Ripe wrote Oh my god (poor word choice), the second pic you have was my old account name. I used to be -Destined-, that's crazy.

Thats insane! Haha, I remember you from before I came back a week ago (: Nice to see you again Destined

Sith wrote

I believe God was a way to explain something that could not be explained at the time, and has been taken too far.

This is a great statement.

I am atheist.

I could spend hours writing down points as to why I am atheist but I have done it so many times in the past on this forum that I just don't see the point really.

This post will be closed and everyone will move on with the same opinions as they had when they clicked on it.

I know what you mean, I've defended my thoughts on religion using this site on several different circumstances. It never does anything but I feel its my right and duty to defend my thoughts just as others defend theirs or even use them as attacks against their unlike-minded enemy.

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Hall wrote Religion is a way of thinking. Its fine and dandy if you believe it, just don't TELL people that its true. To me, religion is the dumbest thing I've ever heard. Its just something to fight over and debate. If God is so great and all powerful, how about he fixes the issues in this world? If he can apparently develop a whole world, why can't he fix the issues with it. Don't tell me "he is busy" or anything like that, it is said that he created the world basically instantly, if he can do that he can make a few quick fixes also. You believe in Christianity I'm guessing, and Jews believe in Judaism, and Muslims believe in Islam, and Buddhists believe in Buddhism, and Hindus believe in Hinduism, who is to say just one of those is right? And those aren't the only ones. How can so many religions exist? Because its controversial, it is uncertain, NO ONE KNOWS. Have you met God? Have you met Jesus? If you have you might've dreamt it, just as a child would dream of meeting their favorite celebrity. The point is, no religion has substantial proof, so don't say its true, because technically, non of it is. You can say you Believe in it, just don't push it onto others, they'll believe if they want to believe. I personally am atheist, if you couldn't tell by now, and I doubt many of you who saw this long paragraph even read it. I hear stuff all the time about religion this and religion that. You really notice how much religion is put into our lives once you rid yourself of it, its just more and more propaganda. Things happen sometimes that people can't explain, something like the creation of the universe and everything we know is one of those things. I believe God was a way to explain something that could not be explained at the time, and has been taken too far. (My opinion)

Leave a Reply on what you think, and again, don't post stupid things like "You're WRONG!" or "God is good" post a reasonable argument, anything else makes you look stupid. Please respect others and their views also. Thank you.

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I love how you say don't tell people that god is real but yet you saying there is no such thing as god and have no proof that he doesn't exist. And this is why i am an agnostic plan and simple.

The whole post is in first person, I'm giving my opinion, the title of the topic is Your Thoughts On Religion? (My View)

I posted this a while back on an old topic but It relates to this and explains briefly my reasons for being an atheist;

Old Earth creationism requires you to believe that for thousands of epochs, over which 99% of all species have become extinct and that the human race dwindling down to around 40,000 in Africa, on the brink of extinction, all of this extinction, death and complete randomness is the will of a being.

You have to believe that all of that was done so that you could sit here on your computer reading this, as a very imperfect race.

Looking to the future, creationism requires you to believe that the Universe, in all of its scale and magnitude of grandness was created for this one, small race.

You are to believe that everything has a pattern in the Universe and that everything follows a path.
However, when we look at the Universe that could not be more wrong.
We can see the random deaths of stars, the destruction of solar systems and galaxies, the formation of super massive black holes and you can even see the future death of our very own solar system;
The Andromeda galaxy is on a collision course with our own.
You have to believe that all of this randomness and destruction is part of a plan.

You have to believe that the whole natural order is literally perfect in its grandeur because it was made by a perfect deity, and yet it is still suspended in the form of miracles, which improve upon perfect.

You have to believe that a God watched the Earth for 98,000 years of suffering and death and then, around 2,000 years ago, he decides to have his son sent to Earth in one of the most illiterate parts of the world, in a desert civilization, in order for him to be sacrificed to absolve us of our sins.

Creationism and a belief in creationism, was our first attempt at everything.

It was our first attempt in explaining why the sun goes up and comes down, why people got ill and others didn't, why natural disasters occurred and it explained one of the biggest mysteries that we have, death and what comes after.

It deserves credit, but it is time to pass the mantle.

Sith wrote I posted this a while back on an old topic but It relates to this and explains briefly my reasons for being an atheist;

Old Earth creationism requires you to believe that for thousands of epochs, over which 99% of all species have become extinct and that the human race dwindling down to around 40,000 in Africa, on the brink of extinction, all of this extinction, death and complete randomness is the will of a being.

You have to believe that all of that was done so that you could sit here on your computer reading this, as a very imperfect race.

Looking to the future, creationism requires you to believe that the Universe, in all of its scale and magnitude of grandness was created for this one, small race.

You are to believe that everything has a pattern in the Universe and that everything follows a path.
However, when we look at the Universe that could not be more wrong.
We can see the random deaths of stars, the destruction of solar systems and galaxies, the formation of super massive black holes and you can even see the future death of our very own solar system;
The Andromeda galaxy is on a collision course with our own.
You have to believe that all of this randomness and destruction is part of a plan.

