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Challenge for you folks.

Budget: $600 USD

Needs: Run games decent(ly) with availability to upgrade EVERYTHING

The computer I have is older than some of the registered users of this forum so anything you come up with will be an upgrade.

I won't be rendering videos or photos on this computer, it will be for casual gaming.

What I don't need:

    Keyboard
    Mouse
    Monitors
    Windows
    Accessories of any kind


What I do need:

    Case
    GPU
    CPU
    PCU
    Ram
    Storage
    Mobo


Thank you much, I'll give some money to whoever's build I end up going with. *if there's that many ppl that even post*

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I'm assuming you have at least a nice 1080p monitor.

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CPU: [ Register or Signin to view external links. ] ($157.49 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: [ Register or Signin to view external links. ] ($79.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: [ Register or Signin to view external links. ] ($65.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: [ Register or Signin to view external links. ] ($55.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: [ Register or Signin to view external links. ] ($44.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: [ Register or Signin to view external links. ] ($144.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Case: [ Register or Signin to view external links. ] ($36.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Power Supply: [ Register or Signin to view external links. ] ($26.98 @ Newegg)
Total: $613.41

Alternatively, you could save about $110 if you went with a Pentium G4560, and this motherboard/RAM;
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That will allow you to upgrade to an i5/i7 at any point if you wish. Or, you could grab a nice Z170/Z270 chipset motherboard with the Pentium, which would allow you to upgrade to an unlocked i5/i7 and overclock in the future. That said, an R5 1400 is already a better choice than a locked i5 anyway and gives you the option to upgrade to a 6 core or 8 core Ryzen chip in the future. Also, you can overclock the R5 1400 straight away if you wanted.

If you went with the G4560, I'd probably suggest spending more for a better GPU, but GPU pricing is super ridiculous right now so you'd have to find a used GTX 970 or GTX 980 for <$200 for that to make sense. Or if you could find a reasonably priced GTX 980Ti still, or even an R9 Fury. Otherwise, you'd be best sticking with the 1050Ti and you could spend some of the spare money on a nicer/better case, PSU, and/or larger/better SSD.
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13 wrote I'm assuming you have at least a nice 1080p monitor.

[ Register or Signin to view external links. ] / [ Register or Signin to view external links. ]

CPU: [ Register or Signin to view external links. ] ($157.49 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: [ Register or Signin to view external links. ] ($79.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: [ Register or Signin to view external links. ] ($65.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: [ Register or Signin to view external links. ] ($55.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: [ Register or Signin to view external links. ] ($44.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: [ Register or Signin to view external links. ] ($144.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Case: [ Register or Signin to view external links. ] ($36.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Power Supply: [ Register or Signin to view external links. ] ($26.98 @ Newegg)
Total: $613.41

Alternatively, you could save about $110 if you went with a Pentium G4560, and this motherboard/RAM;
[ Register or Signin to view external links. ]
[ Register or Signin to view external links. ]

That will allow you to upgrade to an i5/i7 at any point if you wish. Or, you could grab a nice Z170/Z270 chipset motherboard with the Pentium, which would allow you to upgrade to an unlocked i5/i7 and overclock in the future. That said, an R5 1400 is already a better choice than a locked i5 anyway and gives you the option to upgrade to a 6 core or 8 core Ryzen chip in the future. Also, you can overclock the R5 1400 straight away if you wanted.

If you went with the G4560, I'd probably suggest spending more for a better GPU, but GPU pricing is super ridiculous right now so you'd have to find a used GTX 970 or GTX 980 for <$200 for that to make sense. Or if you could find a reasonably priced GTX 980Ti still, or even an R9 Fury. Otherwise, you'd be best sticking with the 1050Ti and you could spend some of the spare money on a nicer/better case, PSU, and/or larger/better SSD.


What about swapping in this cpu: [ Register or Signin to view external links. ]
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Sundown wrote
13 wrote I'm assuming you have at least a nice 1080p monitor.

