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doot wroteBalor wrotedoot wrote Ok, that board has LED's so it must be better...
I wouldn't bother with an unlocked i5, just save a bit more and get a Xeon/locked i7. No point buying a 6600 over a 6500 if it is more expensive, they will perform virtually the same, and what is your obsession with geting a B150 board? Not much point when a board with the best Chipset is only £10 more...
I didnt say its better because the leds, its more suited to the OP's needs with being cheaper, u gave him an locked chip with a mobo thats really for unlocked chip. 6600 is better than the 6500 hence why they brought two diff cpu's out. why go with xeon or i7?
There is no point in spending more money on a 6600 for a miniscule increase in clock speed, they release several different ones for the exact reason of people buying the most expensive one because they don't realise that there is practically no difference..
You don't even know if OP has a case that will house an ATX motherobard, hence why I went with a cheaper, better mATX motherboard.
Just because a motherboard have a Z-series Chipset, doesn't mean it is 'really for an unlocked chip'. It will be perfectly fine without one, with additional features, and later down the line OP could put in an unlocked chip and OC it fine.
A Xeon/i7 would be better due to Hyperthreading, which is proving to be of much more importance in newer, demanding games.
Just because you have a 6600 and that flashy LED motherboard, doesn't mean it is better than any other. The only reason I can see people getting it is because they care about trashy LED's more than performance.
What are these additional features that would make someone choose a z170 board over a standard b150 board (when they have a LOCKED cpu). I recommended those because they are great components, and the leds dont really matter to me as im getting a hue+ (trashy huh ;) )im just saying they are nice to look at, gives off the same performance as any other b150 board so shouldnt be a problem
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Balor wrotedoot wroteBalor wrotedoot wrote Ok, that board has LED's so it must be better...
I wouldn't bother with an unlocked i5, just save a bit more and get a Xeon/locked i7. No point buying a 6600 over a 6500 if it is more expensive, they will perform virtually the same, and what is your obsession with geting a B150 board? Not much point when a board with the best Chipset is only £10 more...
I didnt say its better because the leds, its more suited to the OP's needs with being cheaper, u gave him an locked chip with a mobo thats really for unlocked chip. 6600 is better than the 6500 hence why they brought two diff cpu's out. why go with xeon or i7?
There is no point in spending more money on a 6600 for a miniscule increase in clock speed, they release several different ones for the exact reason of people buying the most expensive one because they don't realise that there is practically no difference..
You don't even know if OP has a case that will house an ATX motherobard, hence why I went with a cheaper, better mATX motherboard.
Just because a motherboard have a Z-series Chipset, doesn't mean it is 'really for an unlocked chip'. It will be perfectly fine without one, with additional features, and later down the line OP could put in an unlocked chip and OC it fine.
A Xeon/i7 would be better due to Hyperthreading, which is proving to be of much more importance in newer, demanding games.
Just because you have a 6600 and that flashy LED motherboard, doesn't mean it is better than any other. The only reason I can see people getting it is because they care about trashy LED's more than performance.
What are these additional features that would make someone choose a z170 board over a standard b150 board (when they have a LOCKED cpu). I recommended those because they are great components, and the leds dont really matter to me as im getting a hue+ (trashy huh ;) )im just saying they are nice to look at, gives off the same performance as any other b150 board so shouldnt be a problem
More USB 3.0 and 2.0 ports, more PCIe lanes, more SATA ports, M.2 socket (B150 have NONE), supports overclocking for future possibility on a CHEAPER motherboard that will definitely fit in his case whereas that ATX motherboard may not. Once again, no point in getting 6600 over 6500 as it is more expensive for no performance increase. If you buy a lower end board over a higher end one because it has LED's and because the higher end one is 'made for overclocking' even though it is cheaper, then you are an idiot.
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Balor wrote being cheaper
It's not cheaper though, it's £5 more expensive with the same features, but a poorer chipset. LEDs are not a feature.
However, since OP's budget is Kronor, and not GBP, I'd be using a site like Kompett.se for any suggestions. We don't have enough information anyway.
