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At the end of the day, some people will never face the facts. These mass school shootings will never stop if the laws do not change, knives are completely different as you will have to be skilled to used one and right next to the person. Idiotic replies like that i try to ignore but it comes down to pure stupidity.

I may not have a say in this as i do not live in the US but look at other countries, we all feel safe on the street but if i lived in the US? hell no i wouldn't.

The fact that 98% of people live within 10 miles of one is scary, all it takes is one psycho to cause mass death.

As i speak look at this, another that could've been prevented:
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At the end of the day, some people will never face the facts.

Why are you projecting?

You've completely ignored most of the points we've raised against you.

Explain why people won't go to the black market to buy guns.
Explain why the cartels in Mexico won't simply add guns to their list of exports into the US.
Explain why gang members will suddenly obey the law and not use guns.
Explain why most mass shootings take place in gun-free areas.
Explain why the vast majority of all gun death shootings in the US are self defence.

These are the things that you, as someone who cares so much about the lives lost by gun violence, need to answer.

You can't just ignore these things and go 'But deez lifes mater herp derp!'

We know that mass shootings happen too often in America, we differ on how to solve that issue.
But you guys just love to keep pointing out how many people are dying. We know.

Schoey wrote

USN wrote

0-60 wrote This is why guns should be banned in the US, as i say time and time again. But you'll never learn, and before someone says "we have them for defense"... please just don't.

Just please shut up, gun related deaths are only a mere fraction of deaths in the US. People like you always see things like this as a way of promoting your own agenda, like you said "I say time and time again". You're sad man.

Rest in peace to these college people, prayers go to their families. People are crazy

I hardly ever comment on shit like this but...
please, Using this to push an agenda? A gun was used to kill multiple people, shootings are the only reason you'd discuss gun control.

That is such a stupid comment.

Guns are stupid and should be banned the UK had a mass shooting in 1996 there's been one Mass Shooting since.

How many shooting's has there been in america this year alone?

Guns don't kill people, People with guns kill people so stop giving people guns.

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R.I.P to all that lost their lives. I can't imagine how their families are feeling.

Why didn't you reply directly to 0-60?
He was pushing an agenda too by commenting that guns should be banned.
But you agree with him so it makes sense that you wouldn't put him down for it.

It's OK to push an agenda as long as Schoey agrees with it.

The post was not directed towards you, i know you're ignorant in the wrong way and cannot be bothered to speak to you. But i will try to clear this up for you (Don't see the point as you will not agree!)

Explain why people won't go to the black market to buy guns. - The people who commit school shootings will not go on "the black market".

Explain why the cartels in Mexico won't simply add guns to their list of exports into the US. - Everyone has smugglers and it needs to be controlled, still the guns will not be for sale in shop and harder to get.

Explain why gang members will suddenly obey the law and not use guns. - Never said they wouldn't some gangs in the UK have guns even know they're illegal.

Explain why most mass shootings take place in gun-free areas. - People will always break rules/laws like that. The problem is not the whole of the US is a "gun-free" zone.

Explain why the vast majority of all gun death shootings in the US are self defense. - This whole "self defense" card you guys pull makes you sound like complete ****** if you need a gun for self defense and idiotic to think you need to kill someone in self defense. I do not carry a gun nor a knife as the average person in a country where most weapons are illegal will use their hands to solve a problem.

I do not study this stuff but i just know that they should be banned, there are NO valid reasons for the average civilian to carry a gun. Also you're making yourself sound like a complete idiot and will not be replying to you in the future as i know you're in the wrong.

The logic the people who say you can use a knife, quick fairly unreal but imo true example; in a game one use knife only and the other use a gun. Who will win? the gun will kill in one hit to the head, chest and wound you in other areas, not to mention you can shoot it at extreme distances.

The knife will also wound you but they will have to be right next to you! and no throwing knifes will not be a factor :facepalm:

Schoey wrote

USN wrote

0-60 wrote This is why guns should be banned in the US, as i say time and time again. But you'll never learn, and before someone says "we have them for defense"... please just don't.

Just please shut up, gun related deaths are only a mere fraction of deaths in the US. People like you always see things like this as a way of promoting your own agenda, like you said "I say time and time again". You're sad man.

Rest in peace to these college people, prayers go to their families. People are crazy

I hardly ever comment on shit like this but...
please, Using this to push an agenda? A gun was used to kill multiple people, shootings are the only reason you'd discuss gun control.

