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wowsoMEW wrote But he has no idea, and neither do any of us! You can forecast the cost of setting up a business, but there is no algorithm in the world which will tell you how much money is needed to overthrow another business. You could throw 100 million at utter shite but it will still be utter shite. If he manages to revolutionise the way sports games are played, and the idea takes off, it may not cost as much as anticipated.

And in response to your "interview" scenario - actually if this were Dragon's Den or something to that end, which is ultimately the type of situation you'd have to undergo to set up a project involving ivestors' money - an idea wouldn't be enough to secure investment (especially the type of investment he would need to set up a company as major as he is aspiring to), you need facts and figures based on hard evidence, and for the most part - to already show a vague amount of success in your enterprise.

I agree that you need self-belief, conviction and that hunger to make something work - but this is just plain arrogance backed up with absolutely nothing bar a few meaningless timeframes and figures.


It's odd that many arrogant buisnessmen are hugely successful, I for one think he has a great plan and would love for him to succeed, especially if he gets his investment spot on


What? His plan is awful, and no plan would ever mean being above EA to be honest. PES have been trying to be the top dog for years and even with their assets they haven't really come that close.
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Senate wrote
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Senate wrote I don't understand why people are so sceptical. There is nothing like a desire to succeed, and I for one applaud your instinct.

Let me know if I can help in any marketing way possible further down the line, I am not a game designer haha


It is only fair to be skeptical when a single man (who probably just never packed anyone good) decides he's going to take down the biggest sports game in the market - without a team already in place and with no proof of his so called "assets". People who make it big start small..


Your telling me you'd post proof of everything on a tech site where the average age is 14? I sure wouldn't. And people who make it big don't necessarily start small. Look at Francis Boule for example, came from a family of means and now owns multiple businesses


That's the flaw in what you said right there Senate, if that's the case with the average age group, then why would he start here? On this game he is going to come up that will take FIFA down.

I personally think this is some troll or some guy who craves attention or is really high. Either or.


Incorrect, I wasn't flawed. An average age doesn't suggest every member is 14. It suggests an average

And @Fletcher, he shouldn't need to justify unless there are interested parties? Surely that is a more logical solution than a large group of teens attacking him for his idea cause he doesnt have relevant proof for them. If you are an interested party and wish to help him he'd be more than willing to show you everything you requested I assume


Okay, so if I made a thread claiming that I was going to be the next Cristiano Ronaldo without even showing that I can play football - you'd expect people to take me seriously? If you aren't going to show people that you aren't talking out of your arse, then you shouldn't be posting something like this without expecting people to call you crazy. I'm not saying this shouldn't be posted, as you have to find people to join you from somewhere. However, there is absolutely no argument to suggest that people shouldn't be skeptical.

and with Francis Boulle, I apologise, as I misread what you wrote - however, you are still failing to make a comparable link to this man's situation. Running a few businesses you bought with your families money is nothing like starting up a gaming company with the objective of immediately overthrowing EA...


He readily anticipates the concurrent costs and he already knows how long it'll take to get started. I think it's a great idea but I do not agree that he will initially beat any FIFA or Pes game. I already said I love the desire thus pulling me in.

This lad posting has an eager mind and money, and that can achieve many things. Oh, and as for the skeptics, would you have still questioned this if it was put on a job website? Would you have turned up for an interview asking for proof of money etc? Doubtful (that is not aimed at just you, but everyone, as this is essentially a job offer for the right person).


Exactly, like you said. It is the average age. You think it would be a better suite for him where people were actually capable of all of the above. Most people in this section come to talk about FIFA and football, not about Tech.
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A multi-millionaire trying to create a football game better than Fifa & PES, and he comes to a forum filled with kids to do this. :coffee: :coffee:
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Staggie wrote
Senate wrote
wowsoMEW wrote
Senate wrote
Staggie wrote
Senate wrote
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Senate wrote I don't understand why people are so sceptical. There is nothing like a desire to succeed, and I for one applaud your instinct.

Let me know if I can help in any marketing way possible further down the line, I am not a game designer haha


It is only fair to be skeptical when a single man (who probably just never packed anyone good) decides he's going to take down the biggest sports game in the market - without a team already in place and with no proof of his so called "assets". People who make it big start small..