OP- Why specifically Skylake? You could grab a 4460, nice LGA1150 motherboard and be set, but if you go with Skylake, it's going to be a bit more expensive, and you'll have to buy new RAM on top of that. Are you going to overclock, or not? A locked chip is going to be no use if you're looking to overclock. Also, what case do you have? What specific PSU do you have, as it may be worth upgrading if it's poor quality.
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Sanctorum wroteBalor wrote being cheaper
It's not cheaper though, it's £5 more expensive with the same features, but a poorer chipset. LEDs are not a feature.
However, since OP's budget is Kronor, and not GBP, I'd be using a site like Kompett.se for any suggestions. We don't have enough information anyway.
OP- Why specifically Skylake? You could grab a 4460, nice LGA1150 motherboard and be set, but if you go with Skylake, it's going to be a bit more expensive, and you'll have to buy new RAM on top of that. Are you going to overclock, or not? A locked chip is going to be no use if you're looking to overclock. Also, what case do you have? What specific PSU do you have, as it may be worth upgrading if it's poor quality.
I was using it as an example, b150 boards are typically cheaper than z170 boards, we have no idea what the OP needs, so lga might be the way to go tbh
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doot wroteBalor wrotedoot wroteBalor wrotedoot wrote Ok, that board has LED's so it must be better...
I wouldn't bother with an unlocked i5, just save a bit more and get a Xeon/locked i7. No point buying a 6600 over a 6500 if it is more expensive, they will perform virtually the same, and what is your obsession with geting a B150 board? Not much point when a board with the best Chipset is only £10 more...
I didnt say its better because the leds, its more suited to the OP's needs with being cheaper, u gave him an locked chip with a mobo thats really for unlocked chip. 6600 is better than the 6500 hence why they brought two diff cpu's out. why go with xeon or i7?
There is no point in spending more money on a 6600 for a miniscule increase in clock speed, they release several different ones for the exact reason of people buying the most expensive one because they don't realise that there is practically no difference..
You don't even know if OP has a case that will house an ATX motherobard, hence why I went with a cheaper, better mATX motherboard.
Just because a motherboard have a Z-series Chipset, doesn't mean it is 'really for an unlocked chip'. It will be perfectly fine without one, with additional features, and later down the line OP could put in an unlocked chip and OC it fine.
A Xeon/i7 would be better due to Hyperthreading, which is proving to be of much more importance in newer, demanding games.
Just because you have a 6600 and that flashy LED motherboard, doesn't mean it is better than any other. The only reason I can see people getting it is because they care about trashy LED's more than performance.
What are these additional features that would make someone choose a z170 board over a standard b150 board (when they have a LOCKED cpu). I recommended those because they are great components, and the leds dont really matter to me as im getting a hue+ (trashy huh ;) )im just saying they are nice to look at, gives off the same performance as any other b150 board so shouldnt be a problem
More USB 3.0 and 2.0 ports, more PCIe lanes, more SATA ports, M.2 socket (B150 have NONE), supports overclocking for future possibility on a CHEAPER motherboard that will definitely fit in his case whereas that ATX motherboard may not. Once again, no point in getting 6600 over 6500 as it is more expensive for no performance increase. If you buy a lower end board over a higher end one because it has LED's and because the higher end one is 'made for overclocking' even though it is cheaper, then you are an idiot.
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Balor wrote I was using it as an example, b150 boards are typically cheaper than z170 boards, i agree that lga1150 would be the best option too.
Yet the B150 motherboard you specifically mentioned, and then suggested is more expensive than the H170 and Z170 motherboards linked before, that have the same features(if not, more), are cheaper, and are just better chipsets completely. Sure, if aesthetics is an issue for OP, maybe the B150A Gaming Pro would make sense, but you can't just assume, we don't know if OP even has a case with a side window, how useless are those LEDs going to be in a closed case with no window, hm? Or what if OP's colour scheme is black/blue, or black/white, and you're suggesting a black/red motherboard?
Balor wrote i got it because i have a locked chip and am never going to overclock in the future
This thread isn't about you though. That's all fine and well if you've bought that motherboard and like it. I'd personally take the Z170A Gaming Pro if I was going with Skylake, as I like the aesthetics of that(and the B150A Gaming Pro) since they match my colour scheme, but just because it makes sense for you, doesn't mean it does for other people. Also, just because you have a locked chip, doesn't necessarily mean you have to lock yourself in to a lower end chipset, it's not like a H170/Z170 motherboard is going to be a hindrance, just because you're not going to overclock.
