't need a gun.

Any kind of firearms or bombs are pointless in my opinion.


Want them for hunting? You don't need a fully automatic Assault Rifle to kill an animal.

They teach Mixed Martial Arts for a reason. Weapons are for "wimps" anyways and self defense by hand on hand combat is safer anyway.

I'd like to see you say this when either someone robs you at gunpoint, or the government takes over by force, like Nazi Germany did. Let's see if you still don't support guns.

Martial Arts can teach you self defense, and weapon disarmament but in most cases involving guns its not going to help. "weapons are for wimps anyways" - Your hand is considered a weapon, "self defense by hand on hand combat is safer anyway." a criminal is Not going to fight you hand to hand either.

And If i do believe it is illegal to hunt with a Full-Automatic Assualt Rifle. I know you can hunt with a Semi-Automatic.

-"Guns have killed more people than animals." This is one of the most ignorant statements, and instead of arguing with it Ill just say this
-"Alcohol kills more people that most weapons"
-"Cars kill more than 30,000+ People a year"
-"Food causes more deaths than guns"
Theres more of these but heres and even more shocking one
-"Tobacco kills more than 480,000 People in the U.S alone every year"(including those who have never touched it before"
-Tobacco kills more people than animals ;)

But I guess maybe we should get rid of Alcohol, Cars, Food, Tobacco, ETC...

I understand your viewpoint, but I equate it with asking why did blacks in the 60's need to sit in the front of the bus or drink the same fountain? They didn't, and we didnt question that, or question their motives or desire, we just realized that all men are created equal under our constitution. We respected their want because it was a guaranteed right to be equal and not be discriminated against because of the color of their skin.

I'm sorry, what is the relevance of black people of the 1960's and furthermore the tangent of equality you are trying to sway in this debate against people with fire arms as oppose to black people and discrimination? Did I miss something or did you seriously just go off-topic with a whole other rant?

Where I am concerned with guns is not so much want/right but more so fact without the propaganda. I think this whole gun law came into effect when ignorant adolescent children think/thought it is okay to grab their parent's firearms and take them to school and unload on whomever.

I believe people should have the right to carry/bear (Disclosed of course) but parents should not be allowed to have a firearm with children in the house. I think that is the main focus of all of this drama brought on by the media, than everyone throwing in their two cents on a website dedicated to technology and video games assuming they know politics.