Your telling me you'd post proof of everything on a tech site where the average age is 14? I sure wouldn't. And people who make it big don't necessarily start small. Look at Francis Boule for example, came from a family of means and now owns multiple businesses


That's the flaw in what you said right there Senate, if that's the case with the average age group, then why would he start here? On this game he is going to come up that will take FIFA down.

I personally think this is some troll or some guy who craves attention or is really high. Either or.


Incorrect, I wasn't flawed. An average age doesn't suggest every member is 14. It suggests an average

And @Fletcher, he shouldn't need to justify unless there are interested parties? Surely that is a more logical solution than a large group of teens attacking him for his idea cause he doesnt have relevant proof for them. If you are an interested party and wish to help him he'd be more than willing to show you everything you requested I assume


Okay, so if I made a thread claiming that I was going to be the next Cristiano Ronaldo without even showing that I can play football - you'd expect people to take me seriously? If you aren't going to show people that you aren't talking out of your arse, then you shouldn't be posting something like this without expecting people to call you crazy. I'm not saying this shouldn't be posted, as you have to find people to join you from somewhere. However, there is absolutely no argument to suggest that people shouldn't be skeptical.

and with Francis Boulle, I apologise, as I misread what you wrote - however, you are still failing to make a comparable link to this man's situation. Running a few businesses you bought with your families money is nothing like starting up a gaming company with the objective of immediately overthrowing EA...


He readily anticipates the concurrent costs and he already knows how long it'll take to get started. I think it's a great idea but I do not agree that he will initially beat any FIFA or Pes game. I already said I love the desire thus pulling me in.

This lad posting has an eager mind and money, and that can achieve many things. Oh, and as for the skeptics, would you have still questioned this if it was put on a job website? Would you have turned up for an interview asking for proof of money etc? Doubtful (that is not aimed at just you, but everyone, as this is essentially a job offer for the right person).


Exactly, like you said. It is the average age. You think it would be a better suite for him where people were actually capable of all of the above. Most people in this section come to talk about FIFA and football, not about Tech.


Regardless of where it is posted it will attract attention, and there will be people on this forum capable of what the OP is suggesting
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You might be better posting this in the programming forum.
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Staggie wrote You have taken this too far mate. Sorry to say, but I seriously think this must be some sort of troll. You can not actually be serious?


I'm not joking. I'm 100% serious.
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Senate wrote I don't understand why people are so sceptical. There is nothing like a desire to succeed, and I for one applaud your instinct.

Let me know if I can help in any marketing way possible further down the line, I am not a game designer haha


I appreciate your support. Can you send me a message or an email with some more information about what you have in mind when you say "marketing"? I look forward to hearing from you.
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snipingwinner wrote I like the idea but if you want to get anywhere close to fifa from the point you're at now, 3 years is way too short.


I know that's what it may appear but I'm not a typical person.
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I like the ambition if this isn't a troll.
However a game like Fifa is thoroughly saturated as the "go to" for soccer games. No matter how good another game is it'll never take over Fifa. It's still the best game out there. And no matter how good another one is, it'll never take fifa's place. You're also going to need much more than the supposed "7 or 8 figures" you have.
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MacMiller wrote I like the ambition if this isn't a troll.
However a game like Fifa is thoroughly saturated as the "go to" for soccer games. No matter how good another game is it'll never take over Fifa. It's still the best game out there. And no matter how good another one is, it'll never take fifa's place. You're also going to need much more than the supposed "7 or 8 figures" you have.


No,I'm not a troll. As for your believe in Fifa being impossible to move from the top spot, the only reason why you could think that is because you aren't looking at the football simulation gaming niche critically which causes you to ignore important facts. You are speaking as a consumer instead of an entrepreneur. Apparently you just can't imagine a scenario in which Fifa would lose. I not only can but also have a pretty good idea how to make it happen. But no matter what, this is still a considerable undertaking and there is no way I can tackle it by myself. That's why I'm here (and on other forums and websites) looking for help.
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