You have to believe that the whole natural order is literally perfect in its grandeur because it was made by a perfect deity, and yet it is still suspended in the form of miracles, which improve upon perfect.

You have to believe that a God watched the Earth for 98,000 years of suffering and death and then, around 2,000 years ago, he decides to have his son sent to Earth in one of the most illiterate parts of the world, in a desert civilization, in order for him to be sacrificed to absolve us of our sins.

Creationism and a belief in creationism, was our first attempt at everything.

It was our first attempt in explaining why the sun goes up and comes down, why people got ill and others didn't, why natural disasters occurred and it explained one of the biggest mysteries that we have, death and what comes after.

It deserves credit, but it is time to pass the mantle.

Dude, you worded that perfectly. Good addition to the posts, ill put whatever you want in the topic, give you credit, anything in particular that you want added? I need the great Sith's words to reinforce the ideas in the original topic post haha

I'm Agnostic. As someone else already said, I've explained it multiple times why and backed myself up. There simply isn't a point to repost everything, so here is a small bit of it.

-I believe that while there isn't enough evidence to support a god, there isn't enough evidence to disprove one either. Honestly, it's because of how God was created. A perfect being that is all knowing and can't be seen. It's just something that can never been proven wrong, until your dead. But at that point it really won't matter.

-To believe everything in this world happened of it's own accord is amazing. The universe is perfect, everything has it's place. It's plausible that some sort of intelligent being shaped the universe to become how it is, but it's just as plausible as just about every other possibility.

-I just believe that organized religion is horrible. I have no issue with people who want to believe that a god is real, but when you create groups of followers based on a small difference and tell each other you're wrong when your religion is practically the same, it's ignorance.

Examples:
-Catholic and Protestant (I think) split because the Protestants didn't want to bow down to an idol.
Honestly, how is that a huge deal? Either way, people argue about who's right anyway.

-Sunni and Shiite Muslims
Quick Quote below

The Sunni branch believes that the first four caliphs--Mohammed's successors--rightfully took his place as the leaders of Muslims. They recognize the heirs of the four caliphs as legitimate religious leaders. These heirs ruled continuously in the Arab world until the break-up of the Ottoman Empire following the end of the First World War.

Shiites, in contrast, believe that only the heirs of the fourth caliph, Ali, are the legitimate successors of Mohammed.

If essentially they believe the same thing, except who was the rightful leader in the past, why the hell should you kill each other?

I personally believe that organized religion causes more problems then it solves. It's caused death, war and arguments since it's first conception.

Mimz wrote I'm Agnostic. As someone else already said, I've explained it multiple times why and backed myself up. There simply isn't a point to repost everything, so here is a small bit of it.

-I believe that while there isn't enough evidence to support a god, there isn't enough evidence to disprove one either. Honestly, it's because of how God was created. A perfect being that is all knowing and can't be seen. It's just something that can never been proven wrong, until your dead. But at that point it really won't matter.

-To believe everything in this world happened of it's own accord is amazing. The universe is perfect, everything has it's place. It's plausible that some sort of intelligent being shaped the universe to become how it is, but it's just as plausible as just about every other possibility.

-I just believe that organized religion is horrible. I have no issue with people who want to believe that a god is real, but when you create groups of followers based on a small difference and tell each other you're wrong when your religion is practically the same, it's ignorance.

Examples:
-Catholic and Protestant (I think) split because the Protestants didn't want to bow down to an idol.
Honestly, how is that a huge deal? Either way, people argue about who's right anyway.

-Sunni and Shiite Muslims
Quick Quote below

The Sunni branch believes that the first four caliphs--Mohammed's successors--rightfully took his place as the leaders of Muslims. They recognize the heirs of the four caliphs as legitimate religious leaders. These heirs ruled continuously in the Arab world until the break-up of the Ottoman Empire following the end of the First World War.

Shiites, in contrast, believe that only the heirs of the fourth caliph, Ali, are the legitimate successors of Mohammed.

If essentially they believe the same thing, except who was the rightful leader in the past, why the hell should you kill each other?

I personally believe that organized religion causes more problems then it solves. It's caused death, war and arguments since it's first conception.

I agree, sometimes I wonder if I'm agnostic and not atheist.. I agree with everything you say, great post (:

I personally think religion was a tool to create conflict, and the trend caught on. I don't believe there is a divine being(s). I mean, as you eloquently put it; why would God create a world this dark? If God was all-loving, there wouldn't be a hell. Everyone would go to heaven.

Anyway, I think you can tell I'm atheist.

I Think religion is a load of nonsence but i hope there is a after life so i can see my dad again

Roux wrote I personally think religion was a tool to create conflict, and the trend caught on. I don't believe there is a divine being(s). I mean, as you eloquently put it; why would God create a world this dark? If God was all-loving, there wouldn't be a hell. Everyone would go to heaven.

Anyway, I think you can tell I'm atheist.

I know, but as others have suggested, God did apparently give us free will, for a reason, which is something to think about.