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#191. Posted:
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661King wrote
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661King wrote
Chiellini wrote
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Chiellini wrote
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Once again, I'll refer you back to my previous post. In Britain, the last mass shooting at a school was 40 years ago. We haven't had one since we put a ban in place afterwards. Yes, there's always going to be psychotic murderers out there, but, I'd feel much safer if I knew those phycho's didn't have a gun in their hand (which I do feel safe because I know they can't go to the nearest store and pick up an assault rifle).

Point is, you Americans can sit back and just watch these mass shootings of innocent kids go on and at the end of the day, all you care about are your guns. I mean, how many more shootings of presidents or innocent people will it take before you ban them?


What good is that doing for you guys. Sitting back and watching kids die? And it isnt easy just to get rid of guns, there would be so much more problems.


Ugh, why can't you ignorant people comprehend that if there were no guns, you wouldn't need guns to protect yourselves. Yes, it'll be difficult, but surely that's better in the long run?

What about all the guns that people already own? You think the military is going to rush into millions of peoples homes and find every gun and destroy it? Just the thought scares me. The riots and protests would be insane.. No need to call us ignorant when we are just debating. :facepalm:


I have no idea how the American government would handle banning guns. But they should do it. Blah blah blah it's against my rights. What about those kids who were shot innocently? They HAD rights, and now, because some crazy kid was able to buy a gun at a store, took away their rights.

Okay, I'm going to give you a hypothetical question, say one of your parents, or close relatives was shot dead for NO reason, would you be or against guns? Give me an honest answer.


Yea um I know for a fact a KID did not just walk up into a gun store and buy a gun. He got it from someone. And yea that kind of stuff happens, and I would be pretty upset but we can't just go out and ban every single gun. People die from illegal and legal drugs too, so how do we go about stopping that? All I know is changing the Constitution would make Americans furious. Why don't we just go back to school security, since so many killings are happening at schools now?


Actually, gun show loopholes. You can literally walk up to a guy at a gun show and buy 10 AR-15s without background checks, a drivers license, or proof of residency. All you have to do is show him the money. If drugs were legalized and regulated, there would be less ODs. Patriot Act and NDAA got rid of our 1st amendment. Americans didn't care. So our schools should be more like third world countries? Where your kids can get shot for being kids.


After reading doing a google search about gun show loopholes, I found that regulated gun shows require background checks for gun purchases. You can buy guns illegally from alot of places though. It's the same with any other illegal thing in the U.S.
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Yahoo answers is opinionated. The other site isnt really credible since its a sub domain.

All you have to do is go up to a person selling from his "private collection" and buy the guns. You do not have to have a license to sell your guns at a gun show(in most areas).

NOTE: I have looked for the specific clip about the Vangaurd documantery and only found this clip. I do NOT always share views with current and the young turks.

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People would buy AR-15s illegally if gun bans were placed on them. Some things you just can't stop. Gun bans = enraged Americans who want their 2nd Amendment, no protection for people that were actually responsible with their guns before the ban, and an advantage to bad people that buy guns illegally.


Why would a law abiding citizen break the law and buy an AR-15 if its illegal? Then they would become criminals. Even if Americans get enraged, they wont do anything. Proof: NDAA, Patriot Act, Backdoor bailouts, etc. You can still protect yourself with a hand gun or a shot gun. If bad people had to go through a background check and mental health check, im pretty sure the wont pass. Also, 40% of guns sold are bought using the loophole. If you got rid of the loophole and be required to run background checks less criminals would get guns.

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Law abiding citizens want protection. If all guns were banned, you would have to get them illegally, not just AR-15s. Are you against people having guns at all? I can't tell what side you are on because you keep talking about how easy it is to get a gun, which is not the topic.
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Chiellini wrote
661King wrote
Chiellini wrote
661King wrote
Chiellini wrote
661King wrote
Chiellini wrote
Pyre wrote
Chiellini wrote
Pyre wrote
ExoticWolfs wrote
Once again, I'll refer you back to my previous post. In Britain, the last mass shooting at a school was 40 years ago. We haven't had one since we put a ban in place afterwards. Yes, there's always going to be psychotic murderers out there, but, I'd feel much safer if I knew those phycho's didn't have a gun in their hand (which I do feel safe because I know they can't go to the nearest store and pick up an assault rifle).

Point is, you Americans can sit back and just watch these mass shootings of innocent kids go on and at the end of the day, all you care about are your guns. I mean, how many more shootings of presidents or innocent people will it take before you ban them?


What good is that doing for you guys. Sitting back and watching kids die? And it isnt easy just to get rid of guns, there would be so much more problems.


Ugh, why can't you ignorant people comprehend that if there were no guns, you wouldn't need guns to protect yourselves. Yes, it'll be difficult, but surely that's better in the long run?