That is such a stupid comment.

Guns are stupid and should be banned the UK had a mass shooting in 1996 there's been one Mass Shooting since.

How many shooting's has there been in america this year alone?

Guns don't kill people, People with guns kill people so stop giving people guns.

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R.I.P to all that lost their lives. I can't imagine how their families are feeling.

In the past 20 or 30 years there has been 260 mass shooting 90 of which were in the U.S

0-60 wrote

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0-60 wrote

At the end of the day, some people will never face the facts. These mass school shootings will never stop if the laws do not change, knives are completely different as you will have to be skilled to used one and right next to the person. Idiotic replies like that i try to ignore but it comes down to pure stupidity.

I may not have a say in this as i do not live in the US but look at other countries, we all feel safe on the street but if i lived in the US? hell no i wouldn't.

The fact that 98% of people live within 10 miles of one is scary, all it takes is one psycho to cause mass death.

As i speak look at this, another that could've been prevented:
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At the end of the day, some people will never face the facts.

Why are you projecting?

You've completely ignored most of the points we've raised against you.

Explain why people won't go to the black market to buy guns.
Explain why the cartels in Mexico won't simply add guns to their list of exports into the US.
Explain why gang members will suddenly obey the law and not use guns.
Explain why most mass shootings take place in gun-free areas.
Explain why the vast majority of all gun death shootings in the US are self defence.

These are the things that you, as someone who cares so much about the lives lost by gun violence, need to answer.

You can't just ignore these things and go 'But deez lifes mater herp derp!'

We know that mass shootings happen too often in America, we differ on how to solve that issue.
But you guys just love to keep pointing out how many people are dying. We know.

The post was not directed towards you, i know you're ignorant in the wrong way and cannot be bothered to speak to you. But i will try to clear this up for you (Don't see the point as you will not agree!)

Explain why people won't go to the black market to buy guns. - The people who commit school shootings will not go on "the black market".

Explain why the cartels in Mexico won't simply add guns to their list of exports into the US. - Everyone has smugglers and it needs to be controlled, still the guns will not be for sale in shop and harder to get.

Explain why gang members will suddenly obey the law and not use guns. - Never said they wouldn't some gangs in the UK have guns even know they're illegal.

Explain why most mass shootings take place in gun-free areas. - People will always break rules/laws like that. The problem is not the whole of the US is a "gun-free" zone.

Explain why the vast majority of all gun death shootings in the US are self defense. - This whole "self defense" card you guys pull makes you sound like complete ****** if you need a gun for self defense and idiotic to think you need to kill someone in self defense. I do not carry a gun nor a knife as the average person in a country where most weapons are illegal will use their hands to solve a problem.

I do not study this stuff but i just know that they should be banned, there are NO valid reasons for the average civilian to carry a gun. Also you're making yourself sound like a complete idiot and will not be replying to you in the future as i know you're in the wrong.

The logic the people who say you can use a knife, quick fairly unreal but imo true example; in a game one use knife only and the other use a gun. Who will win? the gun will kill in one hit to the head, chest and wound you in other areas, not to mention you can shoot it at extreme distances.

The knife will also wound you but they will have to be right next to you! and no throwing knifes will not be a factor :facepalm:

Ugh. The knife thing was a joke. It's groups of men in China who go around stabbing people.
I thought you would have looked that up.

I would agree with you if you actually made good points.

Explain why people won't go to the black market to buy guns. - The people who commit school shootings will not go on "the black market".

... Are you serious right now?
'Explain why they won't' ... 'they just won't. Trust me, they won't, I know.'

What a compelling argument! My mind has been completely changed!

Explain why the cartels in Mexico won't simply add guns to their list of exports into the US. - Everyone has smugglers and it needs to be controlled, still the guns will not be for sale in shop and harder to get.

They are already hard for criminals to get because of the background checks currently in place.
This just means that there will be more guns in the country for criminals to get their hands on.

Explain why gang members will suddenly obey the law and not use guns. - Never said they wouldn't some gangs in the UK have guns even know they're illegal.

Explain why the vast majority of all gun death shootings in the US are self defense. - This whole "self defense" card you guys pull makes you sound like complete ****** if you need a gun for self defense and idiotic to think you need to kill someone in self defense. I do not carry a gun nor a knife as the average person in a country where most weapons are illegal will use their hands to solve a problem.