[ Register or Signin to view external links. ] / [ Register or Signin to view external links. ]

CPU: [ Register or Signin to view external links. ] ($157.49 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: [ Register or Signin to view external links. ] ($79.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: [ Register or Signin to view external links. ] ($65.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: [ Register or Signin to view external links. ] ($55.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: [ Register or Signin to view external links. ] ($44.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: [ Register or Signin to view external links. ] ($144.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Case: [ Register or Signin to view external links. ] ($36.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Power Supply: [ Register or Signin to view external links. ] ($26.98 @ Newegg)
Total: $613.41

Alternatively, you could save about $110 if you went with a Pentium G4560, and this motherboard/RAM;
[ Register or Signin to view external links. ]
[ Register or Signin to view external links. ]

That will allow you to upgrade to an i5/i7 at any point if you wish. Or, you could grab a nice Z170/Z270 chipset motherboard with the Pentium, which would allow you to upgrade to an unlocked i5/i7 and overclock in the future. That said, an R5 1400 is already a better choice than a locked i5 anyway and gives you the option to upgrade to a 6 core or 8 core Ryzen chip in the future. Also, you can overclock the R5 1400 straight away if you wanted.

If you went with the G4560, I'd probably suggest spending more for a better GPU, but GPU pricing is super ridiculous right now so you'd have to find a used GTX 970 or GTX 980 for <$200 for that to make sense. Or if you could find a reasonably priced GTX 980Ti still, or even an R9 Fury. Otherwise, you'd be best sticking with the 1050Ti and you could spend some of the spare money on a nicer/better case, PSU, and/or larger/better SSD.


What about swapping in this cpu: [ Register or Signin to view external links. ]


Outdated socket, and you would have no upgrade path in terms of CPU/RAM and GPU in some cases without a bottleneck.
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Sundown wrote
13 wrote I'm assuming you have at least a nice 1080p monitor.

[ Register or Signin to view external links. ] / [ Register or Signin to view external links. ]

CPU: [ Register or Signin to view external links. ] ($157.49 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: [ Register or Signin to view external links. ] ($79.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: [ Register or Signin to view external links. ] ($65.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: [ Register or Signin to view external links. ] ($55.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: [ Register or Signin to view external links. ] ($44.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: [ Register or Signin to view external links. ] ($144.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Case: [ Register or Signin to view external links. ] ($36.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Power Supply: [ Register or Signin to view external links. ] ($26.98 @ Newegg)
Total: $613.41

Alternatively, you could save about $110 if you went with a Pentium G4560, and this motherboard/RAM;
[ Register or Signin to view external links. ]
[ Register or Signin to view external links. ]

That will allow you to upgrade to an i5/i7 at any point if you wish. Or, you could grab a nice Z170/Z270 chipset motherboard with the Pentium, which would allow you to upgrade to an unlocked i5/i7 and overclock in the future. That said, an R5 1400 is already a better choice than a locked i5 anyway and gives you the option to upgrade to a 6 core or 8 core Ryzen chip in the future. Also, you can overclock the R5 1400 straight away if you wanted.

If you went with the G4560, I'd probably suggest spending more for a better GPU, but GPU pricing is super ridiculous right now so you'd have to find a used GTX 970 or GTX 980 for <$200 for that to make sense. Or if you could find a reasonably priced GTX 980Ti still, or even an R9 Fury. Otherwise, you'd be best sticking with the 1050Ti and you could spend some of the spare money on a nicer/better case, PSU, and/or larger/better SSD.


What about swapping in this cpu: [ Register or Signin to view external links. ]


You would need to change the motherboard and RAM as well since the FX is an AM3+ socket which doesn't support DDR4 RAM and Ryzen is an AM4 socket which does support DDR4 RAM. On top of that, the Ryzen 5 1400 has faster overall single core and multicore clock speeds; it's also takes much less of a power draw to power it. Yes the FX-8350 is an 8 core @ 4.0 GHz, but unless you're an editing junky, you won't be using all 8 cores in gaming. Hell I don't even use all 6 cores on my i7-5820k and I doubt I'll be using all cores on Threadripper or the i9 CPUs. Ryzen also shines with the increased memory speed.
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TaigaAisaka wrote Yes the FX-8350 is an 8 core @ 4.0 GHz, but unless you're an editing junky, you won't be using all 8 cores in gaming.