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Sanctorum wroteBalor wrote I was using it as an example, b150 boards are typically cheaper than z170 boards, i agree that lga1150 would be the best option too.
Yet the B150 motherboard you specifically mentioned, and then suggested is more expensive than the H170 and Z170 motherboards linked before, that have the same features(if not, more), are cheaper, and are just better chipsets completely. Sure, if aesthetics is an issue for OP, maybe the B150A Gaming Pro would make sense, but you can't just assume, we don't know if OP even has a case with a side window, how useless are those LEDs going to be in a closed case with no window, hm? Or what if OP's colour scheme is black/blue, or black/white, and you're suggesting a black/red motherboard?
As i said i was using it as an example and you know it. You know what i meant Sanct so please dont act smart, motherboard has CUSTOMISABLE leds so if the OP has a blue and black colour scheme he can change the lights blue I was just assuming OP liked aesthetics ( ohhh what a mistake huh ? PUT THAT MAN TO DEATH!!!!!)
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Sanctorum wroteBalor wrote I was using it as an example, b150 boards are typically cheaper than z170 boards, i agree that lga1150 would be the best option too.
Yet the B150 motherboard you specifically mentioned, and then suggested is more expensive than the H170 and Z170 motherboards linked before, that have the same features(if not, more), are cheaper, and are just better chipsets completely. Sure, if aesthetics is an issue for OP, maybe the B150A Gaming Pro would make sense, but you can't just assume, we don't know if OP even has a case with a side window, how useless are those LEDs going to be in a closed case with no window, hm? Or what if OP's colour scheme is black/blue, or black/white, and you're suggesting a black/red motherboard?
Balor wrote i got it because i have a locked chip and am never going to overclock in the future
This thread isn't about you though. That's all fine and well if you've bought that motherboard and like it. I'd personally take the Z170A Gaming Pro if I was going with Skylake, as I like the aesthetics of that(and the B150A Gaming Pro) since they match my colour scheme, but just because it makes sense for you, doesn't mean it does for other people. Also, just because you have a locked chip, doesn't necessarily mean you have to lock yourself in to a lower end chipset, it's not like a H170/Z170 motherboard is going to be a hindrance, just because you're not going to overclock.
You can clearly see that doot said if i got it because of leds. i was responding to that claim. HENCE why i said i got it because i have a locked chip
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Balor wrote As i said i was using it as an example and you know it. You know what i meant Sanct so please dont act smart, motherboard has CUSTOMISABLE leds so if the OP has a blue and black colour scheme he can change the lights blue I was just assuming OP liked aesthetics ( ohhh what a mistake huh ? PUT THAT MAN TO DEATH!!!!!)
If you were using at as an example, don't then link a PCPP list with that motherboard in it, as your suggestion to OP. Don't get rude now, there's no need and you'll just be ignored if you become hostile. The LEDs may be RGB, but the motherboard has red accents on it, which will definitely look out of place in a strictly black/white rig, or whatever other colour. So even if he were to change the LEDs to white, or blue, or whatever his colour scheme is, then he still has to deal with the red accents on the motherboard which will look ridiculously out of place. Again, if he has a case with no side window, motherboard LEDs are irrelevant.
"I was just assuming OP liked aesthetics"
Maybe he doesn't care, don't make assumptions. Maybe he does like his rig to be aesthetically pleasing though, that doesn'd then mean the B150A Gaming Pro is aesthetically pleasing to him. You just recommended a poorer motherboard, that cost more simply because you like the way it looks.
Balor wrote You can clearly see that doot said if i got it because of leds. i was responding to that claim. HENCE why i said i got it because i have a locked chip
Yes, that's why I specifically said that it's fine if the motherboard suits you, that doesn't then mean it will work for OP. Also, your opening point on this thread was that Z170 motherboards are pointless if you have a locked chip, so I was replying to that but using your most recent quote, related to that subject, I was sure you'd understand that since you're so good with context. ))
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not being rude sanct, LOVEEEE YOU now can we be done with this or does anyone wanna keep it going? xD
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