Fractulz wrote ^ But, what if god is sitting up there saying, "He has gone through too much, its time to come home." And makes the person suicide? Wouldn't that be the plan?

Jesus says "I never said it would be easy; I only said it would be worth it"
(Matthew 11:30)

iWorkForXbox wrote Hell doesn't exist for starters and don't listen to Christians, there to busy with their heads up their **** to think

And Sorry for your friend

Yeah because you would know that hell doesn't exist.

May your friend rest in peace <3

I'm just going to say that there are a lot of closed f*cking minded Christians out there. They don't give a crap about what you think. You just asked what if God chose that plan for them. That's a pretty good question. A die-hard Christian would reply saying no, it's a sin and they're going to hell bla bla. Hell itself is a debatable topic so that's not even a good answer.

Just note that in no way am I against Christians, I believe in God, and believe in Heaven/Hell/Afterlife in different ways. I only have a problem with the closed minded Christians who can't debate a question and just say that they are right. THEY should go to Hell for not understanding what 'victims' of suicide go through to even want to take their own lives. The real sins are not committed by them, but towards them. At least show some respect

And again, sorry for your friend man.

DinoFX wrote I'm sorry to hear about your friend but I'm a Christian and I believe suicide is a sin

So is masturbating but we all do it...

iWorkForXbox wrote Hell doesn't exist for starters and don't listen to Christians, there to busy with their heads up their **** to think

And Sorry for your friend

I dont understand why people like you have to hate on other people for being religious. I have nothing against atheists but I just hate it when you have to go off saying other peoples faith is stupid and the people that believe are stupid.

Im a catholic and I respect what atheists believe, along with Judists, Confucianists, Muslims, etc. (I think I spelled those wrong but w/e).

So yeah... rant inside a rant. Sorry for getting a little off topic

aNaughtyCuban wrote

iWorkForXbox wrote Hell doesn't exist for starters and don't listen to Christians, there to busy with their heads up their **** to think

And Sorry for your friend

I dont understand why people like you have to hate on other people for being religious. I have nothing against atheists but I just hate it when you have to go off saying other peoples faith is stupid and the people that believe are stupid.

Im a catholic and I respect what atheists believe, along with Judists, Confucianists, Muslims, etc. (I think I spelled those wrong but w/e).

So yeah... rant inside a rant. Sorry for getting a little off topic

Thank god I'm an Athiest.

aNaughtyCuban wrote

iWorkForXbox wrote Hell doesn't exist for starters and don't listen to Christians, there to busy with their heads up their **** to think

And Sorry for your friend

I dont understand why people like you have to hate on other people for being religious. I have nothing against atheists but I just hate it when you have to go off saying other peoples faith is stupid and the people that believe are stupid.

Im a catholic and I respect what atheists believe, along with Judists, Confucianists, Muslims, etc. (I think I spelled those wrong but w/e).

So yeah... rant inside a rant. Sorry for getting a little off topic

First of all, where in that quote do you see that he called you (in general, not you specifically) or your faith, stupid? It could be argued that it's pretty stupid to believe in a "little man that lives in the sky, and watches/hears everything that you do/say.", but thats a topic for a different thread. Secondly, the guy is right. Most "christioans" do have their heads up their *****. They try to force their beliefs on everyone around them, and tell you that you are a sinner and are going to "Hell" if you dont believe.

Lets take a look at a little phrase that comes right out of your Bible... "Judge not, lest ye be judged yourself". Who among us is so perfect as to be able to pass said judgement and tell someone that they are going to Hell for anything??? People need to wake up and worry about their own lives and problems and leave everyone else the **** alone!

Lastly, I had a very dear friends only son take his life just a few short weeks ago, and I am truly sorry for your loss.

Malachai6669 wrote

aNaughtyCuban wrote

iWorkForXbox wrote Hell doesn't exist for starters and don't listen to Christians, there to busy with their heads up their **** to think

And Sorry for your friend

I dont understand why people like you have to hate on other people for being religious. I have nothing against atheists but I just hate it when you have to go off saying other peoples faith is stupid and the people that believe are stupid.

Im a catholic and I respect what atheists believe, along with Judists, Confucianists, Muslims, etc. (I think I spelled those wrong but w/e).

So yeah... rant inside a rant. Sorry for getting a little off topic

First of all, where in that quote do you see that he called you (in general, not you specifically) or your faith, stupid? It could be argued that it's pretty stupid to believe in a "little man that lives in the sky, and watches/hears everything that you do/say.", but thats a topic for a different thread. Secondly, the guy is right. Most "christioans" do have their heads up their *****. They try to force their beliefs on everyone around them, and tell you that you are a sinner and are going to "Hell" if you dont believe.

Lets take a look at a little phrase that comes right out of your Bible... "Judge not, lest ye be judged yourself". Who among us is so perfect as to be able to pass said judgement and tell someone that they are going to Hell for anything??? People need to wake up and worry about their own lives and problems and leave everyone else the **** alone!

Lastly, I had a very dear friends only son take his life just a few short weeks ago, and I am truly sorry for your loss.

I wasn't talking about him specifically and maye stupid wasn't the right word. And I'm not trying to force my beliefs on anyone. My point was people dont need to go around judging people for what they believe in.

I don't understand how people can take their own life. Life is to precious it is the biggest blessing that you have and then when someone decides to just take their life that is not right. You should appreciate that you are living and breathing no one should be ever brought down to the point where your thought even consider suicide, God gave you life and you decide to take it away he gave you a chance to live and life, a life to experience the beauty of being a human and being ALIVE! That is disgraceful no one should ever commit suicide.

iWorkForXbox wrote Hell doesn't exist for starters and don't listen to Christians, there to busy with their heads up their **** to think

And Sorry for your friend

Wow double digits for unuseful post, first time i've ever seen that anyway on topic:

Look at it this way believe what you want to believe, if god has a plan that means for someone to die by suicide obviously has to be part of his so called "plan"

And i also could go into a debate about hippocracy, god gives us free will. Suicide is free will, i do not believe suicide is a sin i believe the people that made the person commit suicide are the sinners

nuff?