Adding on to this, the FX-8350 isn't really technically an 8 core because of the way the chip is made. It's not a 4 core like some people say, but it's not really 8 core either, it's sort of somewhere in between, and it has horrible IPC. So, Ryzen 5 1400 is significantly better in single core performance. Also, the R5 1400 will beat the FX-8350 in multithreaded situations as well anyway thanks to the fact it's significantly newer, better, and has 8 threads.

So yeah, just avoid AM3+ and the FX-8350 like the plague
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TaigaAisaka wrote Yes the FX-8350 is an 8 core @ 4.0 GHz, but unless you're an editing junky, you won't be using all 8 cores in gaming.

Adding on to this, the FX-8350 isn't really technically an 8 core because of the way the chip is made. It's not a 4 core like some people say, but it's not really 8 core either, it's sort of somewhere in between, and it has horrible IPC. So, Ryzen 5 1400 is significantly better in single core performance. Also, the R5 1400 will beat the FX-8350 in multithreaded situations as well anyway thanks to the fact it's significantly newer, better, and has 8 threads.

So yeah, just avoid AM3+ and the FX-8350 like the plague


I ended up buying everything in that first build except I changed the case.
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In my opinion, a budget like this wouldn't be reasonable to add an SSD on to.

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CPU: [ Register or Signin to view external links. ] ($156.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: [ Register or Signin to view external links. ] ($76.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: [ Register or Signin to view external links. ] ($65.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: [ Register or Signin to view external links. ] ($47.88 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: [ Register or Signin to view external links. ] ($159.99 @ B&H)
Case: [ Register or Signin to view external links. ] ($39.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Power Supply: [ Register or Signin to view external links. ] ($56.89 @ Newegg)
Total: $604.72
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
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XepherTheCat wrote In my opinion, a budget like this wouldn't be reasonable to add an SSD on to.

[ Register or Signin to view external links. ] / [ Register or Signin to view external links. ]

CPU: [ Register or Signin to view external links. ] ($156.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: [ Register or Signin to view external links. ] ($76.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: [ Register or Signin to view external links. ] ($65.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: [ Register or Signin to view external links. ] ($47.88 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: [ Register or Signin to view external links. ] ($159.99 @ B&H)
Case: [ Register or Signin to view external links. ] ($39.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Power Supply: [ Register or Signin to view external links. ] ($56.89 @ Newegg)
Total: $604.72
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
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Every budget regardless it be ~350-400 deserves an SSD. You chose a more expensive PSU rather then upgrading the HDD, which made zero sense IF you weren't getting an ssd IMO.
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XepherTheCat wrote In my opinion, a budget like this wouldn't be reasonable to add an SSD on to.

[ Register or Signin to view external links. ] / [ Register or Signin to view external links. ]

CPU: [ Register or Signin to view external links. ] ($156.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: [ Register or Signin to view external links. ] ($76.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: [ Register or Signin to view external links. ] ($65.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: [ Register or Signin to view external links. ] ($47.88 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: [ Register or Signin to view external links. ] ($159.99 @ B&H)
Case: [ Register or Signin to view external links. ] ($39.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Power Supply: [ Register or Signin to view external links. ] ($56.89 @ Newegg)
Total: $604.72
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
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Every budget regardless it be ~350-400 deserves an SSD. You chose a more expensive PSU rather then upgrading the HDD, which made zero sense IF you weren't getting an ssd IMO.


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You can replace that PSU with this I suppose. But the 550W gives more opportunity to upgrade, if you're looking into a GTX 1070/1080 or RX580. 430W would be cutting it close if you were to upgrade to mentioned GPUs.

PSU can be carried over when upgrading. It's a quality power supply and it's rather cheap at this time.
Any build deserves an SSD, but it's not reasonable to add an SSD on lower budget, because that also means you'll have to cut corners with other components which affects OVERALL performance, computing, gaming, everything.

A PSU is something that you should NOT cheap out on, on any circumstance. You always want to get what you can for the money.
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