These two points are linked.
If you take guns away from the law abiding citizens that means that the criminals will have guns and law abiding citizens will not.
16,272 Murders were committed during 2008, 67% of those were with guns.
989,883 times in 2008, guns were used to defend someone during a violent crime.

If you take guns away, half of those times, at least, would have resulted in the person being victimized or killed because the criminal has a gun and they do not.
Self defence isn't some kind of joke argument which is easy to wave away.

Are you going to 'face the facts' and accept that? I doubt it.

Explain why most mass shootings take place in gun-free areas. - People will always break rules/laws like that. The problem is not the whole of the US is a "gun-free" zone.

If the whole of the US was a gun free zone there would be nobody to defend innocent people from the criminals who now have all the guns.
That is why most mass shootings right now take place in gun free zones.

I do not study this stuff but i just know that they should be banned, there are NO valid reasons for the average civilian to carry a gun. Also you're making yourself sound like a complete idiot and will not be replying to you in the future as i know you're in the wrong.

I don't care what you know. I care about what you can demonstrate to be true and what makes sense.

'I just know' is a horrific argument and isn't going to convince anybody.

"People like you always see things like this as a way of promoting your own agenda, like you said "I say time and time again". You're sad man. "

That is the reason I quoted more than just 0-60, why would I criticise him when he stated his opinion without directly insulting people.

He called 0-60 a sad man because he saw a problem and offered a solution? the same solution that has been thought of multiple times this year "I say this time and time again" however the person I also included into the quote got defensive offered no other solution and instead insulted 0-60 and anyone else that shares the same viewpoint.

I'm open to hear another solution that will help prevent mass shootings without banning guns if you can think of one but right now all I see from people that don't want guns banned are reasons why gun control "could" fail.

It is funny how nobody can agree. Let's just all come to a conclusion that there is an issue otherwise this stuff wouldn't be happening

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Schoey wrote

USN wrote

0-60 wrote This is why guns should be banned in the US, as i say time and time again. But you'll never learn, and before someone says "we have them for defense"... please just don't.

Just please shut up, gun related deaths are only a mere fraction of deaths in the US. People like you always see things like this as a way of promoting your own agenda, like you said "I say time and time again". You're sad man.

Rest in peace to these college people, prayers go to their families. People are crazy

I hardly ever comment on shit like this but...
please, Using this to push an agenda? A gun was used to kill multiple people, shootings are the only reason you'd discuss gun control.

That is such a stupid comment.

Guns are stupid and should be banned the UK had a mass shooting in 1996 there's been one Mass Shooting since.

How many shooting's has there been in america this year alone?

Guns don't kill people, People with guns kill people so stop giving people guns.

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R.I.P to all that lost their lives. I can't imagine how their families are feeling.

Why didn't you reply directly to 0-60?
He was pushing an agenda too by commenting that guns should be banned.
But you agree with him so it makes sense that you wouldn't put him down for it.

It's OK to push an agenda as long as Schoey agrees with it.

"People like you always see things like this as a way of promoting your own agenda, like you said "I say time and time again". You're sad man. "

That is the reason I quoted more than just 0-60, why would I criticise him when he stated his opinion without directly insulting people.

He called 0-60 a sad man because he saw a problem and offered a solution? the same solution that has been thought of multiple times this year "I say this time and time again" however the person I also included into the quote got defensive offered no other solution and instead insulted 0-60 and anyone else that shares the same viewpoint.

I'm open to hear another solution that will help prevent mass shootings without banning guns if you can think of one but right now all I see from people that don't want guns banned are reasons why gun control "could" fail.

I get what you're saying now, I didn't understand why you said, 'Using this to push an agenda?' My bad.

I've offered ways to solve this problem on this post, or at least reduce the gun murder rate in the US.
Offering reasons why it could fail and reasons why it could succeed is the whole point of this debate.

-Mio wrote It is funny how nobody can agree. Let's just all come to a conclusion that there is an issue otherwise this stuff wouldn't be happening.

If you read the posts on this topic, nobody on either side of the debate is saying that there is no problem.
We're just disagreeing on how to solve the problem.

That is disgusting, people actually encouraging him, fake or not. Low life cowards.

These shootings need to stop, what is wrong with these people taking innocent lives.
I am heartbroken.

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