What about all the guns that people already own? You think the military is going to rush into millions of peoples homes and find every gun and destroy it? Just the thought scares me. The riots and protests would be insane.. No need to call us ignorant when we are just debating. :facepalm:


I have no idea how the American government would handle banning guns. But they should do it. Blah blah blah it's against my rights. What about those kids who were shot innocently? They HAD rights, and now, because some crazy kid was able to buy a gun at a store, took away their rights.

Okay, I'm going to give you a hypothetical question, say one of your parents, or close relatives was shot dead for NO reason, would you be or against guns? Give me an honest answer.


Yea um I know for a fact a KID did not just walk up into a gun store and buy a gun. He got it from someone. And yea that kind of stuff happens, and I would be pretty upset but we can't just go out and ban every single gun. People die from illegal and legal drugs too, so how do we go about stopping that? All I know is changing the Constitution would make Americans furious. Why don't we just go back to school security, since so many killings are happening at schools now?


Actually, gun show loopholes. You can literally walk up to a guy at a gun show and buy 10 AR-15s without background checks, a drivers license, or proof of residency. All you have to do is show him the money. If drugs were legalized and regulated, there would be less ODs. Patriot Act and NDAA got rid of our 1st amendment. Americans didn't care. So our schools should be more like third world countries? Where your kids can get shot for being kids.


After reading doing a google search about gun show loopholes, I found that regulated gun shows require background checks for gun purchases. You can buy guns illegally from alot of places though. It's the same with any other illegal thing in the U.S.
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Yahoo answers is opinionated. The other site isnt really credible since its a sub domain.

All you have to do is go up to a person selling from his "private collection" and buy the guns. You do not have to have a license to sell your guns at a gun show(in most areas).

NOTE: I have looked for the specific clip about the Vangaurd documantery and only found this clip. I do NOT always share views with current and the young turks.

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People would buy AR-15s illegally if gun bans were placed on them. Some things you just can't stop. Gun bans = enraged Americans who want their 2nd Amendment, no protection for people that were actually responsible with their guns before the ban, and an advantage to bad people that buy guns illegally.


Why would a law abiding citizen break the law and buy an AR-15 if its illegal? Then they would become criminals. Even if Americans get enraged, they wont do anything. Proof: NDAA, Patriot Act, Backdoor bailouts, etc. You can still protect yourself with a hand gun or a shot gun. If bad people had to go through a background check and mental health check, im pretty sure the wont pass. Also, 40% of guns sold are bought using the loophole. If you got rid of the loophole and be required to run background checks less criminals would get guns.

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Law abiding citizens want protection. If all guns were banned, you would have to get them illegally, not just AR-15s. Are you against people having guns at all? I can't tell what side you are on because you keep talking about how easy it is to get a gun, which is not the topic.
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Only in America............
#194. Posted:
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Our society is so screwed up. Imagine our future generations..
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Reasons liek this is why obama i trying to get gun control.
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There's a reason why here in UK we dont sell guns. Just sayin
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Guns don't kill people, People kill people .. I hear this alot when it comes to the defence of the gun and yes in a sense it is true but at the same time the gun is a tool that was designed to do one thing "KILL" .

Now before another flame war begins i would like to say that i for one have quite alot of respect for Americans (lol ok for most of them) and on the whole i find alot of them to be free thinking individuals who are able to take as much criticism as they give, Please don't prove me wrong !.

You have to admit something needs to change, If you (America) stay as you are not only will you continue loose alot of young people in horrible ways but you will also create a reputation of being hypercritical and self indulgent.
So what is the awnser ??.
Do you really want to live in a country where it's not safe enough to go to school without a gun for protection ?.
Would you all really be happier if every time you walked into places like schools you had to be searched for weapons ?.
Maybe they could force all school children to wear a uniform which would include a bullet proof vest.
Wow ,Is this really the land of the free that im talking about here or is it now the land of fear ?.

The second amendment has been in use since 1791 and for the time it was written it made good sense BUT times have changed alot and your amendments like it or not are now out dated and needs to be re written for the modern age.
Instead of bickering with eachother why not step up to the plate and be open and honest with eachother ,Change may not be popular but it is inevitable so what sensible concessions would you be willing to take when it comes to the gun and how do you think that would help ?.
It would be good to see you (Americans) being constructive rather than you lot just sticking to your guns (lol .. sorry couldn't resist).


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#198. Posted:
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I was the second post on this and so many people replied with stupid comments, lets be honset if you stopped people buying a gun when they want you would have alot less deaths, go look at the death counts of guns, the only ones that are extremly high rates of gun crime are the ones who make it legal.
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Of course it is in the States as well.
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Really, a 14 Year old, what kind of Jimmys are doing this sorta stuff, nothing happens like that over here we just get stabbings but we cant ban that becasue its cutlery for a kitchen but a guns not, america need to ban guns and BTW Wrong